: Single Player Versus Multi Player :

In your opinion, what is better to map for: Single Player or Multi
Player? And I mean any mod, such as Opposing Force, Counter Strike etc.
Give reasons for your choice, such as its more fun to map for, gets
played more, less restrictions etc.

I prefer Single Player mapping, proberly cause I like making puzzles
and stuff, and I never finish MP maps. I also like trying my Maps/Mods
out on my friends!

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I would love to change the world, But they would'nt give me the source code.

I voted MP because projects take less time and will likely see more popularity and play time.

I voted MP because projects take less time and will likely see
more popularity and play time.

I find MP maps take ages to map! Also very, very few maps become popular. Look at it: Dust and Aztec.
Only maps that are really played now :/ I hate playing MP maps I made
against friends and stuff, feels

awkard.

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I would love to change the world, But they would'nt give me the source code.

I find single-player is easier, as spoolE said, making puzzles is fun !!

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Thats the spirit!

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I would love to change the world, But they would'nt give me the source code.

Well... if we were to name the number of famous custom singleplayer
maps we were familiar with vs. the number of famous custom multiplayer
maps we were familiar with, I think you'd see a huge imbalance.

Multiplayer is always the most popular element of the HL games, and
therefore the custom multiplayer maps see more popularity and playtime
than the singleplayer ones, imo.

self: said:
One only plays a sp map once or twice, while a mp map gets
played over and over again. Plus mp maps take less time to make.

And you can replace "puzzles" with "traps" if you want something special in there.

Hmm, well, I like SP better, but imo takes awfully long time to make a good SP map. Although for easiness, I think MP.

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If you want to make a quality single-player map, it takes a lot more thinking and effort to make it right. You have to consider pacing, combat variety, balance (AI versus player), ammo placement and weapon availability, and the ultimate fun factor.

But most importantly, I never get to play the multiplayer maps I make. I don't have any local gaming friends, and I can't get my map hosted anywhere on the internet servers. So I devote the majority of my mapping energy to single-player projects.

I like tricking the player and playing psychological games with the player in a single-player map. You can't have that kind of relationship with the players in a deathmatch map. In an arena, it's mostly player against player, not designer/mapper against player.

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"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return." -- Toulouse-Lautre, Moulin Rouge

I voted Singleplayer because there is an exclamation point after it!!!

no really, i voted MP, because i like the idea of ppl fragging eachother in my maps.

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Better? What do you mean better?

I like them both. But MP is easier, since you have to think about less things while making the map. Sure in SP you can go all out, but then you not only have to deal with brush work, but you have to deal with logic, physics (if available), and other such things. If you can pump out a GOOD SP map, then you should have trouble doing MP. Just don't get carried away.

But, as for better? I don't think either is better than the other.

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Blame it on Microsoft, God does.

i like the idea of ppl fragging eachother in my maps

I agree it's a nice concept, but when was the last time you participated in such frag-fest? I never have, and probably never will. So I focus on single-player instead.

People frag in my DM maps only in my dreams.

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"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return." -- Toulouse-Lautre, Moulin Rouge

I've had people frag/play in 2 maps that I've made... and there's no
better feeling (at least in the digital realm). I love getting
feedback, and the positive comments make me just grin foolishly and get
all light and happy inside.

The idea of taking something from my head, and using my hands to make
it on my computer... and then distributing it to the computers of
others... and then have them move around in this world that once
existed only in my hand is awesome. It's playing God in a small
simple way.

i have to go for SP. i can express my creativity with more freedom and restrictions. plus you can put more into an SP map - npcs, puzzles, more extravagant objectives, things like tha

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I've had people frag/play in 2 maps that I've made... and there's no better feeling

I envy you, ATM. You're lucky enough to be attending an university, where there is an audience for gaming. I've waited too long to become a mapper, and none of my doctor friends play any video games.

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"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return." -- Toulouse-Lautre, Moulin Rouge

Actually -- both times that I've had a map played came from being in a
gaming "clan." None of my friends here play the games I do, and
none of them would be interested in the maps I make. Everytime
I've tested / played a map I've made it has been with either perfect
strangers, or just online acquaintances.

I know you're pretty busy as a doctor and a husband, but if you ever
get involved in CS:S mapping or a similar pursuit, try joining a clan
for that game... and then eventually broach the subject of testing your
map. In joining a clan you instantly have a server to test the
map on as well as 10-15 people willing to play your creation.

When I was testing my map rushdown it became pretty popular among my
clanmates and it was voted on rotation quite often, and many many
strangers came in and played it with us. It's always shocking to
see how many people are willing to download a map they've never seen
before. It was seriously one of the most rewarding mapping
experiences in my short history of fooling around with hammer.

Better? What do you mean better?

Heh, exactly my thoughts... :smile:

I don't think any of the two is better, personally I prefer SP somewhat
but I've also gotten the hang of MP more these days. In SP, it's you
versus the player, and that may seem easy for some, for others it's
harder, in MP it's players versus players and for me that's much harder
to predict. Both have their hard things and their easy things so I'd
say, go for what you like most and what you're most familiar with.

I didn't play a lot of MP and so I didn't really got a feeling for MP
layout. I played a lot of SP so I had a better feeling for it. But now
that I play more online my feeling for it also gets better and I now
actually enjoy it so that's why I keep mapping for DM for now. I might
do a SP map eventually again though. I don't see it as going for one or
the other. You can do both if you like.

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