CS: source beta

Okay so all of you might know valve released Counter Strike: source beta version via steam (sorry to all you steam dislikers) to peopel who have bought the valve premere package (what I did) or to anyone who got CS:CZ, but when im playing the game I must say....OHH WOW Half Life 2 is going to be great. Just getting a look at what the source engine can do makes me confident that Half-Life 2 is going to be great. Not only have the graphics improved, but also the interactivity, now you can shoot a barrel (big deal right?) and take cover behind it! So to all of you who havent experenced it.....your missing out on a major scale. The only significant downside to this currently is the lag (probably due to the shere amount of people downloading) and the drop in fps (not so much to where I cared). Also the "demo" as I like to call it has a hardware benchmarking tool on it, it takes you through the area with the glass window of gordon in the e³ 2003 HL2 video and gives you an average fps (mine was 29.9). I suggest getting this if possible to see where you stand on runing HL2 when it comes out.

now you can shoot a barrel (big deal right?) and take cover behind it!

Quick, where's my wallet!

Some screenshots and shots of weapons here: http://www.csnation.net/view.php/cssource/compare.csn

P.s: Paragraphs. :wink:

You know, CS Source looks great and all, and its pretty fun. But goddammit I f**king hate "dust".

I take it dust is the only map available? Also has anyone noticed any serious bugs within source? /jealousy

Not really, since, I doubt they really worked on source until the engine was 100% complete. And then, even after that they took cs 1.6 code and changed the weapon values and thats about it. I mean, it isn't CS2 or anything.

Well, at least Dust looks like a real place now in that screenshot. Shame we're only seeing CS though and nothing of any interest :razz:

The trees look really realisitc, very impressive.

Looks in despair at 56k pay-as-you-go.

And I have CZ too! moan

It would be better if they gave 2 maps or more instead of one.

Sorry by source I meant the engine. I noticed in a screenshot here that there was a barrel going into a cinderblock.

I'm leaving work early today so I can have a play with it (CS:Source...not it, you dirty minded sods :wink: ).

Would have been able to play last night had it not been for US Wednesday = some time Thursday for UK :smile:

It's a shame they haven't released the editor yet, I mean, they have the Source engine out now so why stop people from mapping (or at least starting to map and get a grip with what the engine is capable of).

Mail Gabe and ask :smile:

Well, at least Dust looks like a real place now in that screenshot. Shame we're only seeing CS though and nothing of any interest :razz:

DoD source ... drools

JFry said:
Sorry by source I meant the engine. I noticed in a screenshot here that there was a barrel going into a cinderblock.

I enjoy stuff like this once in a while, gives me proof when I'm looking at games that they're actually real shots not renders. :razz:

Its really nice.. I have fun playing it for sure. The source engine has so much potential omai!

Looking round the map in spectator mode gives the impression that levels are built exactly the same way as HL1 too which is a big plus :biggrin:

Yeah, definately looks promising. Might be able to just dive in and negate a lot of the learning curve altogether. :smile:

CS is starting to look like America's Army.

http://www.americasarmy.com/

Bugs: Mouse is jittery even with mouse filter on

The "missing texture from wad" texture appears as the background image!!

I honestly don't remember the AK47 ever being that accurate/effecitive...

WHAT? NO NEW WEAPONS? WAHH!!!

Lower body animation stinks on all models.

Do these guys have back problems? Even the guys in Raven Shield looked more relaxed than these guys...

G.Ballblue said:
I honestly don't remember the AK47 ever being that accurate/effecitive...

would that be from when you were in the Russian army?

Well the nice details such as the tree tops and the high detials (wires, Dome tops ect...) All this is made with a sorta teliportation recorder kinda thingy liek the sky box is the place were it shows these things its very hard to explain but off to teh side of the map are teh outside ground of dust and it has all the houses and hold a few other things and its all very small maybe a 1 in 15 to 20 scale of the original this is so that it doesnt cause a major lagg issue in graphics similar to bump mapping in a different way you should all try this out get CS source and create shortcut on desktop go to properties on it put in -console and then apply. after so load it up and type in sv_cheats 1 then load up the map and type in noclip when u move around outside the box you will see this littel thing looking liek land with a whoel in teh middle that right there is the thing im talking about.

I just wanted to fill your minds with some info i discovered a bit ago..... as if you guys didnt know if you already know this ohh well.....

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There's a pile of full stops for you. Use them as you see fit. :wink:

fishy said:

G.Ballblue said:
I honestly don't remember the AK47 ever being that accurate/effecitive...

would that be from when you were in the Russian army?

No. It would be from when Counter-Strike didn't even load the correct main menu. :razz:

Also, you wouldn't have to be in the Russian army. The Cold War has made the AK47 the most common assault rifle in the world (and China has discovered it can make money selling it, ensuring that it will remain common. WOOT!), followed by the M16.

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It is similar to how UT handles sky boxes. The sky is "3D", with a
little room off to the side with the actual sky geometry in it. Then, a
camera entity in the little room renders out the room as a skybox. I
believe Spirit of Half-Life can already do this in HL1.

I'm god.

Ferret said:
I'm god.

Thank you for that commentary.

When we need an entirely random, pointless thing to say, we'll always turn to you in the future from now on! :biggrin:

I believe Spirit of Half-Life can already do this in HL1.

It can... but due to HLs vis algortithm, you have to do some funky brushwork otherwise you cant see entities in the sky... its really not all that good.

You can see brush entities easily enough, if you make them obscenely
huge and bind multiple brushes into them. VIS will get confused and
will just decide to "always" render it. So, you could have, say, flying
birds and such in the skybox! :smile:

G.Ballblue said:

Ferret said:
I'm god.

Thank you for that commentary.

When we need an entirely random, pointless thing to say, we'll always turn to you in the future from now on! :biggrin:

Yeah ferret, what the f**k?

I'm god.

cmon cass, lets SHARE. We both rocked splinter didn't we?

WANT NOW!!

(possibly it'll be active in the following weeks)

no doubt

I press the pre-load now button, but nothing happens :sad:

I know, they're teasing us. I guess its old actually ... looks like they tried to blow their load early.

That's one way to put it. :kitty:

It's just a "linky" with no destination...

http://www.steampowered.com/marketing/hl2_preload/english.html
this?
or
http://www.steampowered.com/marketing/hl2_preload/spanish.html
http://www.steampowered.com/marketing/hl2_preload/french.html
http://www.steampowered.com/marketing/hl2_preload/german.html
http://www.steampowered.com/marketing/hl2_preload/japanese.html
http://www.steampowered.com/marketing/hl2_preload/korean.html

Is it me, or have 'wrecked cars' become the new crates? It seems like almost every single shot of HL2 / CS:S has a wrecked car in it.

Yep. The new "crates":

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Anyone seen these screenshots before?:
http://half-life2.com/secret/shots/
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The HL2 preload will become active on Monday, and it will only have things like textures and sounds, things that definately will not be changed. It won't be the whole game. It's already been delayed from yesterday, but that's because all of the CS:S preloading was eating the Steam bandwith, and instroducing a universal HL2 preload would just kill the network.

Personally if I actually buy a game, I like to have the box and an actual disc. Not that the steam method is much of an option for me on 56K at the moment :biggrin:

Same here, But, unless you pay online you can still buy the game box and all at a retailer and enter in the key under steam and your preloaded copy becomes playable.

I'm sure installing from the cd will just copy the GCF file (along with other crap) to your steam folder, so that's probably what you'll do (Because you're buying this game, Jeff ... I know where you live)