Persian Letters by Campaignjunkie

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RELEASED AUGUST 2004. People's Choice of 2004 Snarkpit Competition.
To install: open "persia" in the .zip, and extract the 5 or 6 folders into "valve". I don't know why it's even in "persia", I'm stupid.

When I played Prince of Persia, what really stuck out for me was the level design. All of it was very seamless and connected - you had a genuine feeling of where you were going throughout the palace and it all seemed like one place. Flash forward a few months. I slave away at the last second and barely pump out a map for the competition. I'm such an idiot!

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Posted by Campaignjunkie on Tue Jul 27th 2004 at 3:16am
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Updated.

Finally compiled. Woohoo. Lighting indoors is sketchy at best - just
threw torches and such everywhere. Could use suggestions anyway.
r_speeds peak at 1000 in little corner areas, but for the most part the
average is somewhere around 600. :smile:

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(obligatory Tron 2.0 Glow screenshot...)
Posted by Ferret on Sun Jul 25th 2004 at 3:56am

break me! break me!
Posted by Campaignjunkie on Sun Jul 25th 2004 at 2:16am
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Crackerjack: I shall break you, then proceed to ruin your family. :sailor:
Posted by Crackerjack on Sun Jul 25th 2004 at 1:01am

no you can't.. its impossible
Posted by Campaignjunkie on Sun Jul 25th 2004 at 12:02am
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Yeah, heheh, got carried away. I'll also work on clearing some texture space for those stone-image things.

So, I'm going to do a major overhaul of the map right now (~1 week away from the deadline?! eep) I'm removing
all the weaker areas, cannibalizing parts from them, and going to adapt
it to a new multi-tiered semi-Stalkyard type layout. Going to work on
getting more cover / close-quarters in too. Thanks for all the
feedback, probably would have just kept blindly working on all of this
without it. Going to be a challenge balancing epic/tight feel, but I
can try, right? :smile:
Posted by ReNo on Sat Jul 24th 2004 at 7:49pm

Its looking pretty epic, bigger than I expected for some reason. I'd really need to see it compiled to pass judgement, there are lots of awkward parts in the texturing that are obvious in hammer but may be hidden better in game, and together with the lack of lighting, I feel it would be unfair to say anything about it without seeing compiled shots.
Posted by Gwil on Sat Jul 24th 2004 at 11:22am

http://www.seapyramid.net/articles/images/persia/mithra.jpg

kinda like that, CJ - if you see what I mean. usually depicting folks
doing something historic (attacking people, being led by their God
etc). just poke around and look on Iranian/Iraqi websites or use the
ever wonderful google image tool with a few choice words - tis always
good for inspiration.

BTW the hanging gardens were made of mud bricks I believe, if that
helps develop them. and they didnt hang at all, they just sat :razz:

heres another good one of (i presume) some ruins from the location of Persepolis -

http://www.hory.applet.cz/iran/perseopolis_chram_sm.jpg
Posted by Gwil on Sat Jul 24th 2004 at 11:19am

a friese (i think thats the spelling, to tell you the truth I havent
bothered to check :razz: ) are like engravings on flat stone... errr, like
those stones the British stole from Athens and refuse to give back!

I guess you'd have to find textures for them though, i'll try and find a picture gov :smile:
Posted by Campaignjunkie on Sat Jul 24th 2004 at 11:04am
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Gwil - Yeah, it's kind of supposed to be a mock hanging gardens. Except I
don't know what I'm doing! :smile: ... But Frieses? What are those? :biggrin:

Good point Yak_Fighter. I'd probably have to close a bunch of stuff off
for r_speed reasons anyway. I think I might have gotten too carried
away with the theme. Maybe I just need to play some more HLDM (and get
my ass kicked) to stay grounded in reality? Also, I don't think I'll be
putting in the gauss (even though it would be a travesty in an open map
like this), there's too much decoration and stuff for the player to
jump up to, and it would spoil a lot of the illusion and such. :razz:
Posted by Yak_Fighter on Sat Jul 24th 2004 at 8:25am

This looks all very nice, even in its uncompiled state, but as a deathmatch map it doesn't look too happy. It's way too wide open, especially the courtyard, which will cause the crossbow, gauss, and LJ to be very dominant, and in my experience with HLDM those kind of games usually suck, promoting camping and lameness. It may not be possible at this point, but I would strongly suggest adding additional detail for cover. Perhaps some additional guardrails, rubble, rolled-up carpets, small stalls like A_S said, chairs, benches, cannon, trash/refuse, vegetation, two-wheeled carts, fountains, crates, barrels, pots, bazaar stuff, lamps, uhh... chamber pots? I don't know much that would fit with a middle eastern/persian setting. For the barracks you could have beds, weapon racks, anvils or blacksmith stuff, torture equipment, pots of boiling oil, stacks of wood/kindling, horsey stalls, food and ammo dumps.