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This is looking very interesting - funky lighting that suits the architecture

The third screenie has a bajillion light sources and not really all that much light. Still looks good though. ;/

Amazing what a nice texture job can do, isn't it?

There is a few pictures on my map page and more (old and new) at the natural-selection forum thread below:

http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=81580

Although to make it easier, here is links to the "more final" pictures:

http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/uploads//post-4-1096617028.jpg

http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/uploads//post-4-1096617126.jpg

http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/uploads//post-4-1098037499.jpg

http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/uploads//post-4-1098037582.jpg
(added white light to that in between wall to wall on the floor,
although not yet uploaded a pic of that version)

http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/uploads//post-4-1098468269.jpg

http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/uploads//post-4-1098468400.jpg

http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/uploads//post-4-1098027147.jpg

Praise and most importantly constructive criticism is wanted.

EDIT: Note at time of this post the middle picture on the maps profile
has been changed and will be replaced with a newer "more final" picture
in the future.

Nice I like the 3rd pic most of all. I have noticed that the gurders that are attached to the grating are just hanging right on to the grating itself. I suggest you have them attach to the edge or have a bar that goes under the grating and then attaches to the cables for more realism. Other than that it looks good. How long have you been working on it? I hope to play it good luck.

as said, the lighting is fabulous. Keep up the good work

Really nice work, I agree the lighting is excellent. Also I like how much depth you've added to the ceilings. The last three screens (links) look pretty WIP and boxy, but I'm sure you'll fix that up. Hope it plays as good as it looks.

nice... first 4 pics are lighting and atmosphere the way its meant to be. the way you only once a while come across in other maps. you are imo obviously a great lighting artist, just verify that you match your architecture with your lighting. in pic 4 there is an asymmetric lighting, yet the ceiling show symmetrically placed lights

i truly like screen #3, but.. as was once said, when a mapper has only a series of hallways to show us.. well, lets just say its best to wait..

its not bad looking halls, but its really only halls, if you get my drift :/

thursday- said:
http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/uploads//post-4-1096617126.jpg

http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/uploads//post-4-1098037582.jpg

TBH I don't like it much except for these two shots. The first one of those two is just beautiful, but the second is good but not quite as cool as the other. The rest feels cramped and while the lighting is good, I'm seeing very little in the architecture department. It may just be that the screens were taken in an unflattering way, but that's what I see.

The lighting and texturing are good, but the 'dimensions' are not; the rooms seem very small, very apart from the grand scale most NS maps project. Raise the roofs (please, no-one take this comment literally), lower the floors, create a sense that the player is part of something much more large and grand than his immediate location.

Replies in order of name:

Spartan34: Working about 3 hours a week for 3 weeks.

Orpheus: As the map is planned to be rather large this is kind of the
"middle" section which provides routes out of the inner map to the rest
of the map and make it easier to get to a desired location.

Tracer: I suppose I could spice the flooring up, although there will be
a vent or two at the top of that large room and the area is designed to
focus on the pipes and "machine" like thing rather than the rest of the
room. I'll try and sort something out though.

Cassius: Small design to create a sense of claustraphobia. Its designed
to weaken the Onos and strengthen the Skulk, although with it the long
simple corridors also allow the marines to pick off any 'unskillful'
sklulks.

all i meant was, its better not to post a map, or screens till you have more than halls to show..

think on it this way.. unofficially, a person has like a time limit on how long it takes for the snarkpit to get tired of looking at a map, unless that map is forking incredable..

if you post to soon, people will just go "bleh" and move on..

if you want the best sort of feedback, give them the best sort of images to comment on..

thats just my opinion of course.. for what its worth.

I don't know if you play Ns or not, Orph, but most of it is corridors really.

scary_jeff said:
I don't know if you play Ns or not, Orph, but most of it is corridors really.

no, i don't.. i will shut up then..

sorry, my bad :sad:

No I'm not saying you are totally wrong... there are always proper rooms for the hives and the marine start, and usually a couple of other small rooms (usually a room of some kind if their is a place with 2 resource nodes).

Hmm, think I'll play NS now :smile:

thursday- said:
Cassius: Small design to create a sense of claustraphobia. Its designed to weaken the Onos and strengthen the Skulk, although with it the long simple corridors also allow the marines to pick off any 'unskillful' sklulks.

I meant create the illusion of space, not necessarily more physical space.

thursday- said:
Cassius: Small design to create a sense of
claustraphobia. Its designed to weaken the Onos and strengthen the
Skulk, although with it the long simple corridors also allow the
marines to pick off any 'unskillful' sklulks.

I meant create the illusion of space, not necessarily more physical space.

Remind me never to argue criticism on the Snarkpit forums ever again, I always lose.

Although there is alot of transperencies in floor and on ceilings etc. to create the illusion of a bigger room.

thursday- said:
Remind me never to argue criticism on the Snarkpit forums ever again, I always lose.

Although there is alot of transperencies in floor and on ceilings etc. to create the illusion of a bigger room.

i will remind you to read closer as well. :biggrin: ..

cassius didn't say illusion of a bigger "room", he said illusion of more "space" as in, looking out a window to an unreachable area.. alcoves with lights,accentual lighting can make areas seem larger.... illusion of space, doesn't mean bigger rooms.

I'm not liking it much, honestly. Shot 2 really turns me off - the ceiling is the onl interesting part here. Walls are just totally bland. Put some better trim between them and the floor, or run pipes under the floor or something. Put a frame around that doorway. Air vents. Wall hanging crap. Whatever. The other door in the distance could be recessed too, if that might help. It looks sort of painted on right now.