grid settings

I would like to know what your grid settings are are. Because everytime i think i make something a reasonable size it turns to be oversized and feel like rats. I would like to know yall's grid settings and how many Squares(the highlighted lines) = a nice realistic feeling sized hallway. ty

I usually set it at 16 when making walls. It is important to always have an info_player_start in the map and build around it so you always have a constant comparison to your brushes.

(if you didn't know, info_player_start is the same height as the player ingame)

Usually my halls are 128 units wide with differing heights, depending on the situation.

Yak_Fighter said:
I usually set it at 16 when making walls. It is important to always have an info_player_start in the map and build around it so you always have a constant comparison to your brushes.

(if you didn't know, info_player_start is the same height as the player ingame)

Usually my halls are 128 units wide with differing heights, depending on the situation.

this, will answer all your woes..

I start a map by placing a player start at the world origin and building around it.

64, because the player height is 72...And I build, then stick a player start in to see :smile: .

I use Hammer 3.5 so I can see player models and exactly how high they are. But as for grid settings that I use it varies pretty much every 10 seconds. But I usually don't have much use for anything higher than 32 or 64. 16 or 8 would be my most common settings.

Vash said:
64, because the player height is 72...And I build, then stick a player start in to see :smile: .

That's eyelevel... not player height. 64 is huge though, I can't expect you get good detail out of that. I stick to around 16 and 8. QuArK's grid has stronger lines every 8 weak grid lines so if I want to do something bigger, I can get 64 by just using the strong grid lines.

Cash Car Star said:

Vash said:
64, because the player height is 72...And I build, then stick a player start in to see :smile: .

That's eyelevel... not player height. 64 is huge though, I can't expect you get good detail out of that. I stick to around 16 and 8. QuArK's grid has stronger lines every 8 weak grid lines so if I want to do something bigger, I can get 64 by just using the strong grid lines.

Hammer has those stronger lines as well...

Standard 64. I use the [ and ] keys to change it when I need to, for walls etc.

I'm always click-placing aiscripted_sequences on stuff in the 3d view, then either immediately after i get the idea of scale, or before I compile I delete them.

Its less known then it should be that with the entity tool out you can just click on faces in the 3d view and it will make the entity you have selected at that point on the brush.

Why aiscripted_sequences and not info_player_starts? Well the origin for player starts is in the middle of the entity so that when you click-place it on a brush playerstarts will be half in the ground and you have to move it in the 2d views to get it at the right height. aiscripted_sequences, however, have their origin at the bottom of their "feet", so when you click-place it it appears there at the size of a player.

Also, if you accidentally forget to delete the aiscripted_sequence before you compile, its no biggie since it wont actually DO anything. Adding in playerstarts to see proportions, however, will leave you with playerstarts in positions you don't intend.

Why aiscripted_sequences and not scripted_sequences? No realy reason really other than that they come first in the alphabet so i dont have to go searching through the entity list to find em. Also when mapping for SP when i actually want to script stuff I use scripted_secuences with the 'override AI' flag checked instead (same net result as if i had used ai_scriptedsequences), but then before I compile I can safely select and delete all aiscripted_sequences through the entity report screen.

That was a long and complicated explanation for a simple mapping technique.

I usually create a map with a player start, then run it, and then go "Damn, all my walls are 3x player height!" Then back to Hammer and the power of ctrl+M.

How do you people possibly get any good level of detail at 64? If anything I'm typically going down to 4, even 2 at times.

Aren't the grid settings different depending on if you're mapping for HL or NS or whatever?

The hullfile is different for NS, but the base player height of a marine is the same as good old Gordon. HL Rally and Uncrossable Parallel I believe scale their maps differently to allow for larger landscapes. CS uses a slightly lower viewheight and playerheight (same hullfile though). Otherwise everything's the same. And none of those would come anywhere close to making 64 a good standard size.

I also think starting with an info_play_start is a good plan. Then use whatever grid size is appropriate for what you are building... if you want to make a huge tower or something, grid size 2 will just mean you make small errors - if you are trying to make details, then obviously grid size 32 isn't really going to work.

the first thing i do when i open an rmf of mine is set the grid to 1...... :heee: ....autocad learning.... ....its just what im used to.... :wink: ....moral of the story?.....if it feels good to you, use it.....but remember where yer asking the questions....

Doc Brass.... :dodgy:

I always use grid size 8, but i turn it down to 1 when working on small details.

Usually (IMO) a corridor should be 128~160 high, 128~192 wide. A good idea might be to look at the wall textures and use their dimensions.

I usually try to go with the biggest size that can get the job done. The smaller the grid the easier it is to get leaks and errors.

I vary quite largely, although I don't think I've ever gone above 32 intentionally, or 64 absolute max. 8 or 16 is probably my most common setting.

I like using size 16 now, because i have graph paper that are just about the same as size 16, and overall easier for me to translate what i draw on the graph paper, onto the grid.