Environment Sketch

Environment Sketch

Re: Environment Sketch Posted by Finger on Mon Jul 12th 2004 at 10:19pm
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One thing I keep telling myself, is that I need to focus more on concepting/drawing environments. I have done more characters/creatures, than I have done environments; which seems strange as concepting environments would obviously go hand in hand with mapping. I guess it's the fact that perspective drawing takes a little more thought and organization, which conflicts with my natural tendancy to make a mess right away, then pick at it till it looks good. I found that using the line tool and setting up a few paths in photoshop, were essential.

Anyway, in an attempt to push myself, I have been working on this pic. Possibly a HL2 map? who knows.

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Re: Environment Sketch Posted by Orpheus on Mon Jul 12th 2004 at 10:53pm
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from what i have seen, HL2 can handle it easilly... in fact, this thing looks smallish TBH.

nice pic though..

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Re: Environment Sketch Posted by Leperous on Mon Jul 12th 2004 at 11:42pm
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Quite a cool pic! Wish I could do that. Pretty ugly conveyor belt/wooden slat pathway in the foreground though...
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by Campaignjunkie on Mon Jul 12th 2004 at 11:48pm
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How about that's the first HL2 competition? See who can "interpret" that concept art in the best way? :smile:

Nice concept though. I agree with Lep - that wooden conveyor belt seems out of place, a bit too curvy and such compared to all the semi-angular mechanical stuff.
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by ReNo on Tue Jul 13th 2004 at 12:25am
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The foreground converyor belt looks odd, as the others said, and I
think the majority of the ground seems flat and under-developed. Other
than that this is a wonderful piece of art, certainly on par with any
piece of environmental concept art I've come across :smile:
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by Crono on Tue Jul 13th 2004 at 12:30am
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I didn't think of it as a conveyor belt ... more like a triangulated ramp for round objects .... that would explain the posts beneath it.
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by Finger on Tue Jul 13th 2004 at 12:32am
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lol...ok, unanimous 'boo' for the conveyer. Like the rest of my art/life it's still in the development process. I plan on doing more with the ground, and walkway, I just don't really know what yet. Think I'll let it bake a little longer, and finish up the frog in the meantime.
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by Orpheus on Tue Jul 13th 2004 at 12:33am
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Crono said:
I didn't think of it as a conveyor belt ... more like a triangulated ramp for round objects .... that would explain the posts beneath it.
out in the western US, they have similar looking objects that bring mountain water down to desert climes..

reno and vegas both employ such methods.
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by Finger on Tue Jul 13th 2004 at 12:34am
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Creative, Crono, but no... it was suppossed to be some type of conveyer. In hindsight, however, why the hell would a conveyer snake around like that?
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by Orpheus on Tue Jul 13th 2004 at 1:00am
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with the dry climate appearance of the picture, i believe my idea could be incorporated master finger..
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by Tracer Bullet on Tue Jul 13th 2004 at 1:37am
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The pic reminds me of "Lud" for those of you familiar with the quest for The Dark Tower :biggrin:

I like it allot. keep it up :smile:

I don't really contribute to the art forum since I'm not a 2D artist, but I love seeing what you guys produce.
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by Orpheus on Tue Jul 13th 2004 at 1:40am
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Tracer Bullet said:
I don't really contribute to the art forum since I'm not a 2D artist, but I love seeing what you guys produce.
then use 1 or 3D instead :heee:
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by Tracer Bullet on Tue Jul 13th 2004 at 1:47am
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There, see my 1337 1-D art :razz: all must bow down in praise of it! or maybe just criticize it because I should have used one more or less hyphens.

I did post a model once in the deep dark past, but I have no time for that sort of thing anymore. Maybe when I finish my book I'll post a portion of that. I don't know what that would be; maybe 25-D art with none of them being spatial :biggrin:
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by Orpheus on Tue Jul 13th 2004 at 1:51am
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i am more gifted still not only can i alter the color of your 1D art, but i can make it appear to hover :rofl:
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by G.Ballblue on Tue Jul 13th 2004 at 3:55am
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Campaignjunkie said:
How about that's the first HL2 competition? See who can "interpret" that concept art in the best way? :smile:

Nice concept though. I agree with Lep - that wooden conveyor belt seems out of place, a bit too curvy and such compared to all the semi-angular mechanical stuff.
Maybe it should be that any humongo maps that some dippy mappers made (I wonder whoo hmmmmmmm ??? :rolleyes: ) that HL couldn't handle, should be sent in to HL2 for their review :biggrin: :lol: :razz:

Hmm... Art... Sketching... brush pens... things I haven't touched in a looonngggg timmeeee

/me considers doing manga drawings again :lol:
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by Crono on Tue Jul 13th 2004 at 4:00am
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Creative?
But, that's what I thought it was :lol:

Looks good though.

Maybe replace it with some pipes partially in the dirt, or something.
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by Ferret on Tue Jul 13th 2004 at 5:16am
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the conveyor belt looks odd because all the slats almost go in the opposite direction in which due to perspective they are supposed to go.

Do I need to write a tutorial on perspective? lol

http://ferret.hl-nightwatch.net/traditionalart.php?tart2=penperspective

Not much but each line except for a few exploding debris is plotted to horizon line and vanishing points. Uses 3 point perspective with one 1 point so I keep withint the lame boundaries of the assignment.
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by Finger on Tue Jul 13th 2004 at 5:35am
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God, that looks like a perspective nightmare, Ferret! Good job on that. Show us more!

I learned the technical aspects of perspective years ago, where I actually drew out the horizon lines, and vanishing points. Now I kinda just feel my way through it (lazy). You're right though, looking at it, some of the slats do seem off. I have a feeling mr. conveyer was gonna get replaced anyway :razz:
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by Cassius on Tue Jul 13th 2004 at 5:46am
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Finger said:
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What the s**t. That's the best picture I've seen in months.
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by Crono on Tue Jul 13th 2004 at 6:35am
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actually, using that technique (which is actually the best technique we have) produces skewed effects. It distorts things that are fairly close and rather far away, at least for 1 and 2 point perspectives, which are suppose to look normal, anything higher is obviously suppose to distort the image (4 point is cool ... but a pain in the ass).
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by Ferret on Fri Jul 16th 2004 at 5:30am
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crono than widen your vanishing points. Skewing is totaly in control. My picture I had vanishing points like 48 inches or so off the page.
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by Crono on Fri Jul 16th 2004 at 6:28am
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I know, Ferret. But, that's a pain in the ass, unless you're working purely on a computer or something as such. It was just a comment, not a complaint.
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by Ferret on Sun Jul 18th 2004 at 7:29am
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:smile: just pointing it out :wink: ~
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by GrimlocK on Sun Jul 18th 2004 at 11:41pm
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Hey Finger, what resolution do you typically start your work at? Or do you prefer To work in a specific DPI and inch size? I'm just now getting back into my art, I've had a pretty crazy year so far (thats why I havn't been around much). I use a variety of resolutions when I work. What works best for you when you are working with your wacom in your graphics app? Thx
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by Finger on Tue Jul 20th 2004 at 12:23am
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Grim. It all depends, really. Most of the time, I work at about 3000x3000 pixels, if it's something nice and detailed. When I'm just sketching around, however, I usually work pretty low 800x800 pixels or so....then if it turns into something I want to detail, I will bump the resolution up and start working over it.
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by Finger on Tue Jul 27th 2004 at 11:46pm
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Not worthy of it's own thread... so I figured I would hijack my own.

- this one is just 'nuts'.

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Re: Environment Sketch Posted by ReNo on Tue Jul 27th 2004 at 11:49pm
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Haha, nice one :biggrin:
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Tue Jul 27th 2004 at 11:56pm
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Nice t-rex/donkey hybrid. Is it wearing clogs too? :biggrin:
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by Finger on Wed Jul 28th 2004 at 12:18am
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haha... yes, those were supposed to be Dutch clogs.
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by Hornpipe2 on Wed Jul 28th 2004 at 12:50am
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out in the western US, they have similar looking objects that bring mountain water down to desert climes..

reno and vegas both employ such methods.
I hear the Romans had some system like that called the "aqueducts". Seems they're pretty famous around those parts.
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by Cassius on Wed Jul 28th 2004 at 2:46pm
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Was the massive right nut really necessary?
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by Ferret on Wed Jul 28th 2004 at 2:47pm
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I came to the same conclusion. I'm hoping rather that that is the "tail"
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by $loth on Wed Jul 28th 2004 at 3:29pm
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Hornpipe2 said:
out in the western US, they have similar looking objects that bring mountain water down to desert climes..

reno and vegas both employ such methods.
I hear the Romans had some system like that called the "aqueducts". Seems they're pretty famous around those parts.
lol, aquaducts in britain have been made into railways :biggrin: Take that romans!

That pic looks like something from dr.seuss.
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by Finger on Wed Jul 28th 2004 at 4:06pm
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The massive nut was neccessary to achieve that manly love charm, that all dino-donkeys possess. Anyway, I think that evolution is phasing out the left nut. I mean, why not just have one big one?
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by ReNo on Wed Jul 28th 2004 at 4:13pm
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Having a second is like a fail-safe, its a backup device :smile:
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by $loth on Wed Jul 28th 2004 at 5:53pm
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Can't have too many back ups :smile:
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by ReNo on Wed Jul 28th 2004 at 6:24pm
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Well I dunno about that - I'm happy with 2 but I wouldn't wanna go overboard!
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by Cassius on Fri Jul 30th 2004 at 1:30am
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Keep that one in IRC ladies :lol:
Re: Environment Sketch Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Fri Jul 30th 2004 at 1:45am
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Well I dunno about that - I'm happy with 2 but I wouldn't wanna go overboard!
I just scrolled down to this and thought you were talking about maps. How wrong I was.