It's not just a console...

It's not just a console...

Re: It's not just a console... Posted by Hornpipe2 on Thu Dec 11th 2003 at 1:47am
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Re: It's not just a console... Posted by Yak_Fighter on Thu Dec 11th 2003 at 3:23am
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Now if only it came with system-only games other than Halo that were good...
Re: It's not just a console... Posted by Vash on Thu Dec 11th 2003 at 3:45am
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The xbox can sue and get a fine settlement!
Re: It's not just a console... Posted by OtZman on Thu Dec 11th 2003 at 4:39pm
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:eek: impressive
Re: It's not just a console... Posted by Neural Scan on Thu Dec 11th 2003 at 5:14pm
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If I ever go to war, I'm taking an Xbox :lol:
Re: It's not just a console... Posted by matt on Thu Dec 11th 2003 at 5:25pm
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What would be good if in version 1.7 of CS you will be able to get a Kevlar/Xbox armour!
Re: It's not just a console... Posted by Myrk- on Thu Dec 11th 2003 at 9:18pm
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lol old old news :razz:

The guy most likely shot it at an extreme angle, which would always reflect off a hard surface...
Re: It's not just a console... Posted by Dr Brasso on Thu Dec 11th 2003 at 9:21pm
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:lol: the guys either a piss poor shot, or really didnt want to do anything other than scare the s**t out of em and make a point.....its a little extreme (mass understatement), but ill bet they got the point... :rofl: what a dumbass....people never cease to amaze me....

Doc Brass... :dodgy:
Re: It's not just a console... Posted by Gorbachev on Fri Dec 12th 2003 at 12:59am
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Boat anchor, riot shield, what will they think of next...?
Re: It's not just a console... Posted by SuperCrazy on Fri Dec 12th 2003 at 3:55am
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Yak_Fighter said:
Now if only it came with system-only games other than Halo that were good...
I'm not an Xbox fanboy by any means, but people use that line way too often. The Xbox has plenty of amazing exclusive titles (Morrowind? Knights of the Old Republic? Crimson Skies? etc.), and this is ignoring the fact that the Xbox can emulate games from any previous console if you mod it (Among many other things). Most cross-platform titles are going to look and/or run better on the Xbox as well.
Re: It's not just a console... Posted by Yak_Fighter on Fri Dec 12th 2003 at 4:18am
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SuperCrazy said:
Yak_Fighter said:
Now if only it came with system-only games other than Halo that were good...
I'm not an Xbox fanboy by any means, but people use that line way too often. The Xbox has plenty of amazing exclusive titles (Morrowind? Knights of the Old Republic? Crimson Skies? etc.), and this is ignoring the fact that the Xbox can emulate games from any previous console if you mod it (Among many other things). Most cross-platform titles are going to look and/or run better on the Xbox as well.
Morrowind? Funny, that computer game is sitting on my desk as we speak... :razz: Also, Crimson Skies was originally a PC game. This one is probably the sequel, but still.

The modding thing is pretty kickass, and to be honest if I were to buy a console it would be the XBox (so I could get Halo2)
Re: It's not just a console... Posted by thursday- on Sat Dec 13th 2003 at 7:45pm
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Yak_Fighter said:
Now if only it came with system-only games other than Halo that were good...
Halo is on PC too :razz: Also, good thing they deflect bullets, means when I get mine I can hit it as much as i liek without damaging it!
Re: It's not just a console... Posted by ReNo on Sun Dec 14th 2003 at 2:12pm
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I'm with SC. I own a PC, Xbox, PS2 and Dreamcast, and so I think that proves I'm not an Xbox fanboy, but at the same time I must say its my favourite of the 4. Any cross platform games I buy I get on the Xbox, its just generally the superior console (no need for memory card, run faster, look better, load quicker, etc...).

Perhaps there are more unique games for the PS2, but most of the time I find myself let down by them and not by the Xbox ones. Games such as Otogi, Project Gotham Racing series, Amped series, Phantom Crash, KOTOR, and so on are all far classier than most of the equivelants I've played on the PS2 (such as the SSX series, which is available on both anyway, GT3, Armoured Core (best I can think of to compare to Phantom Crash), etc...).

The one area in which the PS2 currently beats the Xbox hands down is strategy / RPG titles, although with the likes of Fable, Jade Empire, Sudeki, KOTOR2 and more on the way, I think its dominance in this area is soon to slip. Japan is also beginning to develop more original titles for the Xbox which was one of its let downs, so titles like Phantom Dust, Red Ninja and Magatama are also gonna sway the balance.

All in all, its very unfair to judge the xbox solely on Halo, which isn't as AMAZING as everyone seems to think it is anyway...though it is still the best console FPS ever I suppose :smile:
Re: It's not just a console... Posted by Orpheus on Sun Dec 14th 2003 at 2:28pm
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pats new PC

for all the fan fair, nothing IMO will ever replace my pc or its games.

yeah i have seen some amazing stuff for others systems, but i cannot get past the lack of a keyboard as the input interface.

also, i have never seen a game that peaks my interest, i am not into cars chases, drug deals, airplanes, sword fights or any of those types.

if its not akin to HL, or civ II its just not interesting at all.

anywho's, yeah i have several consoles here, all older ones. the newest is a dreamcaste i think, but still i get bored even watching them after about 3 minutes.

i think i will leave them to the next generation, cause i see no use for them.
Re: It's not just a console... Posted by ReNo on Sun Dec 14th 2003 at 2:40pm
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I barely ever use my PC for gaming anymore, its the tool while my consoles are my toys :smile: I love some PC games (HL, Fallout games, etc...) but I'm definately the console type I guess.
Re: It's not just a console... Posted by Monqui on Sun Dec 14th 2003 at 4:04pm
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Sorry ReNo- i just gotta say something in response to that... I really hate how people tote the fact that the XBox doesn't require a memory card as a plus... All the games are saved on your console only... That was the beauty of the memory card! You want to go over to your friends house and play with some custom characters, just lug over a 3 oz. memory card- not the entire console set. It's just not possible with the XBox.

I love my memory cards, I really think they're the next best thing to in-cartridge saving.
Re: It's not just a console... Posted by ReNo on Sun Dec 14th 2003 at 4:18pm
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Monqui, you can buy memory cards for the xbox, you just don't NEED to. If you often take save files to mates consoles, you can get a memory card for ?20, just like you can for the PS2, but if you don't (I only have one mate with an Xbox, and I've never needed to take save files) then thats ?20 you don't need to bother spending. You can copy any of your save files from the hard drive to the memory card. And of course the hard drive has loads of space on it, so you can rip your CD collection to it and use them as soundtracks to games :smile:
Re: It's not just a console... Posted by Monqui on Sun Dec 14th 2003 at 5:10pm
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Touch?, ReNo. Didn't know that.

I'm still bitter though :razz:
Re: It's not just a console... Posted by ReNo on Sun Dec 14th 2003 at 5:16pm
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Its good that they accomodated for it, but its not much of a touted feature, as I guess it has limited appeal.

The HDD is lovely though, going onto a different console really makes you appreciate how great it is. I've 5 memory cards for my Dreamcast, and 6 for my PS1, and finding the right save files on them can be a bitch, so having the HDD on the Xbox saves loads of hassle.

I've got about 20 or something Xbox games, each with multiple save files for me and my flat mates, as well as lots of ripped mp3s, and the space counter for the HDD still hasn't been dented. I think its 8Gbs or something large, which is more than enough for save files, music, and a few downloadable features like new levels etc...
Re: It's not just a console... Posted by Monqui on Sun Dec 14th 2003 at 5:41pm
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Yeah, but I have just one memory card for my PS2, and it hasn't filled up yet. So its not too huge of a deal for the PS2 at least (for me...). But I know what you're talking about with the multiple cards being a huge bitch for the PS1. Ugh- I really hated that.

I also hate how you can't partition space for a PS1 save on a PS2 mem-card, but thats probably just me.
Re: It's not just a console... Posted by ReNo on Sun Dec 14th 2003 at 5:45pm
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Hmmm, I hadn't actually noticed you couldn't, but its not something I would have done anyway really, as I doubt I'll be needing any more memory card space for PS1 games. I agree about it not really being an issue on the PS2, I have about 12 games for it so far and have loads of room left on my 1 memory card. Pity they are expensive, but at least you don't need many like with the PS1.
Re: It's not just a console... Posted by Gorbachev on Sun Dec 14th 2003 at 8:17pm
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Monqui said:
Yeah, but I have just one memory card for my PS2, and it hasn't filled up yet. So its not too huge of a deal for the PS2 at least (for me...). But I know what you're talking about with the multiple cards being a huge bitch for the PS1. Ugh- I really hated that.

I also hate how you can't partition space for a PS1 save on a PS2 mem-card, but thats probably just me.
You can't use a PS2 card as a PS1 card -but- you can back up PS1 files onto a PS2 card directly with the browser. Each file takes up something like 10kb. I have all my PS1 games backed up on my PS2 card. I also happened upon a sweet FFX-2 card when I was in Japan...it cost less than a normal one here in Canada and it game with an awesome looking case to boot.
Re: It's not just a console... Posted by ReNo on Mon Dec 15th 2003 at 12:57am
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Do foreign memory cards (and other peripherals, for that matter) work? I figured each areas were unique in some way, but I haven't looked into it.
Re: It's not just a console... Posted by Gorbachev on Mon Dec 15th 2003 at 4:05pm
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Yeah, foreign peripherals works just fine. The voltages of a console are the same once it's in the console (the transformer at the back just converts it to say "PS2 internal voltage") and there are no regional limitations on peripherals. Games can be tricky, they may or may not work in a foreign zone. I've seen it work, but sometimes it doesn't.
Re: It's not just a console... Posted by Hornpipe2 on Wed Dec 17th 2003 at 7:40pm
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Importing games usually requires a modchip, or some other modification to your system. Anything that used a cartridge either has an adapter available, or something you could sand off the inside of your console to accomodate some new tab on a foreign game (eg N64).

Dreamcast didn't need a modchip because the designers left in a backdoor to boot code off a CD-R. That was all it took to make mass piracy possible, and now Dreamcast games can be downloaded and played without a hitch. CDs are available for download that let you swap in a foreign game.

PS1, PS2, and XBox require a modchip, though you can get a cd-based swap setup for PS1. Modchips for PS2 are available in a no-solder form (I think) where you just plug it into some socket inside the console and you're set.

Gamecube has a little solder point inside that when bridged switches it to Japanese. Many people install switches that let them play imports. You could also get an Action Replay that wouldn't require any modding to your Gamecube. So far however the copy protection on the Gamecube has been very tough to crack, and while there is homebrew code out there that exploits a hole in Phantasy Star Online's "update" code, the only way to play pirated games at the moment is to stream them over a network from your PC. No modchips are available yet because nobody can figure out how to disable the barcode check for every mini-DVD put into the console. Needless to say not many people are big users of this streaming method...

Can you tell I'm a Gamecube owner?
Re: It's not just a console... Posted by thursday- on Thu Dec 18th 2003 at 11:04am
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I fear that Kevlar may one day be replaced with a better, stronger although slightly chunky design.

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Re: It's not just a console... Posted by Forceflow on Thu Dec 18th 2003 at 11:10am
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oh lol. :biggrin:
Re: It's not just a console... Posted by wil5on on Thu Dec 18th 2003 at 12:26pm
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thats great! :lol:

except it should read:

XBOX + Helmet - Can deflect all projectiles with its casing, and can deflect any legal attack with its 500 expensive lawyers and billion-dollar cash settlements.
Re: It's not just a console... Posted by Forceflow on Thu Dec 18th 2003 at 12:36pm
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Edit the picture,man ... great idea :razz: