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                        Oh ok, well those 2 levels shown at E3 must have been the entire game (because obviously everything Valve made was stolen)- where did you get these pics?
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Half-Life 2 Leak
                        Posted by Vash on 
    Tue Oct 14th 2003 at 10:49pm
                     
                    
                        
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                        Er, no, help Valve please mkay- Lep.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Half-Life 2 Leak
                        Posted by Yak_Fighter on 
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                        :rolleyes:
All those pictures look like they came from the same section of one map...unless of course all of HL2 is based in a city harbor.
Wow, it sure is a good thing this hacker stole the game, otherwise we would have never known Valve's devious plans... remember, Gabe Newell started out working at Microsoft, I'm certain we can weave a tale where Valve is going to make HL2 X-Box only or delayed it so that it to only be shipped with copies of the new version of Windows (longhorn?). I hope the hacker can shed light on this plot as well!
PS:  Stop spreading the damn leak.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Half-Life 2 Leak
                        Posted by Orpheus on 
    Tue Oct 14th 2003 at 11:06pm
                     
                    
                        
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                        as i said, at this point i couldn't care less for the reasons, they are not nearly as important as my desire to own HL2.. leaks, theft, delays.. f**k it all... I WANT MY COPY DAMNIT :biggrin:
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Half-Life 2 Leak
                        Posted by Gorbachev on 
    Wed Oct 15th 2003 at 1:39am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
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                        I'm not supporting s**t like this, I don't want some half-assed leak, I want the proper HL like the developers were planning on finishing.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Half-Life 2 Leak
                        Posted by Vash on 
    Wed Oct 15th 2003 at 1:59am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        Gor, I know how you feel. But recently phl or somebody has been saying that this leak and such has f**ked up Hl2 so much, it might not ever be released.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Half-Life 2 Leak
                        Posted by Tracer Bullet on 
    Wed Oct 15th 2003 at 2:18am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
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                        That?s a pretty nonsensical statement Vash. I think you and many others are overreacting in a big way. Yes it?s bad that their code was stolen, but you?ve forgotten one thing, Valve is out to make MONEY just like all corporations. Why in heaven would they choose not to release a game that is guaranteed to be a best seller? Likewise lying to the community as a publicity stunt would also be a completely profitless thing to do, and therefore about as plausible as cold fusion.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Half-Life 2 Leak
                        Posted by Vash on 
    Wed Oct 15th 2003 at 2:26am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        Yes, very good point. But, I am not over-reacting exactly. I am just showing people some pictures that they probally havent seen, and downloading HL2 because I want it....Badly :biggrin:
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Half-Life 2 Leak
                        Posted by Thylacine on 
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                        I have no quams in saying I have the leak, I got on an irc XDCC.
I have now deleted it, because it is rather useless. No level is complete, even the e3 levels are just "shopfronts". The part they showed you was complete, but if you step out the back it is a mess, this is why it wasn't a playable demo at e3.
The biggest indicator that it wont harm valve though, is that nothing in any of the levels stolen gives away the storyline, other than C17 seems to be in futuristic Russia.
There are no complete scripted scenes, with many having the sound recording complete, but the characters just stand there, and wlk to where their queue positions are to say their lines.
The physics are damn cool, but to be honest, it still feels HL1-ish... which I guess is a good thing, seeing that it is a sequel :razz:
There is even more silly little jumpy things which I have trouble shooting, grrrr...
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Half-Life 2 Leak
                        Posted by mazemaster on 
    Wed Oct 15th 2003 at 4:22am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
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                        ROFL at that transcript vash.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Half-Life 2 Leak
                        Posted by Bewbies on 
    Wed Oct 15th 2003 at 5:34am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        seeing as how im also a part of the 'empire', just as thylacine is... i can say that i agree totally. There is only one map that is worth playing for enjoyment (the coast level with the buggy that you all have seen..)
I havn't deleted mine, though... mapping for hl2 is fully functional (after some tweaking i did..). And having a custom map on the day of the release will serve a real advantage in distribution! This leak can't possibly affect the future sales of the game, and can't hurt valve - no, scratch that... if anything, it will give people an extra jump on making maps and mods. And i dunno if anyone knows half-life 1's secret to success.. but it's in mods. The consumer pool has only grown bigger and bigger since its release, and that is due to the constant tweaking and modding.
So.. i know the bulk of you will disagree - but, in short, the leak can only help valve.
(pleeeease dont get me wrong, though... i seriously do have a splinter in my conscience about using the leak.)
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Half-Life 2 Leak
                        Posted by mazemaster on 
    Wed Oct 15th 2003 at 6:13am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
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                        Valve ought to release the new hammre right about now anyways...
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Half-Life 2 Leak
                        Posted by Vash on 
    Wed Oct 15th 2003 at 11:48pm
                     
                    
                        
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                        First the Half-Life 2 leak, and then the release of future steam ideas.
Valve isnt really looking out, eh?
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Half-Life 2 Leak
                        Posted by Gorbachev on 
    Thu Oct 16th 2003 at 12:09am
                     
                    
                        
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                        It was all together, they were targeted, nothing is 100% secure. Especially promoting this doesn't help, it's part of the problem. If they revealed too much then there'd be no interest anymore, if they don't reveal enough people bitch about it and it ends up being targeted for theft from people too impatient and greedy enough to wait. As much as a "jump" you're getting on having maps ready for release on a game that was pushed back to April as opposed to waiting until Christmas...wow, big jump! In fact wait, that's backwards! It's the same deal with the DoD v1.0 release, it was delayed almost a day because the official mirrors couldn't access the file because a small group of idiots got ahold of the original host ftp meaning that high bandwidth official servers couldn't host the file and a handful of idiots took up the space so instead of 1000s of people getting the game right away, the handful got it. Yeah, good job guys, good thinking, keep it up, this way people are going to want to make more games for you in the future.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Half-Life 2 Leak
                        Posted by Juim on 
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                        Quite frankly, I'm a bit (no, make that very) disappointed with anybody who downloads and or distributes the stolen files, especially any regulars from around here. I don't care if it gives you a leg up on any aspect of HL2, it's F***ed up. You probably say to yourself "I'll just get it for myself, and won't distribute it", or, "it IS incomplete after all so who cares?".
The  "I WANT IT NOW! " attitude sounds very much like a spoiled brat having a tantrum. By downloading any aspect of this you ARE aiding in the distribution of it, and helping to muck it up for the rest of us who are waiting patiently to go get it at retail prices when it's released.I swear, I'll never understand the double standards people set for themselves.Bitching about how valve was screwed by hackers, then going to their favorite pirate website and downloading the darn thing.
Yes steam sucks, yes Valve handled the whole thing poorly, and yesy HL2 is now gonna be reeeeeeeal late in being released. So what!. Steam is getting better, (albeit slowly), Valve is gonna finish the game and when it does come out, its gonna rock.Be an adult and just wait for it. You'll be satisfied I'll wager, and we'll all have several more years of mapping madness at our hands then, no sooner.
I'm done now,
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                        Re: Half-Life 2 Leak
                        Posted by Gorbachev on 
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                        Flaming? Hell, I got a water tower here for you.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                
                    
                        Re: Half-Life 2 Leak
                        Posted by scary_jeff on 
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                        I can't see any normal person downloading the leak and then not buying the game. If Orph downloads it, he will still buy the game, he is just curious.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Half-Life 2 Leak
                        Posted by Gollum on 
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                        sniff  Orph doesn't steal the HL2 source code because he is too busy helping starving children in Africa.  Doesn't that just inspire you?
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Half-Life 2 Leak
                        Posted by KoRnFlakes on 
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                        bleh, last I heard the so called "leak" was so old & useless that it had no actor system, the pheromones didnt work & it didnt even have all the textures. Its a thrown together thieved piece of s**t, wait until the game comes out tbh lads.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Half-Life 2 Leak
                        Posted by Vash on 
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                        To me, the Half-Life2 leak is considerd a buggy demo that I can at least see and try until they release the game and of course I buy it.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Half-Life 2 Leak
                        Posted by Adam Hawkins on 
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                        Too big a d/l, even if I wanted to. But Valve still need to get their arse in gear and stop flogging CS to death.
I'd rather wait for the real article - but then i'm a bit stupid like that, all my games, cds, dvds etc are originals. Just something good about having it in its proper packaging etc. and not some scummy CD-R with scrawled writing on it that's gonna go transarent if you leave it out in the sun :wink:
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Half-Life 2 Leak
                        Posted by 2dmin on 
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                        heh, apparently the leaked version is 1.4 gigs, yet it's only around 2 levels from what I hear. I think gorbachev and orph are right to be disgusted, by downloading it and "trying it out" before the game you are part of the group of people who stole it, hence delaying the release of the game. the only upshot of this is that by april next year my comp will be fully loaded and so i'll be able to play it without agony :smile: ... but still. guys ....
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Half-Life 2 Leak
                        Posted by Adam Hawkins on 
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                        Makes me worry how much money i've spent over the years on music (probably enough to buy a house!). Ah well, not like i've got anything better to be spending it all on :wink:
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Half-Life 2 Leak
                        Posted by KoRnFlakes on 
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                        I often only buy a game if im thoroughly impressed with it, or it has mod capabilities.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Half-Life 2 Leak
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                        I'm sorry if i 'dissapointed you', but don't go and assume you know my reasons. Ever since i waited in line at E3 for a good 3 hours to see the hl2 demo, I could only imagine modding for the game. It made me sooo happy that it was relased on sept 30th - I literally counted down the days. Was i jones'n to play the game? yes. But i respect valve enough to keep my hands off their stolen property if it meant to only 'throw a tantrum'. Yes, i was pissed off about the released date being pushed back - everyone was.
This leak is 1.4gb, but only about a third of that can actually be seen in any of the playable maps... why would i want to play that? That's just stupid. BUT... i was told that you could get the new Hammer working. To tell the truth, i had given mapping for hl2 a lot more thought than playing hl2. (im sure SOME of you have, as well.)
Curiosity drove me to dl the leak, and inspiration drove me to keep using the new hammer. The mentality of "i'm a little kid, i dont want to wait in line" may apply here - but i wanted to reach the front of the line for much different reasons than all the other kids =/
Valve has secured me as a DEFINATE buyer of hl2 :razz:
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Half-Life 2 Leak
                        Posted by Bewbies on 
    Fri Oct 17th 2003 at 4:16am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        If i'm going to, it'll be a slightly extensive group of screenshots and mini-tutorials... so i'de rather not put snarkpit in jeopardy for the sake of a few people. I WILL BE GLAD TO... pending mr. leppy allows it.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Half-Life 2 Leak
                        Posted by Bewbies on 
    Fri Oct 17th 2003 at 8:20pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        kk then ill get to work on something for ya orph  ; )