So where the bloody hell are you

So where the bloody hell are you

Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Rumple on Thu Mar 9th 2006 at 7:49am
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The new Australian tourism advertisement has been recently launched; the use of the word bloody is getting some mixed reactions - mainly good ? although the ad has now been banned from TV in the UK because the word bloody is too offensive (Heard that on the news just as I am typing this).
What do you think of the word bloody being used in a tourism ad, would it discourage you from visiting, make you want to come even more or not change your view at all? (Or something else entirely?).

You can have a look at the ad at http://www.wherethebloodyhellareyou.com/.

I personally don?t have a problem with the ad, but maybe I?m biased :razz: .
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Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by ReNo on Thu Mar 9th 2006 at 11:25am
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I don't think there is anything about it whatsoever, but those damn censors... The advert wasn't anything amazing but it was fine for its purpose, and the word bloody was obviously a gimmick to give it a bit of personality. I think it worked ok, and it being present (and therefore giving the advert a bit of personality) would make me more likely to be interested than if it was not present (and therefore making the advert a completely generic tourist advert).

Maybe places are banning it just because you guys ban some of our stuff :razz:
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Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Gwil on Thu Mar 9th 2006 at 11:31am
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How can they ban that when they let Triple J broadcast the "happier than a pig in s**t" advert ALL the time!?

Crazy Aussies, I tell ye..
Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Dark Tree on Thu Mar 9th 2006 at 12:22pm
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<span style="color: silver;">Wow. How could anyone have found that offensive? honestly.
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Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Agent Smith on Thu Mar 9th 2006 at 1:04pm
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The only people complaining are the Brits, and thats just because they didn't think of it first :smile: .
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Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Dr Brasso on Thu Mar 9th 2006 at 1:29pm
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what a crock.....that is as harmless a bikini clad babe ad as ive ever seen...id love to go back to australia.....hell, that girlie is saving me a spot on the beach for christ's sake.... :heee: and after some of the ads i saw 20 years ago, this is almost like the aussies are reverting back to....er....."prudism"....

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Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Andrei on Thu Mar 9th 2006 at 2:37pm
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I really don't find that offensive. "Where the bloody hell are you?!" ?
Much more elegant than "Where the f**k are you?!, don't you think? :heee:

Censoring such words is silly if you ask me. I agree, you can't
broadcast certain words, but censoring "bloody" and "damn" is stupid. We
all know these words, including the "innocent" children they're trying
to "protect". Turning them into candy-asses who start crying each time
they hear someone use a mild swear-word isn't exactly my idea of
helping IMHO. Children need to get used to these words because they'll
be hearing them for the rest of their lives. The problem is where to
draw the line.

When I'll have kids, I'm going to teach them every insult romanian and
english have to offer and, more importantly, RESPONSIBILITY for their
own actions. I think it's better to teach your kids how to be
responsible when using insults/alcohol/cigars rather than making them
oblivious to something so wide-spread.
Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Thu Mar 9th 2006 at 5:40pm
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As an American, I'm not too familiar with the word "bloody." Obviously
I've heard it before, and I know the gist of it, but as far as curses
go, what is it on par with? Damn, or s**t, or f**k etc?
Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by ReNo on Thu Mar 9th 2006 at 5:52pm
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Damn is probably its nearest relative. It is commonly used in the context of "bloody hell!", which is much the same as saying "god damn it!". You might also say "Bloody Australians!", in the same way as you would say "Damn Australians!" :razz:
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Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by FatStrings on Thu Mar 9th 2006 at 5:58pm
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bloody is pretty much an all purpose expressive negative adjective and i find it to be quite a fun and expressive one

it doesn't really match up with any specific american words but can replace almost any one of our words

btw i don't see what's wrong with that commercial at all, generally i have seen more and more commercials using curse words
Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Nickelplate on Thu Mar 9th 2006 at 6:23pm
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It's a lot bloody better than that Paris Hilton hamburger commercial.
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Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by pepper on Thu Mar 9th 2006 at 7:18pm
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The ad's not airing here, but i know my grand uncle lives in new zealand, he was here a while back and kept putting bloody infront of every word :lol: . So i geuss its stuck to both countries there.
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Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by FatStrings on Thu Mar 9th 2006 at 8:03pm
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Nickelplate said:
It's a lot bloody better than that Paris Hilton hamburger commercial.
I agree
Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Thu Mar 9th 2006 at 8:22pm
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ReNo said:
Damn is probably its nearest relative. It is commonly used
in the context of "bloody hell!", which is much the same as saying "god
damn it!". You might also say "Bloody Australians!", in the same way as
you would say "Damn Australians!" :razz:
Well then, I don't see what all the fuss is about.
Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by satchmo on Thu Mar 9th 2006 at 8:39pm
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I remember watching the movie "Hope and Glory", and a bunch of kids are taunting this guy to utter the word "bloody". I was thinking, "what's bloody wrong with that word?"
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Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by pepper on Thu Mar 9th 2006 at 9:29pm
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Yer bloody right there :grenade:
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Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Gwil on Fri Mar 10th 2006 at 12:42am
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ok, admittedly, i've only just watched the advert - and i think there
is NO cause for complaint considering the chick asking "where the
bloody hell are you"

lets all go to australia to meet her, TBH.
Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by wil5on on Fri Mar 10th 2006 at 4:48am
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I think Americans should be banned from saying the word bloody as a curse, but only because it just sounds weird with their accent.
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Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Fri Mar 10th 2006 at 6:21am
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wil5on said:
I think Americans should be banned from saying the word
bloody as a curse, but only because it just sounds weird with their
accent.
I agree -- I just wouldn't feel right uttering any British slang.
Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by FatStrings on Fri Mar 10th 2006 at 6:28pm
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it's funny that you say that because most of us wouldn't think of ourselves as having an accent, of course it would depend on what region of america

yet, i have to agree because it just doesn't feel right when i say it, it doesn't come at all naturally
Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Nickelplate on Fri Mar 10th 2006 at 7:07pm
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wil5on said:
I think Americans should be banned from saying the word bloody as a curse, but only because it just sounds weird with their accent.
Sometimes I say things like "rozzers" and "pissers" "wank" "s**te" and a few others. I also use the "I've" like britons do. Americans say "I don't have any." or "I don't have it." Brits say "I'vn't any" or "I've not got it."
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Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by fraggard on Sat Mar 11th 2006 at 3:47am
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lets all go to australia to meet her, TBH.
Seconded.
Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Orpheus on Sat Mar 11th 2006 at 9:03pm
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Addicted to Morphine said:
<DIV class=quote>
<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting wil5on</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>I think Americans should be banned from saying the word bloody as a curse, but only because it just sounds weird with their accent.
I agree -- I just wouldn't feel right uttering any British slang.
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Funny, I always thought the opposite. At least in written form. I read posts here and notice subtle differences in peoples replies as time goes on. Sometimes, the word used means something different than the "origins" meaning but for the most part it seems fairly unoffensive.

and Wilson, lets not get into an accent debate. There isn't anything more hilarious than a British one. :lol:

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Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Andrei on Sat Mar 11th 2006 at 10:07pm
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lets not get into an accent debate. There isn't anything more hilarious than a British one. :lol:
Oh yes there is: MY accent when I try to mimic the british one or, even worse, the irish one :lol: . Damn, I wish I had a mic.

I agree, though. Some words sound better with their originary
accent. I can't picture a guy with an american accent saying "blimey!".
Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Orpheus on Sat Mar 11th 2006 at 10:14pm
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On several occasions I have attempted to get a site wide accent recording. Every time, I am voted down but I still think its a wonderful idea.

What I wanted to do was have everyone vote on a sentence. It doesn't matter what it says except it should contain about 25 words in it and hopefully contain some colloquialisms that we each share in our everyday speech patterns.

After we decide the sentence is appropriate we each record ourselves saying it. then upload it someplace for each to download and hear our voices.

All in good humor of course.

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Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Dr Brasso on Sun Mar 12th 2006 at 12:11am
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Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Nickelplate on Sun Mar 12th 2006 at 1:50am
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On several occasions I have attempted to get a site wide accent recording. Every time, I am voted down but I still think its a wonderful idea.

What I wanted to do was have everyone vote on a sentence. It doesn't matter what it says except it should contain about 25 words in it and hopefully contain some colloquialisms that we each share in our everyday speech patterns.

After we decide the sentence is appropriate we each record ourselves saying it. then upload it someplace for each to download and hear our voices.

All in good humor of course.
Let's do it! Seriously. I love accents. I think the sentence should be "My monitor is broken and my computer has a virus." I'd pronounce it like "wirus."
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Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Orpheus on Sun Mar 12th 2006 at 1:56am
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Not enough words Nick.

Besides, it would need to be about mapping/editing.

"My map has a leak and I cannot find the damned thing. The bloody thing must be hidden behind some vertex rocks. Arse it all."

Or some crazy s**t like that.

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Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Nickelplate on Sun Mar 12th 2006 at 2:04am
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Just find a nice sentence, and make an "Accent Thread"

just make sure the sentence has a lot of the sounds that ppl pronounce differently like J W B H V X Y Those are all pronounced very differently in lots of different languages.
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Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Orpheus on Sun Mar 12th 2006 at 2:07am
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<DIV class=quote>
<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting Nickelplate</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>Just find a nice sentence, and make an "Accent Thread"

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Not me. As I said, it fizzles out every time I try.

Get somebody "more liked" to do it. Maybe... Frenchy or Win98. :heee: <---Humor tag guys.
Seriously, it needs more thought. But I am game.

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Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Nickelplate on Sun Mar 12th 2006 at 2:09am
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I'll do it. Not today. I gotta find a good sentence. EVERYONE loves me! except Cassius. But you know, he don' like nobody.
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Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Orpheus on Sun Mar 12th 2006 at 2:14am
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EVERYONE loves me! except Cassius. But you know, he don' like nobody.
If Cassius didn't like you, he'd ignore you.

Cassius is definitely one of my favored SP members.

Believe me, it took a while, as he and I started off very much otherwise. It was worth the effort.

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Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Andrei on Sun Mar 12th 2006 at 9:31am
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I gotta find a good sentence.
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Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Nickelplate on Mon Mar 13th 2006 at 8:19am
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not enough language-specific sounds...
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Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Andrei on Mon Mar 13th 2006 at 3:44pm
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Well, whatever line you choose, I'm 100% for this idea. It will be fun and educational.
Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Mon Mar 13th 2006 at 4:41pm
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What about:

Your map is very hard to understand. Why did you build humongous skysrapers in the middle of the extremely lush jungle?

I dunno what you guys think about those lines... I tried to have a variety of sounds and keep it mapping oriented.
Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Orpheus on Mon Mar 13th 2006 at 5:41pm
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How about:

"If it weren't for Snarkpit, most map editing in my life would end. In spite of this being bloody British based site, most of us,Yanks included, feel welcome. The tutorial section needs a bit more incentive, not to mention the benefit of a decently written critique but overall its a friendly place to visit. Its really to bad that we drifted away from reviews. It was a noble beginning but, one we are proud of."

Well, something sentimental would be nice. Problem is, I am not sure exactly how to fit in the appropriate colloquialisms.. The sentence I wrote above, seems cheap and unworthy for an experiment of this type.

Someone of the UK persuasion needs to add some local color to the thought methinks.

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Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by ReNo on Mon Mar 13th 2006 at 6:27pm
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Would be a bit daft for us UK people to say "in spite of this being a bloody british based site" :biggrin: I also think it is a bit odd to specify a phrase that is, to be honest, really quite personal. I mean, not all our members might feel comfortable saying that - what if Snarkpit isn't the sole reason for their presence in the mapping scene? I know we have a few Interlopers, TWHL and Mapcore members amongst us at the very least. I'm also a bit lost in your third sentence - you say that the tutorial section needs more incentive (as in, you feel good tutorials should reward the writers better I assume) but by "not to mention the benefit of a decently written critique" do you mean you think critiques should get more benefits?

Christ, talk about over analysing eh? :biggrin:
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Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Orpheus on Mon Mar 13th 2006 at 6:46pm
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Christ, talk about over analysing eh? :biggrin:
Duncan.. The sentence isn't meant to make sense. We could get the same results with "Mary had a little lamb, its fleece was white as snow"

I was attempting to use mapping jargon with a bit of local speech mannerisms thrown in.

For all I care, we can stick to a nursery rhyme. It will make me happy no matter.

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Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Jinx on Mon Mar 13th 2006 at 9:00pm
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I thought "bloody" was actually a rather vulgar term to the British.

It doesn't just mean "covered in blood", it's a religious reference to Christ or Mary or something.

I say "bloody hell" sometimes, and I'm American. I just think it's cute haha. Of course, I say "frack" sometimes from watching too much Battlestar Galactica, so go figure.
Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Orpheus on Mon Mar 13th 2006 at 9:38pm
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Yeah, perhaps Jinxy but, as I said, it wasn't meant to mean anything. I just wanted a fair example of speech. I really didn't think we needed two sentences, one politically correct for each nation. I would hope that Snarkpit isn't totally reduced to that yet.

As for bloody being a cuss word, who gives a f**k? :biggrin:

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Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Crono on Tue Mar 14th 2006 at 5:57am
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Frack you.

Now we need some Cylons to fight ... some hot and sexy female-machines ...
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Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by Andrei on Tue Mar 14th 2006 at 11:13am
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Frack you.

Now we need some Cylons to fight ... some hot and sexy female-machines ...
And we have just found the perfect lines for our little experiment! :biggrin:
Re: So where the bloody hell are you Posted by FatStrings on Wed Mar 15th 2006 at 3:45am
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it's funny andrei because that's exactly what i thought when i saw it

guys i think i've found a solution for our bloody problem, it can't be a cuss word because the pit doesn't edit it with *'s