I can never justify fighting.

I've been in situations where guys just want to beat the f**k out of me, but I just put my hands in my pockets and smile and they can't really fight you at that point.

I'm against all violence.

the only fight i have ever heard of that seemed justified is because some kid was f**king around putting his hands around this kids neck and the kid had a cancer of some sort there so he could die if the guy caught it right

i felt good for the beating that dumnass

Man, I hate this article about how 56k people soudln't complain about Steam's bugs. There even comes a part 2 where he tells the people who e-mailed after the first article to stfu. Bad.

Man, I hate this
article about how 56k people soudln't complain about Steam's bugs.
There even comes a part 2 where he tells the people who e-mailed after
the first article to stfu. Bad.

I'd like to use chainsaw on that guys face so badly. Perhaps I'd just
cut his legs off first and rope the stubs so that he wouldn't die too
quickly.

"If you don't have access to 1349791263416965412GiB/s connection it's your personal problem, don't play games!"

Can someone point me towards a bigger asshole?

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I don't think Bush is a retard like the whole world likes to think he is. I think he is quite smart and I HATE him for that.

Here is my logic, what if bush went up infront of the world and eliquintly spoke about his plans to drill in Alaska, cut taxes for the rich, warmonger, etc. etc. People would get smart to his bull s**t and boom he would be out of office. But when he f*kcs up and says "Stragigery" THAT is whats all over the news and in our minds, not the content of what he says. Its brilliant, he get the bush haters to have something to talk about and make fun of him for, and he get all the dumb trailer park trash people to rally behind him because all the "prick" liberals bash him for looking like a dumb hick. So everyone is all wrapped up in making fun of him, or each other while HE and HIS cronies keep on keeping on.

I mean, lets be honest, if people who lose half their brain in an accident can be retaught speech you would THINK that the MOST POWERFUL MAN IN THE WORLD get pronouns a few key words right. So either he is lazy, stupid, and doesn't care or he and his people KNOW that you can get away with murder when the world focuses more on the delivery than the content.

"As much as you fear it, Steam is not going to find your secret stash of hentai cartoons and send them back to Valve so Gabe Newell can laugh at you before Doug Lombardi sets up the blackmail scheme to fund development of Half-Life 3."

LOL!!!

"You mean I have to connect my gaming computer to the Internet?!"

Seriously, what the hell does this even mean? You built a kick ass system just for games, and all you're using it for is single-player campaigns? That doesn't make any sense at all, but let's take that one step further."

"What's the problem here? Why is hooking up to the Internet such a hassle? If you answer back that you only have a dial-up modem, then that's your problem, not Valve's. Steam was designed for high-speed connections like cable or T1 networks. If you don't have one yet, and it's available in your area, you have no excuse."

Unfortuantly not only here but many other countries have broadband which doesnt exist or is unaffordable. America isnt the only country which plays Half Life 2 :rolleyes:

It's been over five hours since I read that article and I still want to saw that guys balls in half with a chainsaw...

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/Puts on Flame Proof Suit

I agreed with the article steam was built for broadband

you can still use it with dialup just ask someone to download the half or cs pack off the net for you

oh FTW this topic is all over the place

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I agree with everything that artical says. If valve is looking ahead, 56k is being phased out, broadband phased in. Write to leaders and phone companies saying you want broadband, don't bitch at valve for not creating something for tecnolgy that could very well be dead in a few years.

Pff, I got broadband pretty much the day I needed it to install HL2. And I still hate Steam for it's Microsftness. It's the ultimate globalization arrogance: Ignore the people that aren't the norm because they're irrelevant for profit. It's the same thinking that caused HL2 to ship without a DM mode and a soulless CS port instead. It's the same thinking that causes bugs for HL2DM or the SDK to not get fixed for ages while there are tons of "HDR-upgrades" for DOD:S. It's the same thinking that causes people to starve that live near a giant fish factory that delivers tons underpriced fish fillets to European countries thousands of miles away.

Also Steam started to download 2 GB of content I had already installed which is annoying no matter if you have a 56k or a DSL modem.

What upsets me the most is actually part 2 where he starts to bitch about people who sent critical feedback mails were all wrong.

I watched Darwin's Nightmare too, pretty eye-opening.

But yeah...

Way to thread crap FrenchToast Hahaha

Reaper: The Question you should ask yourself is whining going to fix anything?

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some people can't afford anything above dial-up or are in debt and the essintials are more important than a fast internet connection, or if they are younger their parents won't buy a faster internet connection. but thats just some people. (including me) :rocketwhore:

If they are in debt why would they buy hl2 in the first place

thats like complaining that you cant play halo 3 becuase its on the xbox 360

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look steam isn't about profits, valve doesn't stand to make that much more from it, note how video games are $50 in the store and $20 on steam? They wanted to cut out the middle man, ITS A SORRY FACT THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE STILL DEPENDENT ON THE MIDDLE MAN, but that is going to change. It is arrogant and short sighted to bitch because you can't get a job to buy internet or you will have to wait to play the game.

I'm sure I would be pissed off if I couldn't play hl2, but I am not I am able to see with eye unclouded by my own greed.

Steam is the future of not only games, but ALL things, Music, TV, movies. The world is ripe for a change we don't need the middle men who squnder creativity and steal our money. Steam is the first step, and a great first step.

if i could get high speed don't you think i would? being 13 i can't really afford to pay 20-30 bucks a month and my parents to cheap to get it. and it's not like bitching about halo 3 and Xbox360 because i can still play half-life2 i just make sure i always go to offline mode before getting on the internet so i don't have to sit through an hour of updates before i can play SP...

also im not complaining about steam i think it's quite awseome and is the future but i think it is kinda dumb to have to be online and sit through a bunch of updates after installing a game before you can play the singleplayer

I thought you could turn off automatic updates, but I'm probably wrong...

I thought you could turn off automatic updates, but I'm probably wrong...

You have to update HL2 once after installation before you go into
"offline" mode and turn off the updates. It took me 1 hour and 34
minutes to decrypt the f**king files of a singleplayer game(just HL2,
not HL2DM or CS:S) then it took another for the updates it had to
download. At that time I didn't have 56k modem, I had an ISDN(64kbps or
128kbps depending if you want double price or not), which is due to
it's digital nature much more truer to the speed that it's promised to
give. And in here dial-ups are pay per minute+connection cost. So HL2
costed me one and a half times more than someone else who bought it
from retail also. Although I've had a broadband connection for several
months now it still pisses me off how arrogant people are towards those
who simply can't get a broadband connection.

Steam is a great invention in a perfect world, but we are not living in
a perfect world... I remember reading an article about HL2 in a local
gaming magazine where the author said that this is a dawn of a darker
age for gamers. I had to agree with him at the time. Perhaps in future
when everyone has access in high-speed internet people will no longer
think that Steam is evil...

Also a side effect from Steam being very tight with Windows we won't be
seeing any ports from Steam only games to Macs or Linux boxes(Macs are
runnning on almost same hardware these days than PCs so I guess Mac
gaming scene will see a new rise, also Linux has become more and more
viable alternative for windows of late). Considering that I won't
install Vista on any of my computers due to it's extremely s**tty
nature this means that in future I might be giving up on Steam and the
HL world... But I'll still have Unreal, Doom 3 and several others
non-windowsbound games aviable for me. Thank the developers for that.

/end of rant

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i Can Agree with you Somewhat Reaper

Its not possible for everyone to get Broadband but theres Still ISDN which is just like dialup when it comes to avalibility

It does suck that theres no ports of steam but the games go where the market is and the market is the PC not mac or linux

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:biggrin: Linux is PC. It's an OS like your every day Windows.

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'I don't own a PC, I have a dell'

Reaper: The Question you should ask yourself is whining going to fix anything?

Oh, I could ask myself a million questions. Is not whining going to fix anything? Is this actually whining or just loud thinking? Do I have to care?

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Also what people are complaining about is mainly one thing: You need to go online to play offline games. There is a myth you can start them offline after the activation (which is tedious enough) but somehow it never works.

I'd accept this for online games. Makes sense there. Stops some lame pirating.

But for offline games it just is overprotective. I'm sure there are crack-nerds somewhere who brought HL2 to run without going online and laugh at us people who have to pass the 3 hour validation/checking/updating process to start the game we just bought for 50 euros. I mentioned befoe I do have broadband. But I also have a 4 GB per month flatrate which is actually pretty good for europe (there are 500 MB or 1 GB ones). I cannot re-download the whole file if steam decides to force me to do so because of some mysterious "critical update" for an offline game that worked fine for me before.

Just saying that all people complaining about Steam could shut the hell up and - that's what this is actually about - writing some cheesy, whiny, hypocritical article about on one the frontpage of one of the biggest HL sites is SO bad and so symbolically arrogant that it makes me angry. Two articles, two!

(btw, this is not all that important to me but hey, it's the Vent thread :biggrin: )

I don't like how the Japan Airline Stewardesses take about 15 minutes to read the announcements off (since they pause for 10 seconds between sentences) while I'm at the middle of the very last scene of a movie... and then they shut off the movies for good.

Small vent, and not quite serious, but felt like I had to get it out there :smile:

Pvt Scythe: Yes Im aware of that i suppose i made it a little to vague

Reaper: ...... Not in the mood to get in an argument that in the end doesnt really matter

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Mr.INSANE said:
I agreed with the article steam was built for broadband

you can still use it with dialup just ask someone to download the half or cs pack off the net for you

To a point, this may be true but I recently bought Ep1. After installing the game there was still hundreds of megs of updates just to play it. They could have put the info on the disk.

I feel that they deliberately made it difficult.

I also believe that they shouldn't make it necessary to play the game and have internet. It doesn't have to be that way. The episodes aren't relevant to internet connecting. :rolleyes:

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Yeah I Really wish The People at Valve could cut some lard off the steam files Steam takes up 10 gigs on my pc

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Steam takes up 5 gb on my PC Just CS: S and HL2 on mine though!

13.5GB here. I don't even have Ep1 yet. Only three mods for source and
small HL installation(most of the hl mods are on my WON install).

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I've got you all beat:


I'm as surprised as you are.

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As I Lay Dying

I just let vrad compile my map on high quality with a "-final" pass, HDR and everything maxed out only to realize that vvis didn't run because of some STUPID typo in the compile settings. So I could have spent the 2 hours running that SETI screensaver instead with a more satisfying result. I'm soooo... ahh.

DrGlass said:
I agree with everything that artical says. If valve is looking ahead, 56k is being phased out, broadband phased in. Write to leaders and phone companies saying you want broadband, don't bitch at valve for not creating something for tecnolgy that could very well be dead in a few years.

Then why the keck is Valve making thier games still compatible with windows 98?

I hate steam so much... It's big brother, its keeping me from having GOOD lan parties, and its always causing errors and taking up like 300mb of my ram... Not to mention that I have a 300MB per hour limit on my internet and it exceeds that in a few minutes....

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lolol if your internets is not good you don't have the right to play games kekekeke.

Any questions?

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lolol if your internets is not good you don't have the right to play games kekekeke.

Any questions?

Where do you want it? To the head or to the chest?

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Your face. Inside Out. :razz:

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Both plz.

Since you live in an area that does not have broadband available, it is your fault that Valve makes software that needs an average of 50GB of updates a month.

HOW CRAPPY DOES A GAME NEED TO BE TO NEED SO MANY UPDATES!!!

Windows XP is ever worse... At least STEA< updates don't restart my PC arbitrarily....

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Um Ive been running steam for a 2 years now and i dont know what your talking about it takes up 9 megs of ram and it rarely updates for me and i have hl2 and basicly all the extra stuff ala dod source cs source and all the goldsrc derivatives

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You're lucky then.

Steam worked fine for me, too, until about 3 months ago when it suddenly decided to go crazy. It's not about the 90% it goes right, it's about the 10% it goes wrong. Considering there are 6 million (?) steam users that would still make 600,000 users suffering from unnecessary problems. Maybe it's just 3%. But it's way to easy to ignore these people, now that Steam is such a huge, mighty project.

STEAM PLAYER NUMBER STATISTICS

<div style="text-align: left;">This page last updated: 2:02am PST (10:02 GMT), August 23 2006

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Average unique users per month: 2,853,375

I'd say roughly 3 million active users. Makes you think really HL alone
sold some 11 million copies when you add the CS retail and CS:CZ sales
as well as what HL2 sold both in retail and online and the other games
sold through Steam, doesn't that figure look quite small to you?

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Not really. I've noticed, especially with Half-Life, people tend to buy many copies. Also, with VAC anti-cheating, I would imagine many people have gotten caught and wanted to play on VAC servers again so they bought another copy.

Also, as for retail copies, people lose game discs all the time. I've noticed this to be a bit more frequent when regarding HL games than anything else, however.

Also, lots of people who bought the HL games don't generally play online ... or they don't use steam (there are actually alternatives that will allow you to play hl2 and such which would not be included in Valve's number crunching)

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