The Quick and the Dead

nice. i never realised there were teams specialising in this. I kinda
suspected they did it segmented, but still, really impressive. You guys
also use running scripts etc ?

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These words are my diaries screaming out loud

Yes, a bunnyhopping script which essentially spams the jump button. It
is pretty much essential for flying and for doing the more complex
tricks in the run.

Some might think it makes the run easier, but on the contrary it opens
the door for far more complex tricks than would be possible for
bhopping by hand. Not to mention,
bunnyhopping is so frequent and tedious for speedrunning HL2 that there
isn't much wow factor in simply seeing someone jump ad nauseum,
stumbling frequently.

Jumping by itself isn't very impressive, but handling insane speeds,
finding interesting and undiscovered new routes, and being able to use
a whole series of new and difficult tricks makes for good viewing :smile:

I don't see anything wrong with running scripts, as long as the runner
stays within the boundary of what's possible. And by that I mean
no no_clip or all_ammos.

It's pushing the gameplay to its limit, and a lot of ingenuity goes into the runs.

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"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return." -- Toulouse-Lautre, Moulin Rouge

Also, Marshmellow wasn't running a script, and even for being manual
bunnyhopping it wasn't that good. Once you see the final movie for the
< 1:45 run (or just watch the demos), you'll definitely see the
difference in speed ;P

I recently watched Marsh's 2:15 run again just to see what it looked
like, and it felt like I was watching a cripple limping through a
marathon. I had to close it early.

If you know how to run demos in HL2, here's a taste of what's to come...

http://zombie.bhdnet.com/b5k/hl2crap/p2_d2_coast_05_kitsune_25s.zip

The file named "p2_d2_coast_05_kitsune_25s.dem" is the one you want.

Holy Christ! I dunno what all the files were for.....but I watched p2_d2_coast_05_kitsune_25s.dem

And it was pretty damn cool. Also, I watched all of satchmos demos, and those were wicked too.

I know thse are real....but....HOW THE f**k DO you climb up walls with
a crowbar and a computer? And how do you run/jump so fast? It
seems about twice as fast as I can run and jump....seems
illogical...just have to assume its all real......

edit: I just had to watch that clip like 5 times to believe my eyes.

In HL2, if you jump as soon as you touch the ground, you gain speed. If
you jump every single time you hit the ground, you keep gaining speed.
Over enough space you gain a LOT of speed. This is called bunnyhopping
:smile:

I haven't watched the custom map demos, but I'm assuming you mean
flying. There is no need for the crowbar, I'm guessing it was just in
his hands. Flying is a useful bug in HL2. If you grab and object, put
it at your feet (still holding it), walk on top of it and then quickly
jump, the object will follow you up. Then you can jump midair again,
and the object will follow again. Keep doing this fast enough and you
have flight. It's not like noclipping at all, and in fact controlling
flight (gliding, landing, climbing, hovering, etc) is pretty
complicated. Flat objects work best.

Wallclimbing is a variation of flying, and it works when you press a
small, usually round object against a wall and gain maximum vertical
speed, using a combination of jump/pulling, the same method as flying.
It feels like you're rolling up the wall, not just bumping up
it, which is still considered (bad) flying. Wallclimbing works best
with small, cylindrical objects, rather than flat objects like flying.

Meh, a little part of me just died when I just read that Valve implemented (there really is no other term for it at this point) bunnyhopping in HL2.

It's what made (the old) CS such a great game :razz: (not!)!

someone completed HL1 in 30 mins flat.

45 minutes*

There is no 30 minute HL1 run that I know of. Link me if you know
otherwise, but I'm fairly positive 45 minutes is the lowest right now,
otherwise the HL1 running community would have heard of it ;/