UK members: spare PC parts

now, with the onset of HL2 there is going to be a s**tload of older, but still great parts lying around..

i call on each of you to post your spare parts, AND a price if you need to have one, and allow your fellow members to upgrade at a reasonable price .

for some of us, upgrading is a chore..

all parts.. from MOBO's to RAM..

list them, and share..

i am sure you guys can work out the postage..

THIS IDEA CAN WORK FOR USA RESIDENTS AS WELL!

i think most of the UK folks will probably get christmas gifts from mums and dads, sadly, so the situation is kind of moot.

all my spare parts coming from this machine are reserved already as well :smile:

if its like around here, people hoard their older parts with some scheme of making a bundle off them, but all they do is end up with a drawer, or closet full of junk.

i don't know how many times i heard "But i paid 1,200 bucks for that thing in there" and all i can say is "but its 4 years old" and shake my head as they close the door again..

i can never convince them that PC's don't appreciate very often :sad:

Just gave away my P4 parts to my sister, so nothing from me, sorry :sad:

sisters qualify though.. at least they are not stashed away on some dream idea..

my first pc's i build are going to nieces and nephews.. all without computers of any kind..

I have a GeForce 4 Ti4600 if anyone wants to make a reasonable offer...

sorry mate nothing from me. gimps just taken up my gfx card offer (5700le) so hel be getting that

I'm using my old PC for HTPC/router duties, and the PC before that is a P2 350 with no RAM...

whispers to everyone who will listen

i was hoping, the people with more money than good sense, would make up for it in this thread :heee:

i have seen some monster PIV's and AMD64's listed.. right here this week.. those members might have some spare smaller PIV's and AMD stuff ..

sell it if you must, but offer it to the pit members first.. afterall, its not top dollar your after, or more likely gonna get i meant :smile:

I'm afraid I've got plans for my spare parts (possibly for routing like
jeff, possibly for networked compiles), and the only parts I really
wouldn't need would be a P2 300 with 256mb of SDRAM. My parents have
upgraded recently and have a spare Duron 800 with 512mb of DDR I think,
but I doubt they would want to get rid of it as they like the idea of
having a spare. Not much of a gaming rig anyway I guess :sad:

Nice idea, but I'm not too sure there will be too much stuff going around.

I went from a 566 which is now being used for something else, to what I have now. I do have a TNT 16 meg spare, but since that's about the slowest AGP card you can get, I can't see anybody wanting to upgrade to a TNT.

sighs

video cards? a video card might help someone.

i have seen a few monster cards bought recently..

anyways, the fact that you guys offer, is nice.. it makes you think about it.. you know :smile:

I have a GeForce 4 Ti4600 if anyone wants to make a reasonable offer...

A price? (including resident mainland UK shipping)

AGP bandwidth? (2/4/8)

Ram? (64/128/256 - DDR / SDR)

4 x AGP
128MB RAM (I don't remember what sort)

Tis a Creative card though if that helps :smile:

Price is open to 'reasonable' offers, bearing in mind I have an offer from a friend for ?50 (though i'm fed up of waiting for him to raise the cash!)

i just rememberd i got a 1.2 athlon if anyone wants it all they have to do is pay for delivery then you got it

I got basically nout. Only stuff like a modem or a ubs 4 port card.

just decided carrage is free on this processer to anyone with a good home for it

might even throw in a motherboard in with it (kt4v)

What type of memory does it take?

I gave my old crap(pier) computer to my older brother. Expert in computers that he is, my brother "removed the battery to erase the memory and other things" and for some reason everything seems to be dead now. Moral of the story...I didn't need it anyway, HE can dump it.

Anyways, considering I'm using a god aweful Windows98 64mb RAM cardboard edition computer, it would be useless to anyone this side of the third world. I won't be upgrading I'll be buying a whole new one, since even the monitor is screwy (it flickers pink 24/7 so im guessing its had its day). Anyone know of any UK(NI) charities, schools that could put it to good use? It IS a damn shame, when people throw bits of their computers when something faster comes along (which is every week) and Orpheus is definatley on to something.

scary_jeff said:
What type of memory does it take?

ddr (333 max)

scary_jeff said:
What type of memory does it take?

perhaps this might help..

there seem to be 2 boards, the kt4v and kt4v-L

seems like a nice board though.

the difference seems to be one has lan, one doesn't shrugs

Orpheus said:

scary_jeff said:
What type of memory does it take?

perhaps this might help..

there seem to be 2 boards, the kt4v and kt4v-L

seems like a nice board though.

the difference seems to be one has lan, one doesn't shrugs

sorry about that its the -l version (onboard lan)

i've been wondering, whats with this new type of super PCI video slot the newest boards seem to be coming out with?

i can't see any PCI slot working as good as an AGP.. no matter how fast.

has anyone heard about them yet?

PCI express has a far higher bandwidth than AGP. It's a new technology. It's no faster right now, because no graphics card actually needs all the extra bandwidth yet.

scary_jeff said:
PCI express has a far higher bandwidth than AGP. It's a new technology. It's no faster right now, because no graphics card actually needs all the extra bandwidth yet.

sounds deadend to me though, AGP was designed to utilize only graphics, PCI is to universal.. personally, i cannot fathom a motherboard manufacturer even producing a motherboard without an AGP slot..in fact i have seen boards dummied down to not include them, in spite of the obvious location it should have been in.

agp cards and pci cards cost about the same with so nothing to gain by going pci.

perhaps, the term PCI is deceiving me into thinking its just another PCI slot or gimmick

Normally the bandwidth between the slots is shared out unevenly between
the slots of PCI express mobo's (or so it seemed from something I
read). For instance, there might be a 16x PCI slot for the graphics
card, and 4 1x PCI slots for the sound cards, etc... With the new SLI
dual graphics card mobo's that are appearing, it might be split 8x PCI
for graphics card 1, 8x for graphics card 2, and 3 1x PCI slots for the
other cards.

Orph, the actual form factor of the slots is of little consequence -
AGP or PCI really doesn't matter provided the right amount of data can
be sent at once. I'd guess PCI was never really developed as the only
thing that needed extra bandwidth was the graphics card, so they
furthered AGP slots for that purpose from 1x up to the modern 8x. Now
it makes sense to provide added bandwidth potential for any components,
and PCI-E now provides an amount of bandwidth that surpasses AGP.

Motherboards still have one slot that is used for graphics cards over
other components, so I don't see what difference it really makes.

so what you guys are telling me is, had the set the motherboard or bios, so that you could adjust the bandwidth of a certain PCI slot, then a PCI video card would work as well as an AGP slotted card?

that makes no damned sense, if you can alter the frequency of a microprocessor with a jumper block, why couldn't they do it with pci slots? in fact, why did they do it with AGP slots? i know that my bios has to be set for 4X cards someplace in the bios, cause i had to switch it from PCI to AGP when i got the board..

sounds like a bunch of crap to me.. you know, like they did years ago when they deliberately dummied down the DX33 chip to an SX33.. they actually spent more money on a chip, to sell the PC's for less money

I don't get what is complicated in this matter. There is a new
interface called PCI-Express that is, I assume, a development on PCI
slots. Its faster than AGP slots, therefore it makes sense to make
graphic cards that use it as it allows faster communication with the
rest of the computer.

Orph, just take PCi-X as something that is not related in any way whatsoever to PCI. It's not a 'jumped up PCI', it's not 'PCI version 2', it's not just marketing. Let's take a look at a brief 'slot' timeline:

ISA
PCI
AGP

Now, you can know that each of these are faster than the previous, yes? Now if I add PCI-X to the list, if you know that it is nothing to do with the original PCI, where's the problem?

i am not doubting you two, but have neither of you read that PCGamer article i offered you?? the guy was specifically asked, which would run HL2 better, the AGP cards or the PCI express.. he more less said, "yeah right :rolleyes: " when the guy asked him if the 256 PCI express would run it better..

thats why i was confused.. i didn't say that the new PCI slot wasn't faster than the old ones..

remind yourselves, i am still in my infancy about PC workings.. hell i am repairing pre 1998 models.. damed few of them even have AGP slots :sad: .

perhaps i read it incorrectly :sad:

It doesn't make a difference because no graphics card actually needs the extra bandwidth yet. But in the future, as graphics cards get faster, they will need more bandwidth than is possible using AGP. PCI express means that when these graphics cards come along, people have systems that are able to use the to their maximum potential. If you wait until the graphics cards that need the bandwidth are out, then the only people who you can sell these graphics cards are people who just bought a new PC, and at any one time, that isn't very many people.

scary_jeff said:
It doesn't make a difference because no graphics card actually needs the extra bandwidth yet. But in the future, as graphics cards get faster, they will need more bandwidth than is possible using AGP. PCI express means that when these graphics cards come along, people have systems that are able to use the to their maximum potential. If you wait until the graphics cards that need the bandwidth are out, then the only people who you can sell these graphics cards are people who just bought a new PC, and at any one time, that isn't very many people.

so, i assume it would behoove me to look toward a mobo with this ability..

thanx guys.. i wasn't arguing, i was completely in the dark..