A few question if you will.

In my excitement to write my tutorial today, I still seem to have created a small undercurrent of discontent. I promise you, that was not my intention at all.

i have 3 questions.

1) do we really need a tutorial on how to press F5?
2) should I be the one to write one, as a companion to my tutorial?
3) would someone else volunteer to write a companion tutorial?

Until this year, I never even considered that a tutorial such as mine was even necessary. It has never been a real issue before. I guess it sort of stands to reason since we really never had games with this level of image generation. Sadly it became an issue note worthy enough to warrant it. Now however it seems instead of resolving the problem, it opened yet another. Hence my 3 questions.

This is a serious topic, and one I find very important. Please keep your replies on topic, even the ones where you tell me to shut up.

be good.

What's F5 do?

Sloth, default screenshot button.

1) It's F9 here. And No.
2) No
3) Probably not, because it isn't needed

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<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting $loth</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>What's F5 do?
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its the default screen capture key.. it is editable of course hence crono's different one.

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<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting Crono</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>Sloth, default screenshot button.

1) It's F9 here. And No.
2) No
3) Probably not, because it isn't needed </DIV></DIV>
then go rate mine, that 1 is burning my butt. it took me well over an hour to write that thing, it deserves a 2 minimum :biggrin:

you should be functionally illiterate and attempt to write a tutorial.. apparently my grammar SUCKS!

I think the tutorial title is just misleading as to the content of the
tutorial - change it to "Optimising screenshots" and nobody will
complain. And the people who need to read it, won't bother.

The tutorial is fine, the problem is that most people who post large
image sizes don't do so out of ignorance that they can avoid it, but
out of laziness. Its easy for somebody with broadband to hit F5 a few
times and upload the results straight to a website. This tutorial won't
make those people change their ways. Its possible however, that a
decent tutorial on making nice screenshots, which ALSO discusses
optimising them, might help.

I could do the whole explanation about the Jpeg thing again, orph. Feel free to use it if you write the tut.

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<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting ReNo</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext> </DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext> And the people who need to read it, won't bother.

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the people who need to, won't read it no matter how well its written or worded duncan. thats the sad fact. why should i re-word it for a group of individuals whom would not consider it a topic worthy of reading?

my hopes, there are a few people who truly do not mean to be offensive and will enjoy it as is.
i do appreciate your concern over the title, but i truly don't think it would matter one way or another.

oh, I thought you were talking of using F5 in hammer for some stranger reason :S

I figure it was worth doing simply because from now on you can just post a link to it when someone comes in with massive screens. It gets the point across without being inflammatory.

And no, I don't think there ought to be a tut on how to take screen captures. If a person is too dumb to figure that out, I'd really rather not have them posting here.

There is far more to taking a pleasing screenshot than simply pressing F5. To say otherwise is to belittle the entire concept of professional photographers. This said, the skill involved in framing and selecting shots is composed of entirely too much instinct to possibly be described in a tutorial.

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<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting Cash Car Star</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>There is far more to taking a pleasing screenshot than simply pressing F5. To say otherwise is to belittle the entire concept of professional photographers. This said, the skill involved in framing and selecting shots is composed of entirely too much instinct to possibly be described in a tutorial.</DIV></DIV>

i agree, and disagree.

map editing is an art, but hardly on par with profession photographers. at least on a screen shot level. (no insult intended to our pro level designers intended)

few people make levels worthy of truly serious consideration of how to frame a screen shot in the best light. most of us have mediocre hallways and so-so outside areas, and no fancy angle would assist those. the truly beautiful levels would have us inside them looking anyways, and no screen shot can compare to actually loading and looking at the map.

i do however believe that you can take screen shots wrong, there may not be a best right way, but there is definitely a wrong. most would believe that clipping to an area thats inaccessible is the best, i disagree. its good for capturing map errors, but one should always portray their maps in such a way as to represent the map how it will look when played. giving a false impression with clipping ruins the authenticity. squatting down, this also ruins a screen. it skews the angle and textures are off. taking screens with an object to near, when you want the background to be important can also ruin the shot.
anywho's i think you said it best when you hinted that a tutorial on it would be difficult at best.

I find it takes me at least 5 minutes to take a screenshot of my maps, I did photography A level, so I'm picky... And I'm even slower at mapping.