sloppy maping?

sloppy maping?

Re: sloppy maping? Posted by half-dude on Tue Dec 16th 2003 at 6:07pm
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Hey all it's me :leper: Half-dude,

I make pritty good maps duh! :rolleyes: .

but the outside of the maps always look sloppy eg. brushes sticking out, random textures, but dont get me wrong, it's only on complex curved rooms or halls.

is it just me or what?
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by Vash on Tue Dec 16th 2003 at 6:28pm
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[size=13][color=white]I make pritty good maps duh! :rolleyes: .
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Now that just pisses me off...Only a few select people here have the right to say that [Reno, Mr.ben, Squrrial, Adam..Etc]

It doesnt matter if it's sloppy unless players will be able to see select areas...If you noclip, you'll notice none of the brush'es outside are renderd.
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by fishy on Tue Dec 16th 2003 at 6:28pm
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whats on the outside doesnt make any difference to the map. the outside faces all get discarded when you compile.

that is, unless u have a leak or u used a huge skybox. in either of these cases, we'll send 'round some of the lads with a basket of ferrets if u dont sort it. :biggrin:
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by Cash Car Star on Tue Dec 16th 2003 at 7:12pm
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Ok, so I'm looking at this post trying to find a reasonable question to answer

This is the best answer I can find:

It is just you. Don't worry about it.
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by Forceflow on Tue Dec 16th 2003 at 7:58pm
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No specification of the problem ? Screenshots ?

For the love of god, how can we help you ?

:biggrin:
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by Gwil on Wed Dec 17th 2003 at 12:39am
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its just you :razz:

this topic is a waste of time :wink:
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by Dr Brasso on Wed Dec 17th 2003 at 1:09am
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im just curious.....how old are you half ass?

Doc B... :mad:
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by Cassius on Wed Dec 17th 2003 at 2:11am
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Yeah, this guy is beginning to remind me of how I acted on the internet - when I was twelve years old.
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by Orpheus on Wed Dec 17th 2003 at 2:30am
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i think, if the admin is going to randomly hand out blue answers, they could have at least waited till we all replied :biggrin:

this post, was way in the wrong forum.. in fact i don't think we have a forum for it :/
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by Vash on Wed Dec 17th 2003 at 2:31am
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Vash wants a blue one!

But lets all stop and think here...Half-dude says he makes pritty good maps [DUH! :rolleyes: ]...But has he posted any screenshots of his so called "Xen" something MOD since he's been here.

I think not. When It comes to mapping, I am a bit of a perfectionist :S. [Although my maps dont show it :biggrin: ]
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by R@lph VViggum on Wed Dec 17th 2003 at 3:10am
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"Your impossible ego f--k is like a megalomaniacal tab on my tongue..."

Your a pretty egotistical person, considering you've shown us non of your work.
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by fishy on Wed Dec 17th 2003 at 8:47am
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maybe it's because i've spent a lot of time recently working with a german guy who speaks much better english than i do german, but still has limited ability in conveying his message to me, that i spend a little time trying to figure out what someone means when they don't present it very well.

i took half-dudes comment about the quality of his maps as his way of meaning the opposite. an attempt at sarcasm, if you will. i've also seen this attemped in other threads, that have then gone south at an alarming rate.

lmao @ Doc B. as i read, i pictured this gnarly old guy, dressed in dungarees and a straw hat, saying that as he ruffled the little 'uns hair in a fatherly sort of way. :lol:

/me hides
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by Hornpipe2 on Wed Dec 17th 2003 at 7:24pm
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This board needs a sarcasm tag.
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by half-dude on Wed Dec 17th 2003 at 7:32pm
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Ok Ok... I don't know why you people have such a problem with me, seems to me that most of you people have the problems especaly you Vash. Since only Fishy was intelligant enough to know that my little map comment was sarcasm but for those other people (Vash encluded) here are some answers to your questions

1) Q: Why doesnt he use screenshots?

A: I don't have a format changing program to make my screenshots .jpg format

2) Q: Why can't you spell vary good?

A: I have a learning disability I am behind in writing and math (are you happy now)

3) Q: How old is this guy?

A: Im 15 and vary sad now

I sure how you guys are happy for making me say this.
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by Forceflow on Wed Dec 17th 2003 at 8:35pm
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For your 1st problem: www.irfanview.com

Everything you'll ever need to convert images. (Including batch conversion, pretty handy for all those HL-BMP's.)
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by Dr Brasso on Wed Dec 17th 2003 at 9:26pm
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no, actually, it does not make me happy at all, in fact, quite the opposite....tbh, it never occured to me that you might be at a disadvantage....and if that truly is the case, then i offer my humble, most sincere apologies for sounding so crass...but on the converse, you have to admit, some of your posts are, well, dodgy at best....try and think things through to the best of your ability before you post, it'll help you out in the long run....and, you will hear no further idle banter pertaining to you from me.... :wink:

merry christmas, and peace to ya... :heee:

Doc Brass... :dodgy:
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by KoRnFlakes on Wed Dec 17th 2003 at 10:44pm
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again, Leave the bloke alone. If youve nothing decent to add, Ignore it. Whether his post is any good or not.
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by half-dude on Wed Dec 17th 2003 at 10:47pm
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Well thank you vary much Dr. Brasso and Korn Flakes, It pleases me to know that people might actually care about my feelings I'm just wondering if Vash will be the same as you, since we go back a long way.

and marry christmas to you as well :smile:
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by Dr Brasso on Wed Dec 17th 2003 at 10:50pm
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are you addressing me in particular there Korny? i though i made my feelings clear....and am humble enough to apologise sir....i admit when im wrong....no, it wasnt a very good way to handle it...wnt happen again, bank on that.

Doc Brass... :dodgy:
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by KoRnFlakes on Wed Dec 17th 2003 at 10:53pm
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no m8, Couldnt possibly be just you. So many people slag him off because of bad english. People always choose someone to pick on tbh, Nobody has said anything of the like about my brother yet & his english is just as bad.
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by Cassius on Wed Dec 17th 2003 at 11:41pm
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No need to apologize, considering how the situation played out. If it is indeed true, there's no way in hell we could have ever known beforehand - to insult him despite a disability would be quite enough for me to take his side, but Half-Dude, there's no way we could have possibly guessed that.

We were rather inconsiderate, admittedly; unfortunately we get a large enough volume of newbies that we rarely take the time to be kind to them anymore. However, Vash made an honest mistake, and I saw no sarcasm in your words either.

The reason a good deal of us (myself included) found you annoying is that you post a lot of questions/ideas, which are generally vague at best. Case in point, this thread. Try to make your questions be specific, and only post ideas for mods and the like when you have a clear idea.

Doc Cass... :dodgy:
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by Vash on Thu Dec 18th 2003 at 3:17am
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I'm just wondering if Vash will be the same as you, since we go back a long way.
What in gods name are you talking about...? I have never talked to you through any form rather than complaining about your writing and such.

Thanks cass, I will leave Hl-dude alone...As long as he doesnt claim to know me..
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by half-dude on Thu Dec 18th 2003 at 5:22am
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Ok, I'm sorry for exploding like that. It was just as much as I could take and I just wanted to be sure you got the point. :sad: Oh, and sorry for singleing you out Vash :dorky:
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by Yak_Fighter on Thu Dec 18th 2003 at 7:02am
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Half-Dude, don't let people on the internet get you down. It is just text on a computer screen, nobody really knows you. And, don't get discouraged by people here, stick with it, ignore the jabs, and keep on truckin'...or keep on keepin' on, whichever you prefer.
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Thu Dec 18th 2003 at 11:22pm
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pats halfdude affectionately

You can convert /bmps into .jpgs with mspaint! Just open the image and go to File > Save As and change the extention.
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by Dr Brasso on Fri Dec 19th 2003 at 12:12am
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ya know, the more i think about this, the worse i feel.....it is completely uncharacteristic of me to kick someone when they are down....let alone berade someone i dont know....again, my humble apologies. i will tell you that this thread has made me see some "new light".....re-evaluate, if you will....

half dude, if you need a proggy to work with , gimme a holler, i'd like to help.

Doc B... :dodgy:
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by Tracer Bullet on Fri Dec 19th 2003 at 1:33am
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Alien_Sniper said:
pats halfdude affectionately

You can convert /bmps into .jpgs with mspaint! Just open the image and go to File > Save As and change the extention.
That has not worked for me in the past. the images turned out totaly f**ked.
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by Monqui on Fri Dec 19th 2003 at 1:42am
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MSpaint is "pwn." It can do no wrong, you must be mistaken.
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by wil5on on Fri Dec 19th 2003 at 3:07am
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Tracer, youre prolly using an older version of paint. Ive never had a problem with Paint & JPG, except back in the days of yore when I was still running w98. Since w98 ][, I beleive, all versions of paint have had full jpg support.

Yes, I was using 1st edition of 98. :crash:
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by Cash Car Star on Fri Dec 19th 2003 at 8:13am
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I'd just like to point out, since such a thing has been implied, that I do not ever answer posts and then mark it as a correct answer. If I see someone post a "perfect" answer, I may mark it, but I almost always let the poster choose and more caretake the ones who's original poster forgot about them. I try not to mark my own posts blue - I realize how unfair that seems.

And paint isn't terrific for jpg's, but it does get the job done.
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by Hornpipe2 on Sat Dec 20th 2003 at 7:23pm
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Monqui said:
MSpaint is "pwn." It can do no wrong, you must be mistaken.
You're damn right about that one. Need I remind you of my l337 MSPaint skillz again?
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by Forceflow on Sat Dec 20th 2003 at 8:28pm
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MsPaint is quick & dirty. In combination with Irfanview, all I need for basic picture-editing.
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by Gorbachev on Sat Dec 20th 2003 at 8:33pm
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My goal:

Make a map with only MSPaint and Notepad. (and Wally I guess to make a .wad)
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by Forceflow on Sat Dec 20th 2003 at 8:38pm
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For "cartoony" maps, the textures would be possible with paint, I guess.

But writing a map in notepad ? Sounds like darn hell to me !
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by wil5on on Sun Dec 21st 2003 at 8:07am
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Why does everyone dis mspaint? Ive never been able to understand it. MSPaint is the uBer l33t image editor! OK, not exactly. But, theres nothing actually wrong with it. It was meant as a "bare-bones" type image editor, and it acheived this goal, and then some.
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by Gorbachev on Sun Dec 21st 2003 at 8:17am
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It's just that, barebones. Not efficient, not pretty and doesn't have many options. Nothing outstanding will come from that program that cannot be outdone by a bajillion times from a Photo/Paint Shop program.
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by Hornpipe2 on Sun Dec 21st 2003 at 6:53pm
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Gorbachev said:
My goal:

Make a map with only MSPaint and Notepad. (and Wally I guess to make a .wad)
What, no compile tools?
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by OtZman on Tue Dec 23rd 2003 at 2:48pm
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Forceflow said:
But writing a map in notepad ? Sounds like darn hell to me !
Is that actually possible?

:jawdrop:
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by Forceflow on Tue Dec 23rd 2003 at 5:05pm
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Yeah, it's possible.

You need to be completely gaga to do it, but it's possible.
Re: sloppy maping? Posted by Myrk- on Wed Dec 24th 2003 at 2:28am
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k this topic has either gone way off or evil and bitter....

:leper: