How would you describe yourself during your schooldays?

Basing this survey on what we call "teen movies", to which category do you feel that you belong? Of course your status has probably changed over the years (that's my case for sure), but over all, how do you describe yourself?

I know a lot about computers, and whenever there's a question about them, I'm usually the one solving it, but it doesn't really make me feel like a nerd.

Forceflow said:
I know a lot about computers, and whenever there's a question about them, I'm usually the one solving it, but it doesn't really make me feel like a nerd.

It does to me :razz: I'm always the one getting asked about computer problems and questions

Yet im also a punk/goth but not a 'bad boy' ciggerte smoker townie.

Er, I'm a computer geek who's quite athletic and fairly normal

I'm not sure what to vote for. I was pretty much a normal guy who most people thought was cleverer than I actually was. I didn't have a computer until I was 15/16, so I didn't get a chance to fall into the geek category. I suppose you could have said I was a maths geek, but it's not like I sat around talking about maths all day.

I think I'll vote normal citizen, as my life didn't revolve around one particular thing,

I voted for bad boy/ gothic but I meant to vote for extreme bad boy cause thats me w00!

Really tho I fit into all of those categories in one way or another except maybe the normal person one.

Neo-Nazi and Punk aren't the same thing dammit!

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As for the poll, I'm the quiet new guy who gets laid at the end of the movie. Or at least I'd like think I do. :sad:

What are you talking about, Kain? You can plainly see that new-age, pointless hatred based in a localized belief in a horrible individual is exactly the same as corperate revolution. geez

I don't think I fit any of the catagories ... why isn't 'movie extra' on the list?
And how many 'teen flicks' have you seen with neo nazis??

I think it would be easier to compare your self to a teen movie rather then a personality, based on the movies theme.

(Breakfast Club vs. Heathers)

Where's the "I don't fit into any category, Bitches!" category?

Normal citizen. Usually I just blend into the background. Usually I listen to conversations, rather than take part in them... but I'm not able to be classed in any other category I would think.

Oh crap, I just remembered, today I programmed a VB module for complex number operations. Oh well, too late to change my vote now :dorky:

mmm I guess this poll is kind of dumb after all. The characters we see in a classic teen movie (like let's say "10 things I know about you" if I can recall the title) are caricatural extremes of a type of people; in reality, people are much more complex. Like usually, intellectuals are not interested in sports, but there are exceptions (e.g:Lep). And there's the physical type, people who are usually richer than the average, so they don't give a s**t about studies, and invest themselves in sports, but this is also caricatural...coz poor people can also not give a s**t about studies.

as for the neo-nazi and punk (don't exactly know what a punk is Kage)...i meant the extreme undisciplined (like if you steal for example the skeleton from the anatomy course, and you use it for a ritual celebration at midnight, you probably belong to that category).

I believe I was a nerd until the last two years when I became a moderate "bad guy" (I wasn't a part of the skeleton theft) :smile:

Kain said:
"10 things I know about you" if I can recall the title

And there's the physical type, people who are usually richer than the average, so they don't give a s**t about studies, and invest themselves in sports, but this is also caricatural...coz poor people can also not give a s**t about studies.

1. its ten things i hate about you, my girl friends made me watch it last nite :razz:

2. I know plenty off 'rich' people who do give a sh*t about thier studies, but your right about the poor people, at my school they don't give a sh*t about there studies, they are more insterested in smoking puff and bunking.

I'd have thought more typical stereotypes are the following...

Trendys (typically the stars of teen films, pretty popular, at all the parties)

Jocks (all out sporty versions of trendys, typically the people geeks are afraid of due to bullying in films)

Geeks (self-explanatory for all of us no doubt)

Goths / Punks / Alternatives (the "different" crowd, and no I'm not
claiming punks and goths are the same, I could be classed as punk in
ways but no way goth!)

Neds / Townies / Troublemakers (wastes of space, if anyone on this
website is a ned or townie, I'll lose all respect for them :biggrin: People
who wear crappy tracksuits, spit at other people, start fights when
they want ton and so on)

Of course the truth is people are very rarely so readily pidgeon holed.
I'd class myself as the geek of my social circle, but I hang out with a
popular crowd and am in no way alienated because I like
computers....even if they do get the occasional jest in about my chosen
profession :smile: I also listen to punk / ska music, and skateboard and
rollerblade, so could be somewhat classed as one of the "punks" since
I've got good friends in the closest our town has to that group.

i was a bit of a black sheep during my school days. which was in an age where saying 'black sheep' (amongst other fictional nursery rhyme characters) didn't have a mob of loony-libbers wanting to burn you at the stake for racism. the school eventualy sent me to see a shrink, to see if he could work out why i wasn't performing as well as they thought i should. he done his shrink thing, gave me a few tests, claimed i had a genius i.q., and would be driving a rolls-royce by the time i was 21. for some reason this really bugged the teachers that i liked to bug. these tended to always be the ones that had that aura of 'i'm a superior being, your a turd'.

anyways, i lay back and waited for my roller. the f**ker never showed. :sad:

so let that be a lesson to the young 'uns out there that want to go fishing instead of going to school. you might catch a nice fish, but it can be a long walk home.

Intellectual rebel who liked to coast. I think that's how the teachers would describe it, anyhow :biggrin:

Liked or known by most in my year, although there was slight resentment because of my extreme laziness yet ability to achieve. My lunchtimes were spent leaving the school property to listen to Nirvana tapes and smoke cigarettes and drink Budweiser. And then on the other hand I was also an IT systems admin with my geek friend. I struck a fine balance :razz:

so basically, none of the options... I was me.

edit: amen to what fishy said - if the teachers think you are gifted, or exceptionally bright and could sweep the "academic board"... please, please do some work :smile:

ability = good/average level of success.

ability + effort = unbeatable level of success.

(don't exactly know what a punk is Kage)

If you don't know what something is, don't freakin' compare it to neo-nazism. And for crying out loud, neither one of them is going to steal a skeleton for a weird midnight ritual.

Punks are usually typified by their outlandish clothing and hair, and are usually associated with anarchism and so forth, and listen to a lot of punk music (the term itself was used to describe the huge uproar of angry, fast rock and roll that appeared during the late 60s and 70s). While I'm not trying to say all self-proclaimed punks are like that, they are pretty much the opposite of neo-nazism.

A Neo-Nazi is essentially a Nazi. A nazi beleives in facism, and most neo-nazis are associated with anti-semetic political views. Grouping these two together is like linking opposite ends of a political spectrum i.e. they have such opposing views, poltically and well as socially, that's it's mind-boggling you can consider them to be the same sort of person.

But like KFS said, neither are members of some odd cult who perform midnight rituals. Why didn't you just say "troublemaker"?

I had to go with "Normal Citizen" I suppose... I'm athletic, I went to a Catholic grade/high school (I'm not that religious, but it would probably fit the Catholic/Boyscout one since the path of least resistance in high school was surface-conformity (so I appeared to be a good little church-boy)), my own mother calls me a nerd, I smoke, and occasionally listen to punk.

So...

True?

/down with stereotypes and cliche cliques!

I put down normal, couldn't be further from the truth though.

And Goths are just ugly and stupid, or at least all of them I've met or even seen. I have never read good goth poetry, despite the mass of it being made, and never seen a good looking goth chick. So there.

I'd say RELATIVELY normal, with a strong sense of humor (a very cruel and evil one).

ReNo said:
Neds / Townies / Troublemakers (wastes of space, if anyone on this website is a ned or townie, I'll lose all respect for them :biggrin: People who wear crappy tracksuits, spit at other people, start fights when they want ton and so on)

I am with you all the way ReNo :biggrin:

edit: amen to what fishy said - if the teachers think you are gifted, or exceptionally bright and could sweep the "academic board"... please, please do some work :smile:

Definatly! If i hadn't started paying more attention instead of sleeping and reading comics and computer mags then i wouldn't of been able to sweep through the exams i've done so far [P.E. science and to a certain extent english]. If you have potential then why waste it. damn! i sound like my mum! :eek:

and never seen a good looking goth chick.

In brighton there are many of them.

All the goths I've encounted and know are very nice, intelligent people, and are very rarely melodramatic. And none of them write poetry. :smile: They just listen to a lot of black/death metal. But still, the ones covered in make-up are very unnattractive.

The goths i know are all freaks.

And Goths are just ugly and stupid, or at least all of them I've met or even seen. I have never read good goth poetry, despite the mass of it being made, and never seen a good looking goth chick. So there.

I've seen one good looking goth chick, but she ruined it with a haircut that looked like total ass. Believe it or not, she was actually gorgeous otherwise. Damn shame she had to go destroy it :razz:

Angsty poetry or writing is all crap anyway, goth or not. Always written by someone who thinks they know how to write 'profound' things and that what they think even matters. Boo-hoo, no one likes me. Maybe because you're more cookie-cutter than the so-called cut-outs you're trying to rebel against! sigh

I'm no punk, but I love the genre of music. And even though I don't fall into the definition of a punk person, I find a lot of aspects of it (particularly the unity concept) really appealing and really interesting. Of course, it's degraded to a fashion trend and people running around being jackasses: "you're a poser!" "No you're a poser!" "No, you're BOTH poseurs, and I used a French word, so I'm cooler than you!" Sickening, really. Last I checked, it was about bringing people together on a common denominator; under a common flag. Guess that proves how little I know :razz:

I've seen good looking goth chicks, but most aren't appealing. I go for cute girls, typically goth girls are anything but cute!

Goths, punks all a bunch of leftie pinko commies.

Everybody I've ever met says they've seen one hot goth chick - I've seen a hot girl that thought she was goth but wasn't; I think part of the criteria is that you are ugly to begin with.

Cassius said:
Everybody I've ever met says they've seen one hot goth chick - I've seen a hot girl that thought she was goth but wasn't; I think part of the criteria is that you are ugly to begin with.

exactly :razz: they only write angst poems because theyre generally ugly and no-one likes them.. so they exacercebate (SP!?!!?) problem further by deliberately alienating themselves from anyone...

as for the commies comment, i;d bet most punks/goths/rockers of nowadays wouldn't know the difference between right and left if it hit them in the face.

remember, all they are trying to do is not be "another clone"... - to achieve this they wear what everyone else does and listen to what everyone else listens to. its usually people with low intellects struggling to find an identity for themselves. society gives them one :razz:

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Loth, your gf has good taste; this movie is actually a modern adaptation of Shakespeare's "The Taming of the Shrew". They kept even the names Bianca (the nice sister), and Katherine (the shrew).

KFS, if the use of the word nazi was offending, then I apologize. I understand from the syntax of your post that it pissed you off. In this part of the world nazism is not very shocking, so I used it without thinking. It's not impossible to hear in a speech by a Hezbollah leader "Hitler, that great hero"... so..

That being said, I think the general opinion on Goths is kind of harsh; I don't think they do it just "to be cool". Adopting this dark look is often the result of an inner wound. It's not cool to be twisted; but some people are. Family problems? Quest for identity? Many reasons can cause that. The reason why I defend them is coz I was madly in love with a goth girl, very smart, very beautiful, but also very weird... Sad and disconnected from the outside world. She told me about Sonic Youth; that's a great band!

Who said it was a quest to be cool? Goths are from cool :razz:

Misreading, misquoting and arguing on such points is the scourge of the internet!

BTW: most people will have course realised that (bar the new york dolls "school" of punk, british punk started it all - and quite a large majority were fascists/loved brawling and were about as far from the left wing as you could get...

:rolleyes:

I think you should make another one that says
( dont care, never will do )

<DIV>Agreed on the part of intelligent but lazy. My friends and I constantly achieve 95% or more when we put in effort, which we usually do, now that Will (once the top of the class) has made such an example. Still smart, just bloody lazy, and addicted to PC.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I voted for Normal, though I know I'm leaning somewhere between that and Computer Nerd. I know i once would've fit into the latter, but have recently developed a strong dislike for computing whenever there is anything more social to do. And yes, I'm another one like Lep, addicted to sport (GO REDBALL!!! - a nice sport we invented where the ball doesn't START red...). And then you add my love of Metallica's music... where am I?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Spose my class was a little... different... though. Was at a small school, class of 50. Somehow, 22 of us were up for recruitment to our frequent LANs...</DIV>

without actually reading this whole thread.. which i might do later.. the choices are extremely dedicated to now times..

/me waves to you all cos I haven't been here in a while cos Ive been sunning it in Florida

any way i wouldnt say that I was a neard cos I hang aroung with all the people that like football (socre (sp?)) but I know a bit about computers aswell.

Soccer, and welcome back. :smile:

I think that the best way to describe the way we are at school is with fuzzy logic. In fuzzy logic, you use percentages to show your inclusion in different categories. They can add up to more than 100 percent. This kind of representation is usually used in AI, but I think it would provide the best representation of a perceived personality.

Here's me:

Computer Nerd: 100%

Althletic/Rich/Popular: 37%

Bad Boy/Gothic: 15%

Neo Nazi/Punk: 0%

Catholic/Boy Scout/Family Guy: 10%

Normal Citizen: 7%

I used to think that I never put forth any effort at all, and got by with my immense ability, but now I suspect that my definition of 'effort' intensely differs from most peoples definition. Apparently, I work like a maniac on assignments, but I have such high personal standards that I often fall short of them. Because of this I have never thought of myself as much of an effort giving person. Weird.

Generally, I have a school (and home) personality something like this...

First 2 - 3 hours within waking up: Cranky and grouchy. Don't bug me.

1 hour after: Gets hungry. Feed me!

Within in the 2 - 3 hours afterwards: Generally a good mood. I tend to be a little more active in... er, was, in class. (SCHOOL LET OUT YESTERDAY PHATSO! :biggrin: )

And that's about it. Within the minutes/seconds in between, I'm (A) being made fun of, or (B) looking at a girl I like.

Yippie Ki Yay!

I too am a lazy bastard. That wasn't an option, was it?

Ha, I got out of school three weeks ago. Although I go back on the 8th of August... :/

Alien_Sniper said:
Soccer, and welcome back. :smile:

Soccer is great --- you stand at one end of the field and wait for balls to come flying at your face

Yippie Ki Yay!

Cassius said:
I too am a lazy bastard. That wasn't an option, was it?

It should have been: I'm the laziest bastard on earth. All my teachers used to say that I could "give more" if I put more efforts in my studies. Ironically, even in here, some comments on my map are talking about unused potential. If someone knows of any remedy for laziness, that could really help me out: how can I become a millionaire with this tare?

Motivation is the key to defeating laziness! Good luck. :smile:

Where can I get some of that, and how much does it cost?

Google Mr Motivator videos. (beware of the spandex)

still have not read this thread, and am still convinced its strongly biased to todays school attendee's.. but where is the option for "run from bullies?"

Maybe it is very biased for recent generations, but its very hard to
stretch 6 poll choices to cover the stereotypes of multiple
generations, let alone have a young person try and create stereotypes
for prior generations they weren't around to experience. Most people on
this site are about 16-25 I'd wager, with some exceptions on either
side, so it makes sense to use the stereotypes that typically apply to
those generations.

ReNo said:
Maybe it is very biased for recent generations, but its very hard to stretch 6 poll choices to cover the stereotypes of multiple generations, let alone have a young person try and create stereotypes for prior generations they weren't around to experience. Most people on this site are about 16-25 I'd wager, with some exceptions on either side, so it makes sense to use the stereotypes that typically apply to those generations.

yeah, but.. i was serious about my question.. and yes the question still holds true today..

where is the choice.. "RAN FROM BULLIES"