is this gun any good

this si the crossman rat catcher which is a nice lightweight gun.

gas powerd

bolt action

and gimp wont let me shoot him with it

its an ok gun, but i will say a couple of things..

dont play with guns. never point them at a person, loaded, unloaded, c**ked, not c**ked - whatever, NEVER! point them at people.... they hurt rather a lot and can be really quite dangerous...

dont trifle with weapons.

Gwil said:
dont trifle with weapons.

heh

i do own this gun and i do know the important s**t which comes with them. it was just a joke that i pointed it at gimp but ive never actually pointed it at him or at any of my animals either.

the only thing i have shot is a wood pidgeon

antianticampersquad said:
the only thing i have shot is a wood pidgeon

Murderer!!

edit: ops, forgot to say that i was just kidding... :razz:

keep the shooting stuff to Paint balling, its cool.

Me and about 10 of my mate went paintballing once, we had the best time ever. Lot of bruises i must add.

What a pointless posession.

antianticampersquad said:
the only thing i have shot is a wood pidgeon

That saddens me greatly :sad:

A wodden piegon, that is made of wood, or a piegon that lives in the woods?

antianticampersquad said:
the only thing i have shot is a wood pidgeon

i hope you ate it. if not, then it was a bad thing to do.

so hitmen are fat then? :rolleyes:

Uh... I don't get what the problem with shooting a pigeon is... Would you care if he'd shot a rat? Or a squirrel? Or what about a deer?

unless he is a beaver, or a termite, i don't see anythings food here.. :rolleyes:

you know tho, is a wood pigeon actually made of wood, or is that a name of some avian?

There are reasons to kill rats, Whats the point in killing a pidgeon. I'l just go and shoot somebody shall I? because it doesnt matter tbh

Pigeons are known as rats with wings in some areas. They like to spread disease and eat children.

Yak_Fighter said:
Pigeons are known as rats with wings in some areas. They like to spread disease and eat children.

lol^^

by the way, cool avatar Diarmaidx2

Pigeons cause all kinds of problems KoRnFlakes - the simple fact is, their population isnt meant to be as big as it is now... their droppings spread lung diseases (often fatal to humans) and lots of other common "virii". Also their droppings degrade building materials and can render them unsafe...

Wood pigeons - just a breed of pigeon, dont see em in urban areas much, look a bit like collared doves.. and they arent just enclosed to woods either, theyre "all round rural creatures!" Have a "coo" like a cuckoo, and i think theyre brownish in colour..

I lived in london for several years, pidgeons make it as white as snow, I never saw people shooting them in the streets.

thats because its illegal to shoot them in the streets silly :razz:

in urban areas the council just poison them, if you prefer that to shooting of course :wink:

Let them decide, What gave him the right to shoot a pidgeon? There was no bloody reason to

In Exeter I think they brought in a falcon or some other bird of prey to keep down the pidgeon population... fair enough I say, but I can't help feel somewhat hypocritical in that I don't think it would be right to let people go round shooting the pidgeons instead.

since i have never lived in a city where the bird population was a concern, i cannot fathom the dilemma, pigeon meat is edible, and should not be wasted, if the city happens to be in a poorer country, so much the better.. eat them, the diseases are carried in the feathers, and doo doo, not the meat..

still if birds are spreading diseases, kill them until it is remedied... arkansas had a blackbird problem when i was a child, millions of them descended upon the state, many never left.. i lost no sleep then, nor would i now, given the same situation.

as for the air-gun, i think all kids should have them and be taught how to respect them.. that way when they get something lethal later in life, the habits will be deeply entrenched, and it will be instinct, not to do something stupid with them.

/ 2 cents

They're as brainless as a staple, who gives a crap if you kill one- unlike with killing humans, there are literally no consequences of doing it whatsoever. People who try to empathise with animals should realise they have no emotions and can't 'care' about things like we do.

Leperous said:
They're as brainless as a staple, who gives a crap if you kill one- unlike with killing humans, there are literally no consequences of doing it whatsoever. People who try to empathise with animals should realise they have no emotions and can't 'care' about things like we do.

Because animals dont care for families etc...

My 2 cents on bird-shootin':

Pidgeons must be the stupidest birds on the planet. My house has a sort of indoor-outdoor area, theres big canvas panels where windows would normally be. Anyway, sometimes the door is left open, and pidgeons fly in (occasionally). THEY DONT LEAVE!!!! You need 3 people to "herd" the damn things out.

Once when I was 2 I was attacked by a magpie. The little bugger bit me in the neck. Apparently this was a particularly nasty one, so eventually the police came and shot it. So I dont really have anything against people shooting wild birds, atleast if they have a good reason. However, in most situations, I consider people who hunt for sport redneck hillbillies. "Gawd dang burds! Get offa mah LAND!!!!!!"

/2cents... oh and BTW, I have pet birds. I feed them every day and talk to them. Hows that for irony?

well here is my opinion about bird shooting:

birds are conscious beings, so as a general rule they should be preserved unless there is no other choice (if they are a pest, ie a threat to other species, a nuisance to people, etc)

certainly i believe you shouldnt shoot wild birds. In australia, birds are hardly ever killed, and there are plenty of trees in cities for the birds to live in. Anyway in australia hardly anyone owns a gun, unless you're a farmer or gamekeeper or law enforcement officer.

btw soz to antianticampersquad that his question turned into a debate :S

What else could he have expected? :smile:

Guns are bad, nuf said.

matt said:
Guns are bad, nuf said.

then stand yours in the corner till it straightens up :rolleyes:

personally, i have never seen one do anything wrong... most are good little troopers, now their owners on the other hand....

They're just as bad as games or violent TV etc., a means to an end IF you have problems- they're pretty safe in most people's hands.

yes but the point is - most people dont even NEED a gun. i mean the whole "everyone has the right to a gun, so they can defend themself" becomes ridiculous when people use this "right" to purchase firearms to attack other people.

imo it is simply better to restrict the use of firearms, so you can only get one after getting a license, like a driver's license etc.

2dmin said:
imo it is simply better to restrict the use of firearms, so you can only get one after getting a license, like a driver's license etc.

i drive for a living, and believe me, the concept doesn't work, i would rather give guns to small children, then allow most of the USA the right to drive.

/rant

I believe that it is good to cultivate respect for life, rather than apathy towards it. I consider killing any creature for pleasure the act of a sick disposition.

That is not to say that killing a pigeon is anything like killing a person. But I still think it is wrong, unless there is a good reason.

for the most part, in my home, the rule is, you kill it, you eat it..

cuts down tremendously on the random bird slaying i assure you :wink:

you dont need a gun, yet you dont really need a lot of things... in the great scheme of it :smile:

a little bit on-topic: Force @ paintball. (camping, as usual :biggrin: )

all that tire tread left :eek:

the least you could have done was find a range that doesnt promote waste :wink:

you would rather give guns to small children that allow most people to drive a car. gg orph :razz: roflzor

2dmin said:
you would rather give guns to small children that allow most people to drive a car. gg orph :razz: roflzor

think about it, you can render the gun inoperable... people driving habits border on the criminal..

i have seen things, that would scare you to impotence.. thats no exaggeration.

I'm not sure quite what you mean, Orph. I beleive what 2dmin is talking about is gun licensing, not letting everyone in the US drive.

I think gun licensing is a great idea. In australia, I'm not exactly sure about the system, but I think we have levels of licenses, for example:

Level 1 - Hunting rifles & shotguns, for farmers, hunters, gamekeepers.
L2 - Handguns (mainly collectors, mebbe farmers)
L3 - Automatics and stuff (you need to be a registered gun collector, have a ton of permits and stuff)

The higher the level, the more permits, background checks etc. you need. This isn't accurate, btw, just an example of how you can set out this kind of thing. Of course, law enforcement and the military are separate.

Under US law, would it be legal for a civilian to own nuclear weapons, artillery guns and the like? How far does this "right to bear arms" extend?

consider this, more people die each day from cars than guns.

accident is a misnomer when it is used in the context of cars colliding.

if a meteor fell from the sky and landed on your car, THAT is an accident, when 2 or more cars meet, that has a cause, people just ignore that fact and move on as if its normal.

let someone be shot and the world is ending for sure :rolleyes:

driving permits (licenses) are a joke, the policy needs a serious overhaul, and i bet you any amount of money, if everyone took the same test i took to get my license, 50% or more of this world would never see the highway.

most people are just too stupid to drive.

Orpheus said:
consider this, more people die each day from cars than guns.

But the people own more cars than guns I assume

Kapten Ljusdal said:

Orpheus said:
consider this, more people die each day from cars than guns.

But the people own more cars than guns I assume

really, that makes a difference somehow.

some people own 10 or 20 weapons, but only 2 cars.. anyways, you can only operate one vehicle at a time, but fire multiple guns.

still at any given moment, i bet more cars are being used, but somehow i fail to see the relevance.

once you are dead, it doesn't matter how you got that way, at least to you.

But you use your car alot more often than your gun (i hope, lol). I dont think that how many guns you can fire at one time matters, if you get in a firefight, someone may still die.

we're drifting away from the discussion, i was only referring to the licensing issue that was brought up, i didn't mean to allow my biased opinion about driving influence my comment.

cars kill more people than guns and are far easier to obtain.. thats my point i guess.

Ok :smile:

My opinion is to make alcohol lock a standard, because many accidents involve drunken drivers. But I dont know how easy it is to get a license over there, so I shouldnt comment on that point.