Karen O.

I'll agree that arguing about what category a group fits in is rather pointless as it is all subjective. I go less by lyrics and more by sound when making those judgements, and under those circumstances I would put Offspring closer to Pennywise than New Found Glory, but to each their own. I'm not going to really defend a band that isn't in my top three favorites :biggrin:

Yak_Fighter said:
I'm not going to really defend a band that isn't in my top three favorites :biggrin:

AbbA
Donna Summers
Chic?

/runs but cannot seem to out distance approaching projectiles.

Oh Orph, you couldn't be farther from the truth.

1. Rammstein
2. Nine Inch Nails
3. Fear Factory

Offspring certainly WEREN'T pop-punk, however I'd say since perhaps Americana, they have certainly been sliding toward this genre. Its not fair to say they are a pop-punk band in essence as there sound hasn't changed that drastically since Ignition (ignoring the rather unimpressive first album), but the fact that they are a punk band, that from Americana onwards, have proven quite popular, could be reason to call them pop-punk.

I do have to admit, genres seem rather pointless now. I remember NME dubbed a band "screamcore". What the hell is screamcore? Though then again, it does make it easier to tell people what type of music I'm into when they ask. But then they give me an odd look, so I give examples, and then they start to slowly back away from me.

My tastes could be categorized as:

Death-Folk-hip-hopped-grunge-parlor-ska-trance

Pretty much anything buy Yanni.

Its easier to put things into genres of
"I like it"
"I like some of their stuff"
"I like and bits and bobs" and
"I hate them and wish to burn their guitars and drive nails through the hearts"

Not a big fan of the YYY's myself, there was a good song on John Peel before they got all the hooha about them, havent the foggiest what it was called though :razz:

i shall now return to various obscure bands and hits from the 80s and continue my music snobbery :razz:

LOL, sounds good to me.

ReNo said:
Nobody seems to mate, its just young kids that hear and like a song, and can only afford a single with their pocket money..

Have you seen the cost of a single? Ever? They were always like $4 a cassette, $7 a CD-single. That's about half the price of a full album. Until a year ago, when legal music downloads became available, it was horribly pricy to buy a single. Now, the going rate online seems to be 99 cents, which is a reasonable price for just one song.

The only people who bought singles were die-hard collectors that needed that obscure b-side for completeness.

Edit: Hmm, seems nearly all of this was said right after ReNo said his thing. Frankly, reading through the thread, this grabbed me so much I felt obliged to respond before reading further.

So, um, The Offspring. As the proud owner of Ignition and Smash, and the shamed owner of Americana, I gotta say they really did hit a slide where they stopped putting emotion and though into lyrics and instead headed towards (not-so) witty jokes and stupid sound effects to match. "Why Don't You Get a Job"'s success as a single solidified the approach to their terrible follow-up, Conspiracy of One. "Hit That" seemed just as bad. I would be extremely leery of purchasing an album by The Offspring again. Oh, and for graphic earlier work, you can't really match "Beheaded."

As to explicit lyrics stickers, a lot of the time they really seem to be about image. It's trendy to have one. I own somewhere nearing 80 CD's and only two have explicit lyrics stickers: Songs for the Deaf and Judas O. Judas O. is the B-Sides CD that comes with Rotten Apples, the Smashing Pumpkins greatest hits album. Songs for the Deaf, so far as I can understand the lyrics so far, has the outburst during "Six Shooter" and a fairly pervasive degree of sexual imagery, but it's hardly a swear-fest. Marginally adult. Judas O. contains the f-bomb about three times over the course of an 80-minute disk, some drug references, a song about infidelity and a song about date-rape. Frankly, I'm exceedingly surprised it received an explicit lyrics sticker, far more graphic content on the last two subjects is allowed in government sponsored Public Service Annoncements and that's far from an over-use of the f-bomb, especially in lieu of any other cursewords.

Anyway, what I'm really saying is that there's no need for something to be labeled Explicit Lyrics to be dark, serious and adult. Alice in Chains managed to never release an album with an Explicit Lyrics sticker, and frankly, I haven't seen anyone talk about heroin more than them.

Got offsprings 2 latest albums, rockin absolutely, but their ealier stuff is like meh

Orpheus said:

Vash said:
Offspring rocks you.

hmmm, the process of creating offspring rocks for sure.

Straight over teh tops of everyones heads...or is every one actually focusing on topic

Well I know the only time I ever bought singles, was when I was young, and its what I could afford with my pocket money. Albums I would buy on rare occasions, when I had saved a couple of weeks worth or whatever, or I would get them for Christmas or birthdays. I've not bought a single since I've had a CD player, as by that point I found it much more worthwhile to splash out a little more and buy the album.

Judas O.

Isn't it "Judas 0." (zero)? I've seen it called both, but to me, the slash through the 0 makes me think that...

And, coincidentally enough, the only singles I've ever bought have been Smashing Pumpkins ones, just because I'm a spaz/

The last album I bought was Millen Collin and the infinite sadness :smile:

Torch the Moon by The Whitlams.

Mellon Collie, you fool! It's a homonym for melancholy.

Last album I bought was Thievery Corporation's The Mirror Conspiracy.

The Shape of Punk to Come: A Chimerical Bombination in 12 Bursts, by Refused. Punk, Hardcore, Jazz, Blues, and Swedish folk, all in one very loud package.

The Thrills - So much for the city, and looking back on it, it wasn't owrth buying.