dod_veghel

Hey this is looking nice dude! The only thing that looked wrong to me was your env_glow sprites are way too visable. Try increasing the transparency. And in the second pic that place could stand to have some supports to break up the monotony.

Yeah, thats looking very promising can't pick out much except for the roof underside in 2nd pic looks very plain - needs some steel girders or other supports under it or something.

It does indeed look pretty nice, but it reminds me much more of a typical CS map one for DoD. There is no trace of the war which as presumably been raging for several years. Also, the buildings seem to be mostly props rather than enterable structures (although I can't know that from the screens for certain). One of the excellent trademarks of most DoD maps is that most of the buildings are enterable, providing a great verity of hiding places to snipe from or setup an MG. I think you'd best consider this in your development plans.

The only technical quibble I have is that I think your glow sprites are set at too high of a render value. Try 100-150.

It has a really bleak and dismal atmosphere to it, nice work. The sandbag wall in screenshot four doesn't look good though.

This map really reminds me of Medal Of Honor.
The only difference is, your textures aren't as high of quality.

I think If you tried some more detail on the buildings, added destruction, and got some slightly better textures (just higher resolution). This would be amazing

Yep, this is a nice DoD map ... don't post your screens at 1024* res anymore, waste of bandwith.

They're only small file sizes so the resolution doesn't matter Force.

Very nice.
just looking at the pics makes my boots feel damp.

only suggestion would be what someone else said. the curly tin roof in screen2 could do with some sort of A-frame supporting it.

Awesome. My favorite part of the war was Operation: Market Garden. If I remember correctly from my Close Combat II days Veghel was more of a small village surrounded by farms and roads built on top of dikes, which made driving tanks around insane. I always wanted to recreate something like that in DoD but never figured it out. What you have here is very nice and looks great, but I don't know if it really looks like Holland, and I especially doubt it has the same traits as the real area (if I'm correct, anyways) and that's a shame, since I think it would be rather unique compared to most DoD maps if it did. Just something to think about.

thought i'd open up a forum thread for comments/crits and beta bugs.

I like it, better than most DoD maps anyway. However, some of those textures are looking awfully familiar, as in they look like mine that I made for ferret's Splinter, as in nobody else is supposed to use them.

They look like mostly the Escape textures. I like the look, but the sky needs a bit more depth to it...it's pretty much one colour and I find it takes away from the map a bit.

Looks like a great DoD map to me. The rain is a very nice effect you
put in there. I think you should add water to any holes in the ground
from grenades or bombs. An example is picture 2; it's raining but ther
eis no water in the blown out land. In picture 4 I think you should add
some better textures to that fountain where the Allied flag stands. One
last thing I suggest is perhaps some more sandbags in pics 1 and 2 -or-
some wall vegetation .. like vines.

This map is very well made. Congrats. :smile:

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I haven't worked with modelling in a while, but I believe that's just about the limit?

thanks for your input guys. i fixed a lot of the stuff (except adding vines and changing the fountain texture). i agree, i dont like that fountain texture, but i cant find a better one, if you know of one please tell me here!

keep in mind this is beta, this is not final product. things will be changed.

beta 2 is released. new pics can be found at the link at the top of this thread.

Quite nice except for it that, inside, there appear to be glow sprites with no light fixtures behind them. Otherwise, streets could be filled up a bit more, but the buildings/building textures are quite good.

THose textures do look frightingly like splinter's cassius. If they are
i'd like you to remove them and/or replace them. Cassius would know
better though if they are ours or not. Thanks.

they are NOT his textures, i have never even seen any of his maps. the texture credits are in the text file.

Ferret said:
THose textures do look frightingly like splinter's cassius. If they are i'd like you to remove them and/or replace them. Cassius would know better though if they are ours or not. Thanks.

That's not very nice ... :sad:

This looks nice. I don't like the church though. I think churches in DoD maps have been overdone. Almost every capture style map in DoD has a church in it. It's just.. meh. But Klein makes some really cool textures.

Also, Canadians liberated Holland after several failed attempts by everybody else. Go Canada! :/

I'm fairly sure they aren't, don't worry about it. If they are, it's because some dude from DoD stole them and put them in an official WAD0, which is of course impossible.

This map has certainly come a long way. Only things I noticed in the screens was in the first one the street lamp doesn't really look "lit". I'm thinking maybe it's the texture or maybe it isn't even supposed to be lit at all, I can't really tell. In the third pic I think the supports might look a little better if they were pushed up so they run along the ceiling. Then again it doesn't look too bad like that and it might actually aid gameplay if you can get up there somehow. I'll try to play thru when I get some free time.

The edges and undersides of the roof-tops need a lot of work. The need a trim texture for the side and a more appropriate underside (not shingles).

thanks for your comments guys. gorb: yeah i've already started applying a wood texture to the bottoms of the roofs, should look better. as for the sides of the roof (the trim) can't really find good textures for it. but if i do ill fix it too. as for the sky, i've already changed it to the one i originally had (i was using the jagd sky (current sky) because the map used to be a lot darker, but now that its lightened up i think the old sky will fit in well)

Yes, veghel was a small p[lace, in these days it shouldnt be that anymore. but the lightning doesnt seem to fit the map in your screenshots, it wouldnt be a lightning you would find in holland. it looks like a desert lightning.