Leak in Hull 1

Warning: === LEAK in hull 1 ===

I cannot figure this out from the pointfile. I'm about to start trying the "big block" method. however, I thought I should post this because I have never gotten a leak in hull 1 before. is there somthing special about it that I should know? for starters, what are the different hulls?

I've had a look through past posts concerning leaks in hull 1 (although never just # 1) and one person seems to have solved the problem by retexturing everything. needless to say, I don't want to do that.... However, this possibility makes me think the many textures I am missing might be part of the problem.

If you read this CrackerJack, please send me the latest spla.wad.

I have included the entire log in case I have overlooked somthing that might help.

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hlcsg v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7 (Dec 9 2002)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (merlinis@bigpond.net.au)
----- BEGIN hlcsg -----
Command line: "C:\\Games\\Half-Life\\SDK\\Map Tools\\HLCSG.EXE"-nowadtextures -texdata 8192 "C:\\Games\\Half-Life\\SDK\\Hammer Editor\\maps\\SPLA\\PitCrewmap2.map"
Entering C:\\Games\\Half-Life\\SDK\\Hammer Editor\\maps\\SPLA\\PitCrewmap2.map

Current hlcsg Settings
Name | Setting | Default
---------------------|-----------|-------------------------
threads [ 1 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ off ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 8388608 ] [ 4194304 ]
priority [ Normal ] [ Normal ]

noclip [ off ] [ off ]
null texture stripping[ on ] [ on ]
clipnode economy mode [ on ] [ on ]
onlyents [ off ] [ off ]
wadtextures [ off ] [ on ]
skyclip [ on ] [ on ]
hullfile [ None ] [ None ]
min surface area [ 0.500 ] [ 0.500 ]
brush union threshold [ 0.000 ] [ 0.000 ]

Using mapfile wad configuration
Wadinclude list :
[zhlt.wad]

46 brushes (totalling 300 sides) discarded from clipping hulls
CreateBrush:
(44.65 seconds)
SetModelCenters:
(0.00 seconds)
CSGBrush:
(13.78 seconds)

Using Wadfile: \\games\\half-life\\valve\\spla.wad

• Contains 3 used textures, 1.21 percent of map (9 textures in wad)

Using Wadfile: \\games\\half-life\\valve\\liquids.wad

• Contains 1 used texture, 0.40 percent of map (32 textures in wad)

Using Wadfile: \\games\\half-life\\valve\\halflife.wad

• Contains 208 used textures, 83.87 percent of map (3116 textures in wad)

Using Wadfile: \\games\\half-life\\valve\\lava.wad

• Contains 3 used textures, 1.21 percent of map (3 textures in wad)

Using Wadfile: \\games\\half-life\\valve\\waterfall.wad

• Contains 1 used texture, 0.40 percent of map (32 textures in wad)

added 26 additional animating textures.
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture NULL not found!
Are you sure you included zhlt.wad in your wadpath list?
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture LEETBLOCK not found!
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture POLICEBLOCK not found!
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture LEGOMAN_YELLOW not found!
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture LEETSLEEVECUF not found!
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture LEETLEGRBACK not found!
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture LEETLEGROUTT not found!
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture LEETBROWN not found!
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture LEETLEGRINNE not found!
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture LEETBOOTBOTTOM not found!
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture LEETLEGR not found!
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture LEETLEGBK not found!
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture LEETLEGSIDE not found!
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture LEETBOOTTOP not found!
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture LEETBELTFT not found!
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture LEETBELTBACK not found!
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture LEETLEGL not found!
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture LEETSHOULDERS not found!
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture LEETFT not found!
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture LEETBK not found!
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture LEETFACE2 not found!
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture BLACKBLOCK not found!
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture {PIPES not found!
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture GO_SHAFT2 not found!
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture CSTRIKE_ME2RSTW not found!
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture PO_DOORMETAL04 not found!
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture {KL_WWWIRECOM not found!
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture {KL_TRASH not found!
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture GO_DOOR09 not found!
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture GO_DOOR07A not found!
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture {GO_GRID02 not found!
Warning: ::FindTexture() texture SCROLLDEDICATE not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture BLACKBLOCK not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture CSTRIKE_ME2RSTW not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture GO_DOOR07A not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture GO_DOOR09 not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture GO_SHAFT2 not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture LEETBELTBACK not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture LEETBELTFT not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture LEETBK not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture LEETBLOCK not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture LEETBOOTBOTTOM not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture LEETBOOTTOP not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture LEETBROWN not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture LEETFACE2 not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture LEETFT not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture LEETLEGBK not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture LEETLEGL not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture LEETLEGR not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture LEETLEGRBACK not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture LEETLEGRINNE not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture LEETLEGROUTT not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture LEETLEGSIDE not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture LEETSHOULDERS not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture LEETSLEEVECUF not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture LEGOMAN_YELLOW not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture NULL not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture POLICEBLOCK not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture PO_DOORMETAL04 not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture SCROLLDEDICATE not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture {GO_GRID02 not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture {KL_TRASH not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture {KL_WWWIRECOM not found!
Warning: ::LoadLump() texture {PIPES not found!
Texture usage is at 2.95 mb (of 8.00 mb MAX)
63.42 seconds elapsed [1m 3s]

----- END hlcsg -----

hlbsp v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7 (Dec 9 2002)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (merlinis@bigpond.net.au)
----- BEGIN hlbsp -----
Command line: "C:\\Games\\Half-Life\\SDK\\Map Tools\\HLBSP.EXE""C:\\Games\\Half-Life\\SDK\\Hammer Editor\\maps\\SPLA\\PitCrewmap2.map"

Current hlbsp Settings
Name | Setting | Default
-------------------|-----------|-------------------------
threads [ 1 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ off ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
priority [ Normal ] [ Normal ]

noclip [ off ] [ off ]
nofill [ off ] [ off ]
null tex. stripping [ on ] [ on ]
notjunc [ off ] [ off ]
subdivide size [ 240 ] [ 240 ] (Min 64) (Max 512)
max node size [ 1024 ] [ 1024 ] (Min 64) (Max 4096)

BSP generation successful, writing portal file 'C:\\Games\\Half-Life\\SDK\\Hammer Editor\\maps\\SPLA\\PitCrewmap2.prt'
Warning: === LEAK in hull 1 ===
Entity info_player_start @ ( 312,-624,-152)
Error:
A LEAK is a hole in the map, where the inside of it is exposed to the
(unwanted) outside region. The entity listed in the error is just a helpful
indication of where the beginning of the leak pointfile starts, so the
beginning of the line can be quickly found and traced to until reaching the
outside. Unless this entity is accidentally on the outside of the map, it
probably should not be deleted. Some complex rotating objects entities need
their origins outside the map. To deal with these, just enclose the origin
brush with a solid world brush

Leak pointfile generated

35.59 seconds elapsed

----- END hlbsp -----

netvis v2.5.3 rel (May 2 2001)
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (zoner@gearboxsoftware.com)
----- BEGIN netvis -----
Command line: "C:\\Games\\Half-Life\\SDK\\Map Tools\\NETVIS.EXE"-full -server "C:\\Games\\Half-Life\\SDK\\Hammer Editor\\maps\\SPLA\\PitCrewmap2.map"
ZHLT NETVIS Server

There was a problem compiling the map.
Check the file C:\\Games\\Half-Life\\SDK\\Hammer Editor\\maps\\SPLA\\PitCrewmap2.log for the cause.

----- END netvis -----

hlrad v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7 (Dec 9 2002)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (merlinis@bigpond.net.au)
----- BEGIN hlrad -----
Command line: "C:\\Games\\Half-Life\\SDK\\Map Tools\\HLRAD.EXE""C:\\Games\\Half-Life\\SDK\\Hammer Editor\\maps\\SPLA\\PitCrewmap2.map"

There was a problem compiling the map.
Check the file C:\\Games\\Half-Life\\SDK\\Hammer Editor\\maps\\SPLA\\PitCrewmap2.log for the cause.

----- END hlrad -----

hlbsp: Error:
A LEAK is a hole in the map, where the inside of it is exposed to the
(unwanted) outside region. The entity listed in the error is just a helpful
indication of where the beginning of the leak pointfile starts, so the
beginning of the line can be quickly found and traced to until reaching the
outside. Unless this entity is accidentally on the outside of the map, it
probably should not be deleted. Some complex rotating objects entities need
their origins outside the map. To deal with these,

Hull 0 is your light hull, any miniscule breach in it will cause that to leak. Hulls 1 - 3 are clipping hulls, and are of various sizes: Standing Gordon, Crouching Gordon, etc. These actually can be specified by a mod if you want to but that's not important. I have seen one thing cause Hulls 1 - 3 to leak but not Hull 0- so you probably have a worldbrush on the exterior of your map covered with a !texture. This turns it into a water brush for clipping, but it still blocks light so you won't leak in Hull 0. So you may want to look over that.

Also, sometimes finicky things happen when earlier processes don't proceed as planned... that problem may rectify itself when you fix all those missing textures.

Your textures are too leet.

Thanks Cash, I'll check that out.

Cass, I have no idea who used all the leet textures

I won't mark anyone's answers as correct untill I have solved the problem, that way if anyone else posts somthing usefull I can give everyone credit. :smile:

When I compiled the map for my testing, I backed up the original and then selected the "Missing Feature" texture, then used Hammer's check for problems to replace all missing textures with this one. I never had any problems with that...

Problem found: However, I am still confused.



You can see the end of the pointfile poking through that skybrush. the wall behind is a SINGLE brush with all normal world textures. placeing the skybrush there has fixed the "leak". I think maybe I will put in a light fixture or somthing to solve the problem

There seem to be a lot of wacky leak errors about recently; is there a problem with Merl's tools or whatever it is that everyone uses?

I dono. tis quite possible though.

Tracer Bullet said:
Problem found: However, I am still confused.

please tell us you didn't carve that cylinder into the wall TB :biggrin:

Tracer Bullet said:
Problem found: However, I am still confused.

please tell us you didn't carve that cylinder into the wall TB :biggrin:

Which one?....

nope, no carving was done.

I suppose Fishy means the one behind Gordon.

The map has increased in scale somewhat since I last saw it.

Yup. I realized when I was inserting my section that I had overshot the size of the other sections by quite a bit.

I had a case of this when using the XP-Cagey tools. As a result, he found and fixed a bug in the clipping hull calculations. It's possible there are still other bizarre solids that could make a map leak in the clipping hull, if you compile it with Cagey's tools.

shrug

Why is it that TB has a model of gordon and I have just a cube?

Hammer 3.5 my friend.. with an edited .fgd :biggrin:

all models are rendered.

Im too lazzy to make that switch.. Oh well, when I next reformat I will.

Wild Card said:
Im too lazzy to make that switch.. Oh well, when I next reformat I will.

switch..??

you upgrade to 3.5

you export all the models to hammer

you place the new fgd.

you got models in hammer.. whats the format?

I had a fun "Leak" that didn't exist. For some reason when I compiled a map it said I had a leak, but I was sure that I was dilligent enough to not have that, I spent a good 20-30 mins tinkering and ended up copying pasting the whole thing (the first one didn't compile) into a new file without changing anything, and voila! it compiled no problem.

when I reformat my drive and have a reason to reinstall VHE. lol

I don't like 3.5 but that's probably because it was a beta and seemed less stable when I used it. I probably did something to deliberately crash it though, like creating a box and asking it to compile or something.

EDIT: Tracer, I meant your section has a rather tall ceiling in that screenshot. Plus that is one friggin' huge pipe.

The high ceiling is to accomidate my "animated" skybox, and the huge bipe is meant to pring the molten metal from Money's section... it was a late addition to get the directions right so I wouldn't confuse the player.

Christ... just took a peek at the map. Its very good so far, but appears to have quite alot of errors in it. Looking fine though... :smile:

I lov your signiture Trace, vary true.