Is it right to re-sell Live8 tickets on EBay?

If you don't know, Live 8 is a 'new' version of Live Aid which has the aim of making money for and raising awareness of poverty in Africa, and the only way to get tickets is to enter a text message 'lottery.' However, it seems some unscrupulous people are trying to sell Live 8 tickets on EBay, with most serious prices starting at ?300 for a pair (although it seems some people are "fighting back" and bumping prices up to several million pounds). Given the charitable nature of this event, and that few/none of these listings say they'll give the money to charity, is this right? What do you guys think about it?

Nah, they shouldn't.

Here in Belgium, we also have a huge Rock Festival coming up ("Rock
Werchter" ... anybody ?) and people sell tickets on ebay and fora for
like six times the price. Some people buy 10 tickets in advance at a
normal price, and re-sell them for a lot of money.

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/me avoids.. hunger/poverty is not just an Africa thing. :/

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the organisers should have stuck a couple of thousand tickets on ebay themselves.

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Orpheus said:
/me avoids.. hunger/poverty is not just an Africa thing. :/

Of course it's not, but show me somewhere else where there is as much widespread, chronic malnutrition, with wars, diseases and corruption also thrown onto people. First world poverty doesn't even come close to how bad it can get in Africa and some parts of Asia.

Nop, you shouldnt.

Wish i could go to rock werchter, couldnt go to pink pop either:(

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Only if the proceeds go to charity, but on ebay you can't be sure...

Wooyay! Ebay would appear to have been pwned, by the Bob-meister, and various crank bidders (?10,000,000 bids etc), shutting the sales down.

However, I'm not sure its THAT outrageous. The whole psuedo-raffle
setup was fine, and I don't think the tickets should be sold on,
but it does give people the chance to see the concert that weren't
fortunate to 'win'

(semi-interesting point about phone/text-in 'competitions': the reason
all tv-shows etc have patronising questions, is to get around gambling
laws. By adding a qualifying question, it becomes a competition, and
not a raffle, which would require TV shows to get a license etc.)

Leperous said:
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<DIV class=quotetext>/me avoids.. hunger/poverty is not just an Africa thing. :/

Of course it's not, but show me somewhere else where there is as much widespread, chronic malnutrition, with wars, diseases and corruption also thrown onto people. First world poverty doesn't even come close to how bad it can get in Africa and some parts of Asia.</div></div>

You really don't wanna get me started on this topic. For people as smart as you all are supposed to be, I am positive that with a bit of research you could ascertain EXACTLY why there are the conditions that exist in Africa.

The African continent has every environment it takes to alleviate the situation if they wanted to badly enough. Its not as if we were discussing Iceland or someplace that couldn't do so.

Poverty is a condition thats created, it doesn't just show up one day like a disease..
anywho's.. I do not think it wise for me to say more.. Just think before you say more..

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Actually, I like this direction. Too many people pussy out of the
discussion, for fear of sounding like they hate poor people or are
racist etc.

In my personal opinion its all down to education. For example, there
would be no chance of Tony Blair pulling stunts like Robert Mugabe,
he'd be lynched quite quickly if he ever tried directly screwing the
people financially. But, in the case of Zimbabwe, its not a matter of
they're poor because they're stupid.

If a government controls the media, its pretty difficult for any
opposing message to be spread. These types of countries have a monopoly
on the information fed to their people. Its like the concept in
Orwell's 1984, that you can't rebel if revolution is removed from the
language.

Some despots just take the money thrown at them and buy bloody
limosines and aeroplanes for their ruler. You can't just GIVE money to
countries like this, you need to spend it for them, which seems like an
invasion, and rightly so.

Had the white Europeans not been such assholes to Africa, they would
glady respect us, instead of seeing any attempts at intervention as the
whites trying to screw them again.

If I was writing blank cheques to these nations the first thing I'd do
is finance independant news networks. Despotism thrives on propaganda
and control of a countries intellect.

I firmly believe that the greatest thing the United Kingdom (hate them
as I do) ever created and maintained was its nasty, viscious media.
Having such a vigilant watchdog is what keeps the ones in power from
even thinking about it!

You need a 4th "Depends" option... or sustain.

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More options would be nice.. It is even more black/white than I care to discuss.

[EDIT] Then again, if the topic had not strayed, the choices would have been enough..

tough call there. :/

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I voted no, I dont think charity things should be re-sold on the honor system.

As for the 3rd worldness of Africa, remeber that while it my be the
fault of Africa, most of the contries have been independent for only 50
years. They havn't had the same 500+ years to grow like our 1st
world countries have. Look at the US, we started out with a very
strong frame work, yet we were having a civil war almost 100 years
later. It took us about 200 years to create equality for all
citizens.

Now think about African countries, they have war lords, evil dictators,
ethnic/religious diffrances, etc. how can we expect them to
settle all of their troubles and get out of the pit they are in with
out some outside help?

After what the imperial countries did to them, I think its only fair.

Ebay have banned selling them now anyway, but I started thinking to myself...

I reckon its fine. Just 'cus your a charity doesn't mean everyones gunna cry and rub thier eyes and s**t. Live8 or whatever are being damn right stupid- they should give the option to buy the tickets for large sums of money, or at least personalise tickets to the people who win- much like a plane ticket. They have only themselves to blaim for having trust in humanity :razz:

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I heard on the radio that one bloke had sold his ticket for ?900 and there was a little part of a interview they had with him and he said "Well I was always taught that charity begins at home."

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I read the ebay notices on the topic, and initially they said "we've
decided to allow sales of the tickets since we firmly believe that
anything owned by a person - whether bought or won in a contest - is
that person's right to sell". After loads of uproar on forums and what
have you, they changed their mind. Oh how firmly they stood by their
belief :biggrin:

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Well, by that logic you should be able to sell half the things on their banned list :rolleyes:

Everyone contradicts themselves nowadays... Best if your a company to run anything your gunna say through a computer just to check :razz:

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This kinda thing is called scalping and is illegal here

But someone always does it

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