15 minute map

15 minute map

Re: 15 minute map Posted by DrGlass on Mon Jan 31st 2005 at 6:36am
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Would any one want to do a '15 minute multiplayer map'? I know
that some people from the VERC did something like this with HL1.
I think that most of us know our way around the new hammer and could
produce a semi quality map in an hour or so.

So this is how it would work. we will set a time, like thursday
at 7 EST (-5GMT) and I will host a 'template map' This will consist of
a number of small boxes (1500*1500*1500) that are conected by small
doors. Every one will be assigned an area and we will all start
mapping at a given time. Then after 30-60 minutes we stop.
I will stich all the areas together and compile the map. What
ever we are left with will be the finished product.

This is a good test of skill and speed. Is any one
intrested? If so what is the best day/time for you (be sure to
give your time zone). newbie to expert are invited I supose, as
long as you can finish something that will compile.
Re: 15 minute map Posted by Campaignjunkie on Mon Jan 31st 2005 at 6:43am
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Have you actually tried a 15 mm map yet yourself? The result is usually anything but quality! :biggrin:

I participated in one of the last ones at VERC and it was rather...
interesting. The winner was a hollowed out box of xen textures and a
tunnel thing in the middle, with a magnum at the top. Pretty much all
the maps are laughably bad, but that's where most of the fun is.
Anyways, I'm interested, I guess. Just catch me in #snarkpit whenever.
:smile:
Re: 15 minute map Posted by DrGlass on Mon Jan 31st 2005 at 7:23am
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oh yeah, this will most likely be a pile of crap. Did you make
one map or every one make their own map? I kninda want to do a
mix of 15 min map and DM_frankinstign (sp).
Re: 15 minute map Posted by Gorbachev on Mon Jan 31st 2005 at 8:57am
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I can't do much in 15 minutes.
Re: 15 minute map Posted by Cash Car Star on Mon Jan 31st 2005 at 9:18am
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I don't think doing a Frankenstein map within a fifteen minute timespan is possible unless you are physically in the same room and just trade off shots at the computer.
Re: 15 minute map Posted by Orpheus on Mon Jan 31st 2005 at 10:32am
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<DIV class=quote>
<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting Gorbachev</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>I can't do much in 15 minutes.
</DIV></DIV>

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I wish I could even last that long.
Re: 15 minute map Posted by mazemaster on Mon Jan 31st 2005 at 10:49am
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Speedmapping minute mapping is quite fun despite the fact that the maps suck. I remember doing some speedmapping with the VERC 15 minute mappers along with CJ. Really give it a try some time. If you actually try hard, I think it makes you a better mapper in terms of basic skills like making simple objects fast, mentally translating the 2D views into 3D fast, manipulating the views in Hammre efficiently, and so forth.

Have you ever been far along in making a map, but you want to create a new passage that connects 2 pre-existing areas. Does it take you forever to make the opening in both areas, make the passage basic block outline, make it line up, etc? Do you spend a lot of your mapping time manipulating the views instead of making stuff? Thats the sort of stuff that speedmapping will make you better at. It can also help curb excessively prefectionist tendencies that hinder your creative flow.
Re: 15 minute map Posted by Junkyard God on Mon Jan 31st 2005 at 11:15am
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15 minutes 0_0 my computer can't andle hammer 4 for more than 11 :sad: ( I timed it!)

anyway good luck :smile:
Re: 15 minute map Posted by Pegs on Mon Jan 31st 2005 at 11:19am
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Gorbachev said:
I can't do much in 15 minutes.
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I wish I could even last that long.
lol

edit: oops, logged in as my brother :S
Re: 15 minute map Posted by Myrk- on Mon Jan 31st 2005 at 1:26pm
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I'll do it if its 30-60 minutes.
Re: 15 minute map Posted by $loth on Mon Jan 31st 2005 at 3:41pm
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My bit would look like a kill box in 15 mins :razz:
Re: 15 minute map Posted by DrGlass on Mon Jan 31st 2005 at 4:55pm
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maybe it was a bad idea to say 15 minutes. That is just the name
that some people will rember, I think that an hour would be
better.

so one hour to complete one room to make one map. how does that sound?
Re: 15 minute map Posted by OtZman on Mon Jan 31st 2005 at 6:52pm
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Guess I could participate in this and embarrass myself.
Re: 15 minute map Posted by Crono on Mon Jan 31st 2005 at 6:54pm
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Xtreem 'Mapping', eh?

It could be done if you planned rigorously ... but still shoddy.
I hope I never have to work in an XP environment. It sounds incredibly stressful.
Re: 15 minute map Posted by DrGlass on Mon Jan 31st 2005 at 7:27pm
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I'll post somthing on my web site soon.
Re: 15 minute map Posted by Gorbachev on Mon Jan 31st 2005 at 8:30pm
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Gorbachev said:
I can't do much in 15 minutes.
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I wish I could even last that long.
tumbleweed

I think 15 mins would be a new speed record :razz:

Gotta keep the world average up somehow, just doin' my job. :smile:
Re: 15 minute map Posted by Myrk- on Mon Jan 31st 2005 at 8:38pm
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How about do a map in 1 hour, then compile your map. You have to be honest about it though. Maybe we will meet on IRC or something, then set a start time and end. When time is up we will all submit our maps to someone, then we each compile our own maps (the sending rmf is just to verify nothing new has been added).

Then we can judge them at the end. It can be the new 2005 snarkpit mapping contest, that way the deadlines arn't constantly changed.
Re: 15 minute map Posted by DrGlass on Mon Jan 31st 2005 at 8:52pm
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How about do a map in 1 hour, then compile your map. You have to
be honest about it though. Maybe we will meet on IRC or something, then
set a start time and end. When time is up we will all submit our maps
to someone, then we each compile our own maps (the sending rmf is just
to verify nothing new has been added).
Then we can judge them at the end. It can be the new 2005 snarkpit
mapping contest, that way the deadlines arn't constantly changed.
I wanted to make something that would be stiched together into one
map. That could be another project, it would be hard to ensure
everyone was on the level.
Re: 15 minute map Posted by OtZman on Mon Jan 31st 2005 at 9:44pm
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What about if you at a certain time send the template to all that want
to participate and then let them make their given part, and then they
send them back to you one hour later? Then you can fix them all
together and compile.
Re: 15 minute map Posted by DrGlass on Mon Jan 31st 2005 at 10:03pm
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What about if you at a certain time send the template to all that want
to participate and then let them make their given part, and then they
send them back to you one hour later? Then you can fix them all
together and compile.
that is what I want to do, Myrk was talking about a compitition.

What I want to do is a 1 hour group project, kind of a down scaled
project that I am working on
right
now.
Re: 15 minute map Posted by Myrk- on Mon Jan 31st 2005 at 10:41pm
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I'd rather not stitch them all together tbh. Maybe people can choose to stitch, but I'd rather only join mine to 1 or 2 others, or maybe not join it at all.
Re: 15 minute map Posted by DrGlass on Mon Jan 31st 2005 at 10:49pm
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I'm not talking about taking a map you made and editing it onto another
map, you would start mapping a template (like a hollow box with holes
that will lead to other maps) and everyone would finish their area of
the whole map in one hour.

So in the end everyone will make one room each and all those rooms will be attached to make one big map.
Re: 15 minute map Posted by Captain P on Mon Jan 31st 2005 at 11:08pm
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And then you'll find out some rooms overlap... wich is likely to happen imho.

Though the template idea sounds good to me. A bit like the TheWall
contest, where you had to remake an official HLDM map and give it a
total different theme. So give each one the same template and see how
they fill it in?

Or just stick to the time limit only and let everyone do his own thing. Some time planned already?
Re: 15 minute map Posted by DrGlass on Mon Feb 14th 2005 at 12:12am
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I'm doing a community map, and the truth is that it is going really
slow. I want to keep the time limit so this project will get done.

I'm going to shoot for next week.
Re: 15 minute map Posted by Oski on Mon Feb 14th 2005 at 3:13pm
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Im in! But i think the map will get quite.. hmm. lousy? i mean, here we have a room. Then comes another room. then another... on and on. i wont be much of a map. just a bunch of rooms connected to eachother. but it might be fun though =).
Re: 15 minute map Posted by Kaos_Nyrb on Mon Feb 14th 2005 at 5:00pm
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If this is goning to happen you can count me in :smile:
Re: 15 minute map Posted by Nickelplate on Mon Feb 14th 2005 at 5:03pm
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I would like to do a map like this. it sounds fun.
Re: 15 minute map Posted by DrGlass on Mon Feb 14th 2005 at 6:46pm
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I'll start working on the web site.
Re: 15 minute map Posted by Oski on Mon Feb 14th 2005 at 8:59pm
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website? that sounds more ambitious than this map might ever be =)
Re: 15 minute map Posted by DrGlass on Tue Feb 15th 2005 at 10:02am
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not a web site, sorry, a web page. I just got some web space and
I want to put up a page with rules and stuff on it. Any one know
how to make download links usable only once? I'd really like to
have all the map "templates" ready for download then at the first
second of the hour open up the down load page and have it first come
first server.

only problem with that is a sass hat could come on and download all the maps really fast and screw everything up.
Re: 15 minute map Posted by Oski on Tue Feb 15th 2005 at 3:41pm
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hm. maybe we could split up the templates here in this thread?
Re: 15 minute map Posted by Myrk- on Tue Feb 15th 2005 at 5:43pm
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That was the idea anyway...
Re: 15 minute map Posted by Chaoticon on Wed Feb 16th 2005 at 1:31am
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Is this thing still going to happen, maybe we can do it once a week, or
once a month. Would be fun and could see everyones progress as a
mapper. Maybe change the scenario everytime.
Re: 15 minute map Posted by DrGlass on Wed Feb 16th 2005 at 7:30am
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Is this thing still going to happen, maybe we can do it once a week, or
once a month. Would be fun and could see everyones progress as a
mapper. Maybe change the scenario everytime.
yeah thats what i was hopping