a surprise for the community

No, not DoD:Source. DoD, like CS, is completely independent of the Half-Life/Half-Life 2 setting. It's in WW2. HL2 is set in a sci-fi near future.

Wolfenstein Enemy Territory was originally designed by Splash Damage as an add-on for RtCW. It was 'cancelled' and then released publicly as a stand-alone MP game that has become one of the most popular online. A comparable MP mode for HL2 would be rebels/freedom fighters vs. Combine on the streets of City 17, in the coastal regions, and anywhere else imaginable in the HL2 universe. Though if TF2 were done this way, it would seem better suited to an expansion than a retail product. shrug

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<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting Orpheus</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>they had better not attempt to introduce any other MP crap until they have released HL2DM

TFC was s**t before, it will be s**t again, i am not keen on waiting for HL2DM just because of it.

also, no updates on CS either, they already treated everyone to CS/S, its time for some quality HLDM now.. I want the FULL SDK, or whatever it will take to get a valve sanctioned DM map made.

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Amen, I hated TFC and I already HAVE all the CS:S stuff i need right now. I have a feeling I am really going to get let down.

I think the "surprise" is the release of DoD:Source. It's already on
the games list, you know. Or it could be that big mappack for CS:S.
Which would suck.

that would be nice, im going to buy the ce soon so il be able to play
dod:s as soon as i got it. although its not lightly there going to
release it yet.

truth be told, i have completely lost interest at this point. i am still exactly where i was when i started, i just met alyx. between all these Xmas comps and real life things, i haven't had any time to drum up a lot of interest.

perhaps after the holidays.

hell, after i installed the editor, i didn't even set it up yet.

finding out that it shipped with no DM took all the wind out of my sails. :sad:

I'm inclined to agree with you mate - had there been a DM mode out of
the box, I'd certainly have been playing and editing a whole lot more.
As it stands, I've worn through the novelty of CS:S, and Halo 2 has
grabbed away. I found HL2 an excellent single player game, but I think
a good DM mode would have inspired me to map far more.

Not to mention a fully working, bug free SDK. I sure as s**t would be doing a tonne of mapping right now if they'd released something that worked most of the time and was actually finished. Especially if you could "officially" map for games other than CS: Source.

bleh, multiplayer sux tbh, make a cool singleplayer mod then

It's called Half-Life 2 ...

hl2 is not a mod , is it...... :cool:

Not to mention a fully working, bug free SDK. I sure as s**t
would be doing a tonne of mapping right now if they'd released
something that worked most of the time and was actually finished.
Especially if you could "officially" map for games other than CS:
Source.

The full version is being released this week.

I know that Kage, I was saying it would have been nice to have released a fully working SDK in the first place, rather than release something that only half works some of the time, frustrating most people.

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<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting Agent Smith</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>Not to mention a fully working, bug free SDK. I sure as s**t would be doing a tonne of mapping right now if they'd released something that worked most of the time and was actually finished. Especially if you could "officially" map for games other than CS: Source.</DIV></DIV>

I can't seem to find City 17 textures --- release the full version of everything damnit! SDK, Hl2, CS: S! GET ON WITH IT VALVE!
/rants for another 20 minutes and then plays cs:s

Coming in late to rain on everybody's parade by saying there won't be a HL2DM released by Valve. They've stated it before, and if they could have made it in 3 weeks then why didn't they do it during HL2's development time? Tis a shame really.

I highly doubt Valve would have waited to start anything they were going to release this soon until after HL2 was gold/released. They've got the staff to keep multiple projects running; there's no telling what they've been working on or for how long (though we do have a better idea with them than with most companies).