Re: Oh woe is me..
Posted by Orpheus on
Tue Oct 5th 2004 at 7:26pm
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i flashed the bios on my old P3 500.. the flash failed..\
pc refuses to boot now.. anyone know a fix, or a way to use the backup it created beforehand?
Re: Oh woe is me..
Posted by Crono on
Tue Oct 5th 2004 at 7:46pm
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Did you remember to put the jumper back to the original position?
Because all you do with a "flash" is short out the jumper making BIOS loose all its previous information.
If you did that ... and it doesn't boot (as in everything is plugged in and you press the button and it does absolutly nothing). Then many things could be wrong: Fried Board, Fried CPU, Funked Up BIOS, etc, etc.
Re: Oh woe is me..
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Tue Oct 5th 2004 at 7:53pm
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You tried removing the cmos battery for a while then resitting it?
Re: Oh woe is me..
Posted by Forceflow on
Tue Oct 5th 2004 at 7:54pm
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start by disconnecting all secondary HD's and your floppy/disk drives. Try to boot with the essential stuff only.
Re: Oh woe is me..
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Tue Oct 5th 2004 at 8:51pm
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If the bios chip is flashable and it failed, you need a new bios chip, because bios is trashed now you cant turn it on and fix it. Contact the makers and they will replac it.
Re: Oh woe is me..
Posted by Orpheus on
Tue Oct 5th 2004 at 9:05pm
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it was a windows flash utility recommended by gigabyte..
the only reason i attempted was, the bios couldn't use hard drives over 20gigs.. i had a 40 in it, but it said 20 :sad:
the parts are fine crono, its the bios chip itself thats borked..
sadly, it was a fine machine, clean.. i reckon i will put another mobo in the case..
thanx guys.
Re: Oh woe is me..
Posted by Crono on
Tue Oct 5th 2004 at 9:09pm
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so wait wait, if you did a software flash, try doing a jumper flash. that will reset the bios to its defaults.
It will probably restore it to its original state. As for HDD support, there could be a multitude of reasons why it wont support that high, and I guarentee you it isn't going to be " The setting just doesn't get set high enough", there's a reason past that.
Oh, and never install 3rd party crap for your mother board ... it rarely works out well. Unless, the company who made your board is Gigabyte ... in which case they have crappy utilities (obviously).
Re: Oh woe is me..
Posted by Orpheus on
Tue Oct 5th 2004 at 9:11pm
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1st thing i did, after the failed bootup was, remove the battery.. no good.. the bios chip is borked..
the new bios would have supported 75 gig drives..
Re: Oh woe is me..
Posted by Crono on
Tue Oct 5th 2004 at 9:16pm
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I didn't say remove the CMOS battery. I said short the jumpers, look in the boards book it'll tell you how. Not to mention, if you gave your model and such I could probably find a troubleshooter.
So, what you did was try to install a new BIOS version? (this isn't what you said earlier)
Re: Oh woe is me..
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Just partition the drive into two 20 gig ones... I think.
Anyway, if you know somebody with an EEPROM programmer, they should be able to sort you out. I have access to one, but I'm not really local. I guess the best idea is do what somebody else said and contact the manufacturer - they will almost certainly have some spare ones kicking around.
Re: Oh woe is me..
Posted by Crono on
Wed Oct 6th 2004 at 1:38am
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Orph, that's like saying, "What's the difference between changing all the radio stations in my car and buying a new radio for my car".
Re: Oh woe is me..
Posted by gimpinthesink on
Wed Oct 6th 2004 at 9:50am
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Removing the battery dont always work cos on my old packard bell (I
stupidly put a password on it and forgot it) I removed the battery for
about 3 hours and it didnt reset it but when i switched the jumper
settings that actually reset the bios so i could get in and change it.
and I have learnt dont put a password on the bios. and I never reomve the battery now I just switch the jumper settings
Re: Oh woe is me..
Posted by fishy on
Wed Oct 6th 2004 at 1:51pm
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not passwording your BIOS can have consequencies just as disasterous, depending on who can access your machine.
Re: Oh woe is me..
Posted by Dred_furst on
Wed Oct 6th 2004 at 5:38pm
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very true, password'd bios's are silly and unnessesary at home. May be required at LAN partys (public) if there has been a warning, and definatly at schools. peeps try to mess with them, and fail.
Re: Oh woe is me..
Posted by Crono on
Wed Oct 6th 2004 at 5:41pm
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Well, the only problem with that is, you'll most likely be getting up and down from your computer at a LAN, meaning, it'll be on. In that case an OS password would be best as well. I mean you can easily sleep it or something as such in which is would wake up in a matter of seconds.
The only way BIOS password would work there is if you hibernated the computer whenever you stood up.
It'd be much easier to just log out of your workstation.
Re: Oh woe is me..
Posted by scary_jeff on
Wed Oct 6th 2004 at 6:02pm
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Also BIOS often seems to have a default password or some keys you can hold down to bypass it...