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Re: ts_salooncity Posted by the Carpenter on Tue Jun 13th 2006 at 11:32pm
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1st time to this board.

I've been mapping HL for about 6 years.

My finished work can be seen here: Bob Endo - Sprites & Maps

Pix of my latest are further down.




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Re: ts_salooncity Posted by Orpheus on Tue Jun 13th 2006 at 11:57pm
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Hello, I Make Maps.
No, go away. We no need no stinkin mappers around'ere. :heee:

I gotta say though that I am a bit underwhelmed by the screens. 6 years you say?

Maybe you shoulda found Snarkpit sooner. I can confidently say that we would have had you a bit further along by now.

Before I piss you off to much let me say.. Welcome to Snarkpit.

The best things in life, aren't things.
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by Juim on Wed Jun 14th 2006 at 2:16am
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The architecture is definitely crisp looking Orph. And the texturing is top notch. I especially like the last shot. Very colorful. I like it. Has great potential.

PS. I believe these are pre-source screens.
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by Orpheus on Wed Jun 14th 2006 at 10:15am
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Are we looking at the same links? The blue ones?

I see dark, grey, flat buildings no better than those things Sulsa built years ago.

No offense but, they are dismal.

/me rechecks.. Perhaps I was badly mistaken for which I apologize whole heartedly.

The best things in life, aren't things.
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by reaper47 on Wed Jun 14th 2006 at 3:36pm
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Very, crisp, clean mapping. I like.
Could need a lot more contrast in lighting, though. Looks like three white spotlights are brightening up the whole thing (and it's still dark).

Welcome to the Snarkpit, Carpenter. Orpheus is as critical as he is honest so don't take it to hard. If you hadn't the 6 years of experience his comments would have been 6 times harsher, believe me it's possible.
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by the Carpenter on Thu Jun 15th 2006 at 5:13am
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6 years = thick skin/humble

More progress in the last 24 hrs though & I thought I'd show it.

Even further down, now.
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by R-o-D on Thu Jun 15th 2006 at 3:45pm
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yeah... 6 years?

I COULD say I've been mapping for 10+ if I included the screwing around with doom I did when i was a kid but, I dont.

looks very blocky to me.
textures appear to be very boring/monotone;

I think its time to move to source.
or quake 3 (since its practically free these days.)

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Re: ts_salooncity Posted by G.Ballblue on Thu Jun 15th 2006 at 4:43pm
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I personally think it looks rather cartoony. Colors seem to be of
more solid colors than textures, but that may be because I just got out
of the shower and my wet hair is danglining in front of my eyes :heee:

Just try to keep the w_poly down a bit and you're all set. I
realize that having fun with mapping and still making low-r_speed
architecture is nearly impossible, but you seem to be all set with
it. (I saw that one screen had 847 w_polys, which isn't too bad
in my book :smile: )

Also, there doesn't seem to be much cover in those streets. TS
leans towards realism, and a few sure-shot players or snipers would
clean house against anyone unlucky enough to be in those streets -- put
something in there that I can jump behind when some s.o.b. comes
charging out with an ak :razz:
Breaking the laws of mapping since 2003 and doing a damn fine job at it
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by reaper47 on Mon Jun 19th 2006 at 3:37pm
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Again, do something with lighting. Add some yellowish or blueish tones to the lights to get a cold/warm contrast or make some of them brighter, some of the lamps look like they hardly reach the floor, making the greyish ambient light the only thing you see.

Reminds me of oldschool mapping a la si_urban.
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by Cassius on Fri Jun 23rd 2006 at 10:04pm
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Orpheus said:
I see dark, grey, flat buildings no better than those things Sulsa built years ago.
I agree. It looks like the urban areas of Duke Nukem, to be quite honest. Is this intended to be a TSRP map? - if this is the case, I can understand the blockiness.
[Im_invisible] "I would suck a man off, but only for sustenance."
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by the Carpenter on Sun Jun 25th 2006 at 3:23am
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No ... death to roleplay.
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by Orpheus on Sun Jun 25th 2006 at 3:35am
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I realize our first meeting was somewhat less than optimal but... I really must ask that you read my tutorial.

I'd like to participate in any image viewing too.

The best things in life, aren't things.
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by the Carpenter on Sun Jun 25th 2006 at 3:42am
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Are you trying to say you can't clicky the linkies ?
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by Orpheus on Sun Jun 25th 2006 at 3:45am
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the Carpenter said:
Are you trying to say you can't clicky the linkies ?
Does my tutorial have anything at all to do with link creation?

sighs

Must I explain?

says slowly and concisely

56K!!!

The best things in life, aren't things.
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by the Carpenter on Sun Jun 25th 2006 at 3:46am
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Oh, dear God !!!

No !!!

You poor, poor bast**d !

How can you live that way ?

:biggrin:
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by Orpheus on Sun Jun 25th 2006 at 3:49am
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the Carpenter said:
How can you live that way ?
Slowly?

It seems I have no choice but to manage as best as I can. It is a decidedly different life style than I was used to.

I had 1.5mbs DSL until this year.

I cry myself to sleep every night. Speaking of which..

Nite-Nite everyone..
/me goes to bed.

The best things in life, aren't things.
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by Gwil on Mon Jun 26th 2006 at 9:15am
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I think the solution here Orph is really to stop trying to make the point in a roundabout way.

Say, "Like other people on this site, I am limited to a 56k connection.
Please take the time to ensure your screenshots are under 100kb in
filesize. This tutorial can help. Thanks"
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by mazemaster on Mon Jun 26th 2006 at 1:14pm
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Anyone remember that mapper Davros? Made Davroplex and a Dr. Who map as well. Anyways this map looks like his style.
http://maze5.net
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by Orpheus on Mon Jun 26th 2006 at 8:43pm
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Gwil said:
I think the solution here Orph is really to stop trying to make the point in a roundabout way.
I tried "Blunt" and "Hinting"

I suppose there must be a center ground. I will just quote you hence forth. Can't get much more centered than that.

I played Davroplex.. Can't say I see any resemblance. If anything, the buildings look Dukish. All flat fronted.

The best things in life, aren't things.
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by the Carpenter on Tue Jul 4th 2006 at 5:56am
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Screenies below ...
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by G.Ballblue on Tue Jul 4th 2006 at 7:09am
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I still think it's rather cartoony lookin' :razz:

The sky in particular adds that effect -- it's one, big, flat, color.

:razz:

Overall, it seems to be nice looking. I think the lighting is a bit too similar in too many areas (shadows don't look harsh enough in relation to the light, but that's just my lighting preference really)

The center of the streets looks a bit empty though. Once again: needs a bit more cover in my opinion.
Breaking the laws of mapping since 2003 and doing a damn fine job at it
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by Orpheus on Tue Jul 4th 2006 at 12:03pm
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I see nothing wrong if this is the result you were after when you began.

I also see nothing more noteworthy than a decently made Duke Nukem map either. Still not a bad thing considering how much fun I had playing and building maps for that engine.

What I would like to see is several shots with the r_speeds turned on.. (I assume this is the HL1 engine? If not then I'll settle for the FPS)

My only comment, and this one is superficial.. Your street layout looks like you took a bunch of cardboard boxes and lined them up flush with each other and painted buildings on them. Even cartoon buildings rarely line up so flush. Stagger them.

The best things in life, aren't things.
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by the Carpenter on Tue Jul 4th 2006 at 1:16pm
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r_speeds haven't changed since the big pix.

Under 1000 everywhere, as specified in the TS mapping "rules".
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by Cassius on Wed Jul 5th 2006 at 5:09am
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TS is still going strong? I'd better reinstall.
[Im_invisible] "I would suck a man off, but only for sustenance."
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by the Carpenter on Fri Jul 7th 2006 at 1:00am
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Do it !
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by Forceflow on Sat Jul 8th 2006 at 12:50am
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Cassius still alive ?
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Re: ts_salooncity Posted by the Carpenter on Sat Jul 8th 2006 at 3:27am
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See further below ...
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by Forceflow on Sat Jul 8th 2006 at 9:01am
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I'm sorry, but like all the others said, your textures look way too clean te convince me this is an urban environment.
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Re: ts_salooncity Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Sat Jul 8th 2006 at 2:11pm
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I like how he traded realism for style though.

Personally, I like the way this map looks. Sure, it's not realistic looking in the least, but it works for me.
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by the Carpenter on Tue Jul 11th 2006 at 6:46am
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Further ...
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Tue Jul 11th 2006 at 7:20am
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Carp, Blue Moon is a great beer, ain't it?
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by the Carpenter on Wed Aug 2nd 2006 at 5:50am
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See tour below.
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by Stadric on Wed Aug 2nd 2006 at 5:57am
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I'm sure Orph will love that gif. :rolleyes:

It's looking very crisp, that third screenshot especially.

I can't say I like the texture of the ceiling in the first shot, but I've never been in a gay bar, so who am I to judge.
Also change the texture of the dock. Docks are rarely tile. -Facepunch
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Re: ts_salooncity Posted by the Carpenter on Sat Aug 5th 2006 at 5:28am
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more down
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by the Carpenter on Sat Aug 5th 2006 at 8:05pm
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More ...
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by the Carpenter on Wed Aug 9th 2006 at 3:47am
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More still ...
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by reaper47 on Wed Aug 9th 2006 at 5:43pm
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That's one sexy gaybar.

These office shots a few posts ago could also benefit from lighting that looks less fullbright. Maybe making the lights a little less bright or making one off here and there. Or try moving them closer to the walls so the light isn't so symmetric.
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by the Carpenter on Fri Aug 11th 2006 at 4:00am
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Good suggestion !

Compiling with the new lighting now.

Pix later, of course.
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by DrGlass on Fri Aug 11th 2006 at 7:19pm
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I'd download and install CS 1.8 to play this map.
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by the Carpenter on Fri Aug 11th 2006 at 7:26pm
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Don't do that !

It's for the Specialists

(Not CS.)
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by the Carpenter on Mon Aug 14th 2006 at 12:48am
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Further ...
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Tue Aug 15th 2006 at 6:52pm
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I like the woman stripping in the window :smile:
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by midkay on Tue Aug 15th 2006 at 11:26pm
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That really looks good for being a Half-Life engine map. I really like most of the lighting - very very smooth, and realistic.
-- midkay
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by Mr.INSANE on Wed Aug 16th 2006 at 5:23am
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I must say i love your style Simple Yet Detailed all your maps are rather awesome
Why Do we all have to wear these ridiculous ties
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by the Carpenter on Fri Aug 18th 2006 at 1:31pm
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p.s. Cheers, Mr.INSANE !!!

Further ...
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by the Carpenter on Sat Aug 19th 2006 at 5:28pm
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Anybody ?
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by the Carpenter on Fri Aug 25th 2006 at 1:50am
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OK ... hard to admit, but I've decided I need some help.

Anybody here able to dirty up my existing textures ?
I've tried a dozen times & the results always suck.
Do you has what it takes ?
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by Stadric on Fri Aug 25th 2006 at 5:44am
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I doubt that I personally has what it takes to join the homestarmy, but it wouldn't help to post a (shrunken?) copy of the texture in question.
Also change the texture of the dock. Docks are rarely tile. -Facepunch
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Re: ts_salooncity Posted by Cassius on Fri Aug 25th 2006 at 6:41am
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the Carpenter said:
Anybody here able to dirty up my existing textures ?
I've tried a dozen times & the results always suck.
Do you has what it takes ?
Send me a URL for the WAD. I'll go ashcan.
Re: ts_salooncity Posted by the Carpenter on Sun Aug 27th 2006 at 12:09am
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Next one should have it ...

p.s. Don't even look Orpheus ... :wink:



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