HALF-LIFE 2 GOLD

scary_jeff said:
And no, I refuse to be good :heee:

taps foot

jeffery!

? quoting Orpheus
that one sentence kept me away the whole 3 months last time..

And what a nice, quiet, peaceful place this was during those 3 months, Orph.

Perhaps you should consider another lengthy hiatus - and maybe this place will calm down again cuz - to me - it was very peaceful while you were away

Just recently it got ugly again...and hmmmmmmm - i wonder why???

You weren't around much during that time either DocRock :rolleyes:

DocRock said:
Just recently it got ugly again...and hmmmmmmm - i wonder why???

Perhaps the reappearance of a certain pariah is related :rolleyes:

Starts prodding Lep :smile: How long til I can play my CS:S? :wink:

Jeff, that's what I always thought too ... or least that's how it USED to be. Sold a certain amounts of copies it went Gold, then Platinum. That logic is from records I believe.

But, Yeah, it's kind of annoying. I don't understand why you can't just say "It's done and shipping". I mean, the press release would be the same length.

http://www.esrb.org/esrbratings_browseresults.asp?group=8&type=game

^^

You have to be 17 or older to buy it in the U.K.

Also, the 'gold' date doesn't really mean anything when it comes to actually being able to buy the game... look at CS:CZ.

matt - Do you actually have to be 17 these days to buy it, or is that just 'recommended?'

The shops should honour the age ratings and generally do - but you always get the occasional 12-year old in the shop boasting they have Vice City or whatever, so I guess the games slip through the cracks somehow.

Ah, wonderful. :smile: Well, not wonderful... but y'know. I'm doing a research paper on this and you just agreed with me, so... wonderful.

Right.

Actually, some stores enforce it here. Like, at Target if I buy a console game (not computer though) and it's "M", they ask for ID because their system needs the persons birth date.

However, no actual game store enforces it unless it's a game that requires that age. Like, I think EBX wouldn't sell BMXXX to people below 17. But I could be mistaken.

Not to mention, it doesn't even matter, most kids who get those game have their parents buy them for them. I know I did when I was younger.
The entire point is, the ratings shouldn't be enforced by the people selling them, but more of a warning to their parents of the content of the game.

However, people are stupid. They look at the rating and see "Mature" then look at this game about a bunny and think it's okay.

matt said:
http://www.esrb.org/esrbratings_browseresults.asp?group=8&type=game

^^

You have to be 17 or older to buy it in the U.K.

17 in the UK? BS It's 15 or 18

I think the ESRB are like the ELSPA and PEGI ratings which are more like guidelines than actual restrictions like the BBFC ratings are.

As far as i'm aware, HL2 has been rated 18 by the BBFC so all you toddlers out there will have to ask the parents to buy it for you :wink:

ReNo said:
You weren't around much during that time either DocRock :rolleyes:

Gollum said:

DocRock said:
Just recently it got ugly again...and hmmmmmmm - i wonder why???

Perhaps the reappearance of a certain pariah is related :rolleyes:

leave it be guys, i honestly think he see's it that way.. if you attack him, he will only believe i caused his problem.

just humor him, its actually the only prooven method of dealing with people with his affliction.

Crono said:
However, people are stupid. They look at the rating and see "Mature" then look at this game about a bunny and think it's okay.

Then explain to me why EB Games wouldn't sell me the Mary Kate & Ashley game.

Don't you worry little Adam, I haven't forgotten. Send me your passport so I can check you're the right age to play it, first :wink:

DocRock said:
Just recently it got ugly again...and hmmmmmmm - i wonder why???

You.

Cassius said:

DocRock said:
Just recently it got ugly again...and hmmmmmmm - i wonder why???

You.

taps foot

now cass..

Crono tries to be a smartass, but he still uses "but" to start sentences :razz:

Faux pas ahoy ;P

Gwil said:
Crono tries to be a smartass, but he still uses "but" to start sentences :razz:

Faux pas ahoy ;P

i sometimes begin a sentence with "but".. is that a pre-requisite to being a smartass?

No, it's just bad english :razz:

Gwil said:
No, it's just bad english :razz:

that, was one of those jokes that would have been ruined in lightblue :biggrin:

Spartan 34 said:
Then explain to me why EB Games wouldn't sell me the Mary Kate & Ashley game.

It's a piece of s**t?

Gwil: Bad "English"? Yes. Bad "American"? No, not really.
I've never had an issue with any instructor or book in which they or I used the word "but" to begin a sentence.

My gammer is very good. My speeling is find as to.

Orph, I like how you needlessly bitch slapped a comma in there.
:smile:

Crono said:
<DIV class=quote>
<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting Spartan 34</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>
Then explain to me why EB Games wouldn't sell me the Mary Kate & Ashley game.</DIV></DIV>

It's a piece of s**t?

Gwil: Bad "English"? Yes. Bad "American"? No, not really.
I've never had an issue with any instructor or book in which they or I used the word "but" to begin a sentence.

My gammer is very good. My speeling is find as to.

Orph, I like how you needlessly bitch slapped a comma in there.
:smile:

That, was a perfect example of nonstandard punctuation used for great dramatic effect.

And yes, in general I don't think it is proper to start a sentence with "but". Oh people do it all the time when they are speaking or in duologue in books, but not in other forms of writing. Being that what we use here is entirely dilogue... I think Gwil's point may be on shaky ground.

Bad "American"? No

There is no such language as American :heee:

Technically, that's why I put it in quotes.
Basically, the only difference is slang that're used and certain spellings and rules.

Gwil said:
No, it's just bad english :razz:

I thought you of all people would know that the appropriate style of English writing depends on the writer's audience and the effect that he wants to achieve :razz:

Some rules, such as the "never start a sentence with a conjunction" rule, are often applied too dogmatically.

It is interesting to contrast the uses of "but" and "and". Most people agree that using "and" to start a sentence is much worse than using "but". And if you look in a dictionary, one reason for this becomes clear. "And" is a pure conjunction, whereas "but" has developed into a conjunction in modern usage. "But" is an adverb, conjunction, preposition and a negative relative pronoun!

Of course, it is good to be aware of these rules. It is better to break a "rule" of grammar with deliberate purpose, than to break it through ignorance.

Indeed, it is good to be aware of the rules and try to adhere them
rigorously (something which, by my own admission, I don't do.) As T_B
points out, it's not really an issue on the internet, which does have
it's own "dialogue", as such.

The issue is only important in my eyes when people right intelligent,
in depth academic papers - yet have sentences opened with "for example"
or "but/and". It just looks sloppy, more than anything else :smile:

edit: I also like to jibe Crono because he is a learned young chap, gets into an intellectual kafuffle at the slightest provocation :wink:

I've just received a small present from myself: The Elements of Style by Strunk and White. I am very much looking forward to this quietly legendary book; for now, here is a relevant quote from the formidable Professor Strunk:

<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
It is an old observation, that the best writers sometimes disregard the rules of rhetoric. When they do so, however, the reader will usually find in the sentence some compensating merit, attained at the cost of the violation. Unless he is certain of doing as well, he will probably do best to follow the rules.

[/quote]

Gollum said:
I've just received a small present from myself:

actually, i rather enjoyed this part more..

enjoy the read mike.. nothing beats a great book :smile:

I've just received a small present from myself: The Elements of Style by
Strunk and White. I am very much looking forward to this quietly
legendary book; for now, here is a relevant quote from the formidable
Professor Strunk:

<blockquote style="margin-right: 0px;" dir="ltr">
It is an old observation, that the best writers sometimes disregard the rules of rhetoric. When they do so, however, the reader will usually find in the sentence some compensating merit, attained at the cost of the violation. Unless he is certain of doing as well, he will probably do best to follow the rules.

[/quote] I guess that's the big sticking point really - say in the example we
discussed, we can still be sure that the rest of the text is mostly
valuable/worthwhile writings. Sounds like an interesting book, if a
little challenging to turn it into a bedtime/hot chocolate read :razz:

me sticks to history

Leperous said:
Don't you worry little Adam, I haven't forgotten. Send me your passport so I can check you're the right age to play it, first :wink:

errr...passport...I think it's still at my parents house :wink: Tis my 26th birthday on Tuesday though if that counts for anything - so if anyone is in the Chesterfield area on Friday, drop by the Green Room :smile:

Most parents don't understand what the ESRB ratings are for so a lot of young kids are able to have their parents buy them games like GTA. I wish parents would pay attention to what their kids play. I am tired of putting up with 8 year olds on CS.