New Competition

If a trap contest goes ahead, I'll definitely give it a go. Vanilla HL1/2 SP is the way to go I think, we dont need any fancy weapons (or textures or models for that matter) to make a trap.

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i think this is the general consensus. now we just need an admin to make it official: post a thread with the rules (purpose, dimensions, limitations,...) + timespan, post on front page, post on other forums, etc

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Unby, it embeds maps, models, textures, sounds, etc. into a .pak

<br style="color: white;">-_- Oh. Nevermind then. :smile:

<span style="color: silver;">[quote=Pvt.Scythe]</span>
Unby, it embeds maps, models, textures, sounds, etc. into a .paknby, it embeds maps, models, textures, sounds, etc. into a .pak.[/quote]

Nope. It embeds them into a .bsp.

8( ok.. lol, now does/can it work for HL1 maps?

yes unby

so, eta till compo start?

wow, good stuff. I'll have to use that from now on. That pwns

Campaignjunkie said:
In my mind, the competitions are meant more as an impetus for starting and finishing projects rather than something to actually win. Because learning is fun.

You wouldn't believe how much flack I got in the last competition for my thinking along these lines. IMO, just being part of something like this is in itself a joy. So much so that having any further enticement such as prizes and whatnot shouldn't be a necessity.

However, I was in the minority for this thinking. Hence, the prize option in this event.

/ruminating

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times are changing hoss.....it all me me me now now now or, "whats in it for me ?".....or "what have you done for me lately?".....

and ill bet few of these pups have even seen "bonanza"... :heee:

nice to see ya again btw jon.....

Doc B... :dodgy:

Okay, sense the trap theme seems to be the most popular, I have to say I approve

Most maps I see nowadays don't make much use of some of the things that make a map a map, and not just a box with stuff in it.

Traps, weather (other than dust), OMGWTF moments, etc, these all tend to be left out, leaving combat oriented maps, or the generic dusty desert area...

It seems to me, that it might be idea to extend the theme (or keep it in mind for the next one) to other lesser used devices that can give a map that extra touch

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OMGWTF moments.... mmmmm

times are changing hoss.....it all me me me now now now or,
"whats in it for me ?".....or "what have you done for me lately?".....
and ill bet few of these pups have even seen "bonanza"... :heee:

nice to see ya again btw jon.....

Doc B... :dodgy:

Guess what? :biggrin: I've seen Bonanza. :razz: Quite crappy series really, but I was bored. :biggrin:

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Bonanza pwns.

Just FYI, Bonanza is still on the air on a local station here

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Signature? What signature!?

TV Land

seriously though...

<span style="color: silver;">less bonanza. more competition.
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I agree

but I think its been decided, yes, and 'traps'

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But when and how long? :smile:

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We need an official to decide upon these details.

Ah come on? I thought it would have been decided by now...

How about giving us time until new year or christmas? :smile:

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Bah humbug.

This compo appeals to me more:

http://interlopers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13911

http://interlopers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13911

The cool thing about it is someone actually said: START IT!

Keep your fingers crossed. I should be able to return within 2 weeks.

Stupid fire. :sad:

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Ah come on? I thought it would have been decided by now...

Believe it or not most of us with the ol' green names have more pressing issues to attend to than the internet :smile:

Assuming... That I can get my new PC and HL2 game bought, I guess that I'll take on the job again... Also assuming that someone else can assist in a support capacity?

Still more than a week before I'll recieve my parts to build the damned thing.

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Orph, if you registered your version on the steam and you can use
someones DSL then you can DL HL2 by only using steam. :smile: I did that on
my second install. It works even without the DVD, since you've
registered the CD key to your username. But good luck. :smile: We'll be
waiting for your return.

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How insightful.

What...fire?

<span style="color: silver;">they call me spitfire. how about if no mods actually have time for the site, you get some that do.

No disrespec'


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13 pages... And I left around or near page 4...

I will read this through and post my views.

I am a bit surprised that nothing has happened, in the forwarding of this event.

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Pvt.Scythe said:
Orph, if you registered your version on the steam and you can use someones DSL then you can DL HL2 by only using steam. :smile: I did that on my second install. It works even without the DVD, since you've registered the CD key to your username.

This is interesting. Yes, my original is mine. Bought and paid for. So.. I could download HL2?

Question is.. Can I do it in advance? I mean, even if I got it, this poor excuse for a PC might not even run it. Can I burn the download to disk/DVD and install it on my new system when I build it?

I'd so like to have it already for installation when I need it.

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I'd have thought you can do that. Isn't there an option to back-up to CD/DVD? If you do that for the games you want then you can use the CDs to put it onto the new system.

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Yes, there is a backup option hidden somewhere in the steam games menu. Just click a fully installed game to add it to a backup file. Be prepared for a few GBs, though!

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The good news is, upon my return tonight my DSL is nearly up to full speed.

I have broadband again.... Now is I can just piece me together a machine big enough to run HL2,Doom3,Quake4,ect,ect...

sighs

I remind myself, take it in steps Jon. You'll get it.

I will be home this weekend however. Anyone up to fragging some HL1 maps?

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Hmmm - Been lookin to do some mapping again here lately. Could someone shoot me an email once a topic has been decided? I haven't been very good about checking this site as much as I used to.

clintdietz -at- gmail.com

Dietz said:
I haven't been very good about checking this site as much as I used to.

clintdietz -at- gmail.com

And I for one have missed the hell outa'ya Dietz. I'll shoot'ya that email once things get moving on a bit.

I will be going down your way sometime during the week of Thanksgiving.

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My time is more readibly available now to advance this - sisters
wedding passed peacefully and essays/seminar presentations are out the
way until December. Would somebody care to summarise the general
consensus on what the competition is going to be? IE, we are doing a trap map?

I am very busy today but will go through this thread tonight and try to make heads/tails of this.

Sadly, with making runs back to back, I have been really tired upon my return home.

Last night it was late and I but scanned this site before retiring for the night.

I will endeavor to be more available.

My hopes still remain high for obtaining a machine big enough to run the bigger engines, soon.

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(rubs eyes after sifting through all the tripe contained in this thread :heee: )

OK, I by no means have the most time,thats a given. I however have the least pressing things to do since my only time consumption thing is working at delivering busses. The admin here have much more important things. Most notably school.

I will volunteer to run this thing, with no objections of course. I will be somewhat limited until I get my new machine, but I will be here as often as possible on this one until then.

The central idea seems to be that most want a trap theme. No one seems overly concerned whether its HL1 and/or HL2, so that simplifies it some. The only notable exception being that HL1 is old enough to not be taken as seriously. I however believe that given this, it would make a well made HL1 trap more likely to win because of the handicap... However I may be alone in this thinking. (If you recall, I firmly believe that its harder to succeed with HL1 than HL2.)

The only other notable event was, that it seems less important to anyone else that we have a novice category. I bow to the majority. :sad:

So the next question that seems logical is, should we have another poll to decide exactly the guidelines of this trap theme? I mean, I accept that HL1 and HL2 are welcome and that both single player and deathmatch are fine but that leaves a hell of a big gray area IMO.

Should this trap be contained within a map or should the trap be limited to a room? Furthermore, should the entry be an entire map, or just a room?

The vote is 22 for and only 1 against so the popularity is there. All we need is a bit of serious people to post some definitive idea for this to proceed.

I await your comments eagerly.

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Orpheus said:
Should this trap be contained within a map or should the trap be limited to a room? Furthermore, should the entry be an entire map, or just a room?

Neither. A small area, be it a silo or a room with several adjacent corridors and rooms.

Andrei said:
Neither. A small area, be it a silo or a room with several adjacent corridors and rooms.

So you want more than a single room, but less than a complete map?

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Well, imo this is the best compromise. Plus not knowing where the trap is nor what will set it off is half the fun. :biggrin:

My son and I came up with the guass trap in my map "Deja_vu_2"

It was great fun watchin folks stumble into it and dying horribly. PLUS you could shoot them via slits in the wall if you liked without them knowing where you were.

So very few figured out the trap that no one liked it much. It still was the best trap I ever saw.

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I'd say the map should be "entirely about the trap". Whether it's in the middle of a giant hall or pops up unexpectedly after a few calm corridors can be up to the mapper. But what's not directly about the trap itself is decoration and shouldn't be judged to much for the contest. If someone builds the coolest map in the world and only puts a lava pit with a pentagram-shaped activator button on the wall it should still loose IMO.

I find it ok to have as little categories as possible. I'd love to see some physics traps (chances are I might try one myself) but if people still have unique ideas for a HL1 map it's probably good enough to beat lame ravenholm clones easily.

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my person thoughts on the rules for a trap map compo are as following.

• The map can be as big as you want it, but it should be at your discression what a reasonable size is.

• The maps main feature must be a trap, trap being interpreted as you want. judgement is based on the creativity, fun elements, and genral quality of the trap.

• It is the judges decision if what you made is indead a trap, so you cannot strech the word out of context

• Visual appeal shouldn't be directly judged. (although visual elements will always further engourge the player into the game which can effect how fun the trap is.)

• HL1 and HL2 catagories, 3 winners each, and 1 overall winner not included in the caragories. so there is a total of 7 winners. (either 3 Goldsrc and 4 source or viceversa)

Scope out the traps in DJV2.. They were coolness. Preferably with a partner so you can see it in action.

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