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isn't this along the same lines of "if someone farts in the woods and no one is there to smell it, did it have an odor?" or was it trees i can never get that one right..

Sort of. The difference is that Schrodinger's Cat and the coin toss examples are linked to totaly random events. The whole "if a tree falls in a forest..." train of though doesn't count because nowhere is there random chance involved. You have stated that the tree falls, the direct physical outcome is a sound, and there is no way around it. The example doesn't hold up. There is no "superposition". Then again, I don't know much about the physics of farts... maybe that one works :biggrin:

Schrodinger's cat is more linked into the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics, which is about how it's meant to be our consciousness which determines reality, and how it has to be us (as observers) which decide if the cat if dead or not. It's sort of the same as that analogy, in that they're both saying that a person has to be there for there for either to exist... though I think Schrodinger's cat is large enough for spontaneous quantum reduction to occur, i.e. it doesn't actually happen in real life :razz:

Schrodinger's cat is more linked into the Copenhagen
interpretation of quantum mechanics, which is about how it's meant to
be our consciousness which determines reality, and how it has to be us
(as observers) which decide if the cat if dead or not. It's sort of the
same as that analogy, in that they're both saying that a person has to
be there for there for either to exist... though I think Schrodinger's
cat is large enough for spontaneous quantum reduction to occur, i.e. it
doesn't actually happen in real life :razz:

What he said.

Gwil said:
What he said.

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Leperous said:
though I think Schrodinger's cat is large enough for spontaneous quantum reduction to occur, i.e. it doesn't actually happen in real life :razz:

Obveously.

lol, we're sure offtopic now ^_^. But these bizarre things are kinda interesting, even though I dont understand a thing :biggrin:

http://www.phobe.com/s_cat/s_cat.html

tries to find a cat smiley

a monkey'll do

contrary to what i may lead you to believe, the cat lives/dies theory is not unheard of to me.. i just found it only vaguely interesting when i heard it as a boy, and even less now.. i would be far more inclined to discuss the "if a tree fell" theory, or even the "do bears s**t in the woods" one.

even as a child, it disturbed me deeply to contemplate any theory where something had to die to prove it out.. it reminded me of a discussion we had in high school.. the topic was, "if you knew someone was going to commit suicide, what would you do to prevent it?" sadly i came to the conclusion that, those who want to.. succeed, those who don't succeed, only wanted attention.. IMO, if you could convince someone just how long dead lasts, that would be deterrent enough to save any worth saving..

as i said, i hated theories that involved killing something :sad:

The cat living or dying has nothing to do with the theory. It's just one example of it. Thats like saying you hate the theory of gravity because if someone jumped off a building they would accelerate downwards to their death.

mazemaster said:
The cat living or dying has nothing to do with the theory. It's just one example of it. Thats like saying you hate the theory of gravity because if someone jumped off a building they would accelerate downwards to their death.

people have jumped without dying maze..

if i misinterpreted the concept, its only because it has no interest for me to do otherwise..

wouldn't be the first time, sadly i feel it won't be the last.

i apologize to anyone who understands the theory and me ruining it for them :/

Orpheus said:

mazemaster said:
The cat living or dying has nothing to do with the theory. It's just one example of it. Thats like saying you hate the theory of gravity because if someone jumped off a building they would accelerate downwards to their death.

people have jumped without dying maze..

That's what they want you to believe. They being the pro-business bulldogs of the evil corporate American empire, of course. I mean, who else would it be, the... anti-antacid cohorts of wholesome female booty?!?! Of course not! So let's be serious.

And that just about sums up this thread to my mind, most likely because I am a... erm... intellectual inferiorite.

i think, one of us needs a lobotomy hugh :biggrin:

you make me laugh so hard sometimes

let's get back on topic ... anybody in for a training/war this weekend ? My trigger finger is getting itchy !

Sounds fun to me.

Ok then, we'll do the same times/days as I worked out before, its now just a matter of picking a server. G.Ballblue had a good idea of picking an empty server, if someone could suggest one, as I don't have a clue when it comes to Europe/US servers.

We'll just find one when we've gathered up in the snarkpit channel. What day and time (GMT) would suit you guys best ?

It's already done. Of course if this doesn't suit a lot of people, we can work something else out.

Agent Smith said:
Ok, I've done some rough calculations, and assuming we're going to play on the weekend, that being friday night/saturday/sunday, If the people in the US start playing at around 3pm on saturday (GMT -8.00), the people in Europe play at around 11pm on saturday (GMT), and the people in Australia play at around 9am on sunday (GMT +10.00), we should all be on at the same time. :biggrin:

I'm willing to get up at 9am on sunday to try this out. I don't know how this works for everyone else.

It might benefit more people to push the time onward an hour or so. I
can't remember exactly but I think its just me and Gwil from the UK at
the last list, and I think we would probably prefer something like 1am
to 11pm on a saturday night. It would also be good for the Australian's
having a bit of a lie in, and 3pm or 5pm makes little difference I'd
think to the US folks.

Who else is going to be playing CS:S from tonight though?

Thats fine me with Reno, I wasn't sure how late you or Gwil be willing to do this. It suits me fine.

I'd love to be playing CS: Source tonight, but unfortanetly my copy of CS: CZ is about 8 months late, courtesy of Vivendi.

I'd also love to be playing CS:S tonight, but my old old PC just wouldn't have it. Haven't played a new game for years :biggrin:

But yeah, I can do 11pm right up to about 3am (finish at that time, not
start!). Whatever floats other peoples boat, just gotta wait for ding
to sort it now :smile:

Me can't do CS: S since I didn't purchase through steam :\ :insertmajorsuperlongsadfacehere: I also can't do anything like 11 P.M. (U.S. time) until Friday-- my parents don't want me up any later then about 9:30 on school nights. Go me.

i wouldnt worry about it ballblue, you are only a wee nipper. theres
nothing cool about staying up til the small hours, yknow :smile: they have
your best interests at heart! and all that cliched rubbish :razz:

bla bla bla, bla bla bla
i want a half-life team :razz: - no one plays half-life now..
or TFC team....

Yeah ... don't get used to staying up until 4am, then schedule classes for 9am when the campus is 30 miles away.

Uh, don't tell me about it. I'm up to 1:30 am most mornings cooking my eyeballs either working on uni assignments or playing dod online .

Broadband, so good, yet so evil. :biggrin:

You ... have time .... for dod??

Lucky, man.

30 miles? I thought you went to PSU, Crono?

I do, but I live in hillsboro. Sorry, 15 miles away ... 30 round trip.

Well good lord. On 26 it might as well be fifty miles for the ammount of time that commute takes

Forceflow said:
We'll just find one when we've gathered up in the snarkpit channel. What day and time (GMT) would suit you guys best ?

Whats this snarkpit channel your talking about Forceflow?

Its the IRC channel - #snarkpit on Quakenet :smile:

So we are meeting in irc at about 1am GMT then? I'll be waiting then.

Well good lord. On 26 it might as well be fifty miles for the ammount of time that commute takes

Kind of, I have found ways, my friend. It takes me MAXIMUM 30 minutes to get to Portland in heavy traffic.

Impressive. I used to commute from Tigard to Rock Creek, and that took anywhere from 30 min to an hour.

That's because of 217 and 185th (Or you could say inadvertently I5). To be honest, if you come up from that way you should take 217 to 26, then get off at Bethany (go right) and take it all the way up to Springville take a left and Rock Creek is on your right hand side. WAY faster then 185th.

Not that you need that information now or anything, since you have your degree.

Everyone calls me lucky that I get the kind of commute I get, but even with heavy traffic, it's better then not being able to sit down on the MAX after walking 10 blocks in the rain at 9pm.

I think the thing that REALLY sucks is if I have a class at Sylvania campus. Not only do I have to take 2 long ass free ways, but there's no where to park when I get there. I mean, s**t, I might as well just keep going another 10 miles or so and goto Fry's ... get me some cheap CD-Rs.

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Sorry for the late reply. I have to work at my primary gaming team called "desire" because we are going to re-activate the entire clan because it was inactive for a long time. - we are going to have servers, too where I can get RCON. - We may use it for TSP I think.

Thanks - Ding

So are we playing today? It's about the time we organised, so how about anyone who wants to play gets themselves into IRC.

Crono said:
That's because of 217 and 185th (Or you could say inadvertently I5). To be honest, if you come up from that way you should take 217 to 26, then get off at Bethany (go right) and take it all the way up to Springville take a left and Rock Creek is on your right hand side. WAY faster then 185th.

That is the exact route I took. most of the delay would occur at the 217/26 interchange. Never could find a way around all that.

Everything about Sylvania blows. There's pretty much nothing else to be said.

I completely forgot about the game yesterday. My brother was visiting, so I had to be sociable.

No worries, I had my mum's birthday anyway. I checked and it seemed that no one turned up :arse: .

YAY... finally...

Finally I have a decent connection... finally

thx god..

now.. What have happened to Team Snarkpit?

Errr nothing, but I still use the snarkpit tag online.

So, is the team playing at all?

well, i should be getting a new pc after exams, and we're getting brodband just before christmas, so i'd be happy to show my '1337' gaming skills to you, anyway, i'm bored as hel over here in tassie.

Errr nothing, but I still use the snarkpit tag online.

same ... whenever people ask me what snarkpit is, I send them to the site.

We'll see about actually playing as a clan when HL2 is out.

well, why stop there? we could play cs, war3, the possobilities are endless!