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                        Posted by Orpheus on 
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                        most of that made sense, even to my stupid ass.. but i have to ask, why would anyone design a game from the getgo, with a 30fps cap? is it because it was designed for T.V. sets?
anyways, was a good read.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                
                    
                        Re: Zoner speaks re: Halo PC
                        Posted by scary_jeff on 
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                        It probably reduces the number of calculations you have to do if you know the framerate will never be over a certain amount. I expect animations are somehow framerate dependant, and that if the framerate was alllowed to go to say 100fps, all the animations would go fast and screw up. Maybe the physics engine only goes at 30fps, and so anything above that will make the physics look jerky.
Complete guesses without rtfa btw :smile:
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Zoner speaks re: Halo PC
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                        if i recall, T.V. sets run at like 24 frames per themselves, maybe 30 is overkill.. i mean, the article said, you could drop to 15 in a firefight, thats a 15 point drop from 30.. but if they capped it at 24 that would put a fight at 9fps.. sounds possible i suppose.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Zoner speaks re: Halo PC
                        Posted by omegaslayer on 
    Thu Oct 28th 2004 at 12:23am
                     
                    
                        
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                        I UNDERSTAND NOW!!!!!!!! I now know why Halo PC sucked so much (fps wise).
Does anyone know if Halo 2 will be out on PC? (I know its a little early)
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Zoner speaks re: Halo PC
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                        At a guess, I'd say 30fps was to fit in nicely with the US/Asian tv standards. NTSC M has a vertical frequency of 60Hz. The 2:1 ratio looks too neat to be a coincidence. Or maybe it is, and I just waffle too much.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Zoner speaks re: Halo PC
                        Posted by Orpheus on 
    Thu Oct 28th 2004 at 1:24am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        now i am confused.. if tv runs at 30, and film runs at 24, how is it in sync?
maybe i heard wrong and film runs at 30 too :/
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Zoner speaks re: Halo PC
                        Posted by Tracer Bullet on 
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                        I believe that the NTSC standard is 29.5 FPS.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Zoner speaks re: Halo PC
                        Posted by Yak_Fighter on 
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                        Boy I am so sympathetic to gearbox's plight now. :rolleyes:
I quit computer science two years ago so I don't really know what it takes to code something this big, but it sure would seem to be like they could have ported it properly if they really wanted to instead of doing a half assed job of it.  ...oh, recodings going to be hard... oh well screw it, let's just ship it as is and then defend our actions on internet message boards.  People will understand!