No errors in log file (I think) but HL crashes

Re: No errors in log file (I think) but HL crashes Posted by Amp on Tue Aug 24th 2004 at 11:12am

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I cant seam to find any errors but when I load my map in half life it crashes. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>

It manages to load the map and the textures then says "0 entities inhibited" and HL recives an ilegal opperation. <o:p></o:p>

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I did proviously have an error "Leaf portal saw into leaf" but I think I have Fixed that as it does not appear in the log.<o:p></o:p>

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P.S I do not know what the SDF::4 means<o:p></o:p>

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Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build<o:p></o:p>

Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh<o:p></o:p>

Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.<o:p></o:p>

Submit detailed bug reports to (merlinis@bigpond.net.au)<o:p></o:p>

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Command line: C:\VALVEH~1\ZTOOLS\HLCSG.EXE -nolog C:\SIERRA\Half-Life\valve\maps\DemoAmp.map <o:p></o:p>

Entering C:\SIERRA\Half-Life\valve\maps\DemoAmp.map<o:p></o:p>

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chart [ off ] [ off ]<o:p></o:p>

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Wadinclude list :<o:p></o:p>

[zhlt.wad]<o:p></o:p>

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4 brushes (totalling 24 sides) discarded from clipping hulls<o:p></o:p>

CreateBrush:<o:p></o:p>

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SetModelCenters:<o:p></o:p>

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CSGBrush:<o:p></o:p>

10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90%... (11.75 seconds)<o:p></o:p>

<o:p> </o:p>

Including Wadfile: \valve hammer editor\tools\zhlt.wad<o:p></o:p>

 - Contains 1 used texture, 0.70 percent of map (3 textures in wad)<o:p></o:p>

Using Wadfile: \sierra\half-life\valve\techbest.wad<o:p></o:p>

 - Contains 14 used textures, 9.79 percent of map (287 textures in wad)<o:p></o:p>

Using Wadfile: \sierra\half-life\valve\qevilbest.wad<o:p></o:p>

 - Contains 32 used textures, 22.38 percent of map (256 textures in wad)<o:p></o:p>

Using Wadfile: \sierra\half-life\valve\liquids.wad<o:p></o:p>

 - Contains 0 used textures, 0.00 percent of map (32 textures in wad)<o:p></o:p>

Using Wadfile: \sierra\half-life\valve\halflife.wad<o:p></o:p>

 - Contains 96 used textures, 67.13 percent of map (3116 textures in wad)<o:p></o:p>

Using Wadfile: \sierra\half-life\valve\decals.wad<o:p></o:p>

 - Contains 0 used textures, 0.00 percent of map (222 textures in wad)<o:p></o:p>

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added 15 additional animating textures.<o:p></o:p>

Texture usage is at 3.13 mb (of 4.00 mb MAX)<o:p></o:p>

26.42 seconds elapsed<o:p></o:p>

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hlbsp v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7 (<st1:date Month="12" Day="9" Year="2002">Dec 9 2002</st1:date>)<o:p></o:p>

Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build<o:p></o:p>

Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh<o:p></o:p>

Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.<o:p></o:p>

Submit detailed bug reports to (merlinis@bigpond.net.au)<o:p></o:p>

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Command line: C:\VALVEH~1\ZTOOLS\HLBSP.EXE -nolog C:\SIERRA\Half-Life\valve\maps\DemoAmp.map <o:p></o:p>

<o:p> </o:p>

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noclip [ off ] [ off ]<o:p></o:p>

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Re: No errors in log file (I think) but HL crashes Posted by Amp on Tue Aug 24th 2004 at 11:13am

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Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build<o:p></o:p>

Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh<o:p></o:p>

Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.<o:p></o:p>

Submit detailed bug reports to (merlinis@bigpond.net.au)<o:p></o:p>

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Command line: C:\VALVEH~1\ZTOOLS\HLVIS.EXE -nolog C:\SIERRA\Half-Life\valve\maps\DemoAmp.map <o:p></o:p>

 853 portalleafs<o:p></o:p>

2825 numportals<o:p></o:p>

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log [ off ] [ on ]<o:p></o:p>

developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]<o:p></o:p>

chart [ off ] [ off ]<o:p></o:p>

estimate [ off ] [ off ]<o:p></o:p>

max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]<o:p></o:p>

max vis distance [ 0 ] [ 0 ]<o:p></o:p>

priority [ <st1:City><st1:place>Normal</st1:place></st1:City> ] [ <st1:City><st1:place>Normal</st1:place></st1:City> ]<o:p></o:p>

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fast vis [ off ] [ off ]<o:p></o:p>

full vis [ off ] [ off ]<o:p></o:p>

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BasePortalVis:<o:p></o:p>

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LeafThread:<o:p></o:p>

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average leafs visible: 147<o:p></o:p>

g_visdatasize:29547 compressed from 91271<o:p></o:p>

274.84 seconds elapsed [4m 34s]<o:p></o:p>

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hlrad v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7 (<st1:date Month="12" Day="9" Year="2002">Dec 9 2002</st1:date>)<o:p></o:p>

Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build<o:p></o:p>

Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh<o:p></o:p>

Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.<o:p></o:p>

Submit detailed bug reports to (merlinis@bigpond.net.au)<o:p></o:p>

----- BEGIN hlrad -----<o:p></o:p>

Command line: C:\VALVEH~1\ZTOOLS\HLRAD.EXE -nolog C:\SIERRA\Half-Life\valve\maps\DemoAmp.map <o:p></o:p>

<o:p> </o:p>

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log [ off ] [ on ]<o:p></o:p>

developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]<o:p></o:p>

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max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]<o:p></o:p>

priority [ <st1:City><st1:place>Normal</st1:place></st1:City> ] [ <st1:City><st1:place>Normal</st1:place></st1:City> ]<o:p></o:p>

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vismatrix algorithm [ Original ] [ Original ]<o:p></o:p>

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Re: No errors in log file (I think) but HL crashes Posted by G.Ballblue on Tue Aug 24th 2004 at 12:24pm

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Try the -chart command (I beleive thats what the command is). From what your compile shows, I don't know if your RAD resources are maxed out or something. Give that a try. HL will crash when you play your map if you ever max out a specific resource of your compile tools.

Re: No errors in log file (I think) but HL crashes Posted by fishy on Tue Aug 24th 2004 at 12:48pm

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Amp said:

[size=16]<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>

P.S I do not know what the SDF::4 means

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neither do i. i've never seen it before.

but it looks like it may have something to do with the problem, as it pops up where the last 30% of the 'build facelights' should be logged.

Re: No errors in log file (I think) but HL crashes Posted by Amp on Tue Aug 24th 2004 at 1:56pm

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Ive tryed the -chart and it didn't show anything maxing out at all (biggest was 25% usage).

Re: No errors in log file (I think) but HL crashes Posted by fraggard on Tue Aug 24th 2004 at 2:52pm

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From http://cariad.co.za/twhl/glossaryinfo.php?id=158 I found:

SDF: :4 was an archaic debugging message. It occurs during BuildFaceLights, when hlrad hits an opaque face during the process of back projecting sample points during centralisation. It is not a warning or error, but rather a message which should have been excluded. It does not mean anything significant to the mapper.

Obviously, it can't be ignored since it scres up your BSP enough to make HL crash.

My suggestion: Download a different set of tools (Maybe the original ZHLT or the newer p-series). Re-Export the map and rerun the compile with both. Maybe one of them has a fix.

Re: No errors in log file (I think) but HL crashes Posted by G.Ballblue on Tue Aug 24th 2004 at 2:54pm

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fraggard said:
From http://cariad.co.za/twhl/glossaryinfo.php?id=158 I found:
SDF: :4 was an archaic debugging message. It occurs during BuildFaceLights, when hlrad hits an opaque face during the process of back projecting sample points during centralisation. It is not a warning or error, but rather a message which should have been excluded. It does not mean anything significant to the mapper.
Obviously, it can't be ignored since it scres up your BSP enough to make HL crash.

My suggestion: Download a different set of tools (Maybe the original ZHLT or the newer p-series). Re-Export the map and rerun the compile with both. Maybe one of them has a fix.

Just get P series damnit :razz: The screen clutter on your process window drops by about 70%.

Re: No errors in log file (I think) but HL crashes Posted by fizscy46 on Tue Aug 24th 2004 at 6:15pm

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HL will crash when you play your map if you ever max out a specific resource of your compile tools.

Finally, an answer to why my second G-Man level crashed after a successful compile.

Re: No errors in log file (I think) but HL crashes Posted by Spartan on Tue Aug 24th 2004 at 7:59pm

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How would you max out the resources?

Re: No errors in log file (I think) but HL crashes Posted by fizscy46 on Tue Aug 24th 2004 at 8:15pm

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Because my compy doesn't have that much in the way of resources

Re: No errors in log file (I think) but HL crashes Posted by ReNo on Tue Aug 24th 2004 at 8:21pm

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He didn't mean that, he meant run into BSP limitations I imagine (the wording doesn't make much sense otherwise). For instance, you could use up more than the max number of planes, or faces, or light patches, or clipnodes, or....

Re: No errors in log file (I think) but HL crashes Posted by Spartan on Tue Aug 24th 2004 at 8:31pm

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If you don't know what the SD4 thing is try checking it out at TommyofEscondidos.com

Re: No errors in log file (I think) but HL crashes Posted by G.Ballblue on Tue Aug 24th 2004 at 8:35pm

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ReNo said:
He didn't mean that, he meant run into BSP limitations I imagine (the wording doesn't make much sense otherwise). For instance, you could use up more than the max number of planes, or faces, or light patches, or clipnodes, or....

Check my (doh) sig for a perfect example ^^

Re: No errors in log file (I think) but HL crashes Posted by JFry on Tue Aug 24th 2004 at 11:17pm

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Hey Amp, welcome to the Snarkpit. That sure is a wierd problem you're having. If using different tools doesn't work I'd say try changing your opaque entities into normal ones. Depending on what you're trying to accomplish you can "fake" the opaque effect by putting a world brush within a func_illusionary.

Re: No errors in log file (I think) but HL crashes Posted by Amp on Wed Aug 25th 2004 at 5:23pm

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Found the problem eventually by cutting back the level.

Turns out it was being caused by my game text entities, which is odd because I got them working in a test level and copied them straight to my level.

Thanks for all your help

Re: No errors in log file (I think) but HL crashes Posted by Tracer Bullet on Wed Aug 25th 2004 at 5:29pm

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What else did you cut back on?