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                        Posted by rival on 
    Sat Sep 24th 2005 at 4:43pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        i turned on steam this morning and had to update HL2, CSS, and SDK. i opened CSS to see what the newest thing was.
the only thing i was greeted with was 8 fps.
it is unplayable.
i checked the video options and found HDR was on high so i turned that off and all the options back to what they were.
again only 8 fps.
just a few days ago i got a playable 25 - 35 fps and now i cant even play it.
it is the exact same with HL2.
so can anyone suggest what is causing the problem?
my specs are:
1.7ghz pentium 4
640mb RAM
Geforce FX5200
intel mobo
                                            
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                        Re: more problems
                        Posted by Andrei on 
    Sat Sep 24th 2005 at 5:26pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        I too am having the same problems. At first I thought the game was
unable of writing the userconfig.cfg file but I was wrong. I am now
stuck at 8 glorious FPS on lockdown.
Anyone have any ideas before I slit my jugular?
my specs are:
1.8ghz AMD AthlonXP
512mb DDRx1
Geforce FX5200 128MB DDR (latest driver).
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: more problems
                        Posted by French Toast on 
    Sat Sep 24th 2005 at 5:53pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
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                        Try re-running Steam.  That update tha you're talking about, a lot
of people had trouble with it.  They released another update that
fixed the errors.
My only guess.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: more problems
                        Posted by rival on 
    Sat Sep 24th 2005 at 11:01pm
                     
                    
                        
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                        i think i found the problem.
while going over my video options it said my hardware level was 'DirectX 9' when before it had been at 8. so i think that my ancient card trying to run source at a hardware level of DirectX 9 is what is dragging my fps down. my card never ran at it before and thats why i had playable fps. 
anyone know what to do about this? (i am planning on getting a new card but money is something i dont have just now)
                                            
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                        Re: more problems
                        Posted by Andrei on 
    Sat Sep 24th 2005 at 11:43pm
                     
                    
                        
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                        I would love to think that the source engine was made to run well on a
large variety of machines, from NASA-worthy ones to old crusty
coal-powered ones, and that VALVe kept and will keep this thought in mind at all times. Cause if they won't
then they risk loosing a large segment of the gaming public. Not
everyone can afford to buy expensive hardware every year to keep-up
with game requirements. :sad:
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: more problems
                        Posted by Saint on 
    Sun Sep 25th 2005 at 1:10am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        to set your game back to directX8 use
-dxlevel 81
write it in console or in your gamestarticon
                                            
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                        Re: more problems
                        Posted by Crono on 
    Sun Sep 25th 2005 at 9:15am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        The command is "dxlevel 80", and yes, it does exist.
Further more, the steampowered support area says that there's a good chance it will not run well if you 512MB of ram ... or less. (It goes further to recommend you clear up as much ram as possible)
I haven't tried, but I bet this is the reason why mine is crashing.
                                            
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                        Re: more problems
                        Posted by Saint on 
    Sun Sep 25th 2005 at 12:06pm
                     
                    
                        
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                        ..\Steam\Steam.exe -console -applaunch 320 -dxlevel 81
this works definitly :smile:
                                            
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                        Re: more problems
                        Posted by rs6 on 
    Sun Sep 25th 2005 at 1:52pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        I had no problems. I booted up HL2 looked at my options they where the same, minus the HDR option. The game worked fine.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: more problems
                        Posted by rival on 
    Sun Sep 25th 2005 at 3:19pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        i tried 'dxlevel 80' into the console but did not work. but my card trying to run at directx 9 is what it is. i have all my settings on low and it still looks like high texture detail plus high shader detail.
                                            
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                        Re: more problems
                        Posted by Andrei on 
    Sun Sep 25th 2005 at 6:25pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        Oh, thanks for the hint! That "find" command will be most useful. :biggrin:
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: more problems
                        Posted by Crono on 
    Sun Sep 25th 2005 at 8:37pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        Well, you can use 70, 80, 81, and 90. Meaning: DirectX 7, 8, 8.1, and 9 respectivley.
It suggested 8.0 to fix the errors caused by that new patch.
I also believe "dxlevel" is a launch option ... meaning, if you do it in game, chances are, you'd have to restart the game. But that's a guess.
                                            
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                        Re: more problems
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    Sun Sep 25th 2005 at 8:48pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        yea if you right click on the game, in the my games menu and select properties then lauch options type -dxlevel xx  This will stay forever
(xx being the level you want.)
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: more problems
                        Posted by Dark Tree on 
    Mon Sep 26th 2005 at 12:06am
                     
                    
                        
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                        dxlevel 81 worked great. Thanks guys
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: more problems
                        Posted by Underdog on 
    Mon Sep 26th 2005 at 1:00am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
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                        Having a nasty 5200 sure isn't helping your situation any. At this point, my gaming machine is in storage and I cannot even play HL2 ATM, but with this 56k I have now, I am not really in any hurry either.
Good luck with this issue. It would be curious to know if anyone not using a GeForce card is having this problem.
                                            
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                        Re: more problems
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    Mon Sep 26th 2005 at 5:04pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        Something that's not equivalent to the MX series of cards.
                                            
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                        Re: more problems
                        Posted by rival on 
    Mon Sep 26th 2005 at 5:55pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        ive decided that, for now, im going to just stick with the directx solution (by the way thanks everyone for your help)
                                            
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                        Re: more problems
                        Posted by rival on 
    Mon Sep 26th 2005 at 7:59pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        let me correct myself. that didnt work either. looks like i am forced to get a new card. no css for a while now :sad:
                                            
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