I heard some very depressing news lately.

Star Trek Enterprise is being canceled. It is IMO, on par with TNG and they are canceling it this year.

/Me wishes Juim were around to fill in the blanks.

I've never liked Star Trek much, so... yeah.

Star Trek Enterprise is cancelled. This is because of lackluster ratings on the UPN network. I think Rick Berman and Brannon Braga are solely to blame, due to their lack of vision, and poor understandings of the sci-fi world. They started with DS9(decent, but no TNG by a long shot) Voyager(way not better than DS9), and finally Enterprise(slight improvement over Voyager). I feel their main problem was the writing. I tuned in to an episode once and was astounded that I was watching a blatant rip off of "Enemy Mine". It was at this point that I knew the franchise was in trouble. Now believe me, I want nothing more than to enjoy a good ST episode of any kind(and I tune in whenever I am off of work to Spike TV, they have TNG on twice a day in tha am), but for the last 15 years or so ST has been off and on.

Orph, I will poke around Paramount next time I am there and see whats on the horizon. I'll keep ya posted.

Ripped material or not, it was moving up in my esteem. perhaps its because i am a bakula fan i dunno, but i genuinely thought it had a future. it was a real shock when i heard. in fact, they are supposed to write riker and troy into the last two episodes somehow. maybe its like the zephram thing i dunno.

thanx for the heads up, and yes, please keep me posted.

i heard from my trekkie friend that enterprise kind of sucked compared to the other star trek series, but i guess its all opio nin which is the best.

He always updated the whole class on how much money trek united had gotten.

I'm glad that lame dog is finally being put down, it has to be the
worst Star Trek series of all time. They ruined the sequence when they
went back in time instead of forward. If they'd done an even more
futuristic series that could have been better. They also cast Scott
Bakula in the lead role, why didn't they learn that he can't act from
Tom Clancy's Net Force.

I'd have to say that the early seasons of DS9 were better than Voyager,
but it really went down the s**tter from about half-way onwards.
Voyager wasn't too bad at all, I quite enjoyed it, and it seemed to
generally get better as it went along.

But the ultimate god of Star Trek is NG, I could sit down and watch
every single one of those episodes again. An awesome cast of characters
and actors (go Patrick Stewart) and probably some of the best episode
writers of any sci-fi series.

While we're on the topic of sci-fi, does anyone watch Stargate SG-1? It
seems they're winding the series down, which is a shame, and are
replacing it with the new SG: Atlantis, which up till this point seems
pretty good.

Enterprise was pretty poor, I'd say. Though it was somewhat intriguing
to see a rougher, inexperienced starfleet, they kind of squandered it
quickly. There were some interesting call-outs to the fans, but as I
understand it they lost 90% of their audience. Not surprising it's been
cancelled.

Stargate SG-1 was a good show but seems to have run its course. At
least they've recognised that and are ending it soon. Atlantis I never
really connected with the characters much, but we'll see how they get
on next season.

The best SF on TV recently was the excellent Battlestar Galactica
remake. Astounding how they could take a campy late-70s show and turn
it into dark and punchy series with strong characters and plot. Well
worth seeking out if you missed it. I can't wait until June for the
next season.

I don't even know what you all are talking about "enterprise," but i tihnk Scott Bakula is teh 1337. Remember Quantum Leap? :biggrin:

I blame the theme tune, myself. But this being cancelled isn't really modern news- there was a huge campaign over the last few months to raise several millions of dollars to commission a new series, but Paramount still refused to make another series (and said they would even if the money was raised). Just read today too that there had been an Enterprise film planned, but it's now been thrown into the same bin as the series :/

Seems that I am the only one whom saw the true potential here. Filling in all the blanks would have been so nice.

Still, if the series's had been made in sequence, it might not have clouded so many people against Enterprise perhaps. You don't know how many people I hear whom constantly compare each series to TNG. It seems that absolutely no one but I can remember just how horrible the first couple of seasons were. TNG was great, but it had a horrible beginning, just like the rest.

I dunno, perhaps its just human nature to compare similarities between things. Most here keep measuring FPS games to HL. I take each game and compare it to... itself. I do the same with Trek. I feel Enterprise had the most potential because it did not have to follow the same rules. There was not as much technology, more people could have died from accidents. There could have been whole bunches of shows about the tech being discovered. There were so many planets in the federation. Some of them had to have not wanted to join in the beginning.

Anywho's, I have been a Trek fan since its inception, and look forward to the next installment. We have had a young Captain, an old one, a black one and a female one.. Whats next?

/me goes and sobs quietly in my room.

A gay captain of course.

I thought Voyager was amazing! Best ST series evah! Way better than crappy DS9 and enterprise. Got really hooked on Voyager :razz:

Yay! Trek has finally died!

I blame the theme tune, myself.

/signed

Shame, i really liked the series.

And the old tune was better, dindt like the new one.

Entireprise started horrible but recently its been getting better, so
it was the utmost irony when Enterprise became worth watching that it
was getting canceled

or something like that

I wish they hadn't stopped showing TNG here :/ or TOS :/

Ha ha ever listenened to the original music?
Now that was BAD!

I always liked Star Trek, but would never in a million years consider
myself a trekkie. I never really saw the point in making so many
series'. My review of the Star Trek world:

Original: A camp classic, I can watch those episodes and never tire of them.

Next Generation: Better than the original. Ran its course.

Deep Space Nine: East Enders in space. Lightyears from earth and all they do is hang out in bars, fix things and play darts.

Voyager: Nice baps.

Enterprise: Dear GOD! It just smacks of the American "WE'RE NUMBER ONE"
attitude. And seemed to have a bit of the West Wing thrown in there too.

We're number one! We're Number One!!! we... ahem, yeah i agree with mephs. lol "nice baps" im quite confused as to what "baps" is now because i've heard it used in so many different contexts. Inform plz.

Baps are bread rolls. :wink:

And Enterprise has been patchy. Sometimes it leaves you wanting more, and other times, you feel like never watching it again. Personally, I think it's not too far removed from Voyager - exploring new area of space, fit lycra-clad alien etc.

Orph, there were rumours that the Troi/Riker appearance was going to be on a Holodeck, and that Enterprise was all just one big simulation. Hopefully not though as that'd be one hell of a way to ruin it.

No worse than how they ended Angel, about the only good thing to come
out of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. The execs decided it wasn't making
enough money near the end of the 3rd or 4th season, so the writers had
to wrap it up in about two episodes. Basically half the cast is killed
off and the other half are about to meet certain death. It pissed me
off royally, because it was actually a fair awesome show, and it seemed
a lot of people thought that. There was an online petition going
around, and it ended up getting over 44,000 signatures. Well the execs
realised they'd made a bad choice, but they'd already killed off the
entire cast, so there was no way back except for a hokey dream
sequence. I reckon if they're going to end a show they should at least
do it in a way that would give them the option of picking it up again
at a later date.

Speaking of 'Buffy' and 'Angel': Joss Whedon is a fairly good writer, at least, when it pertains to a group situation. He's doing Astonishing X-Men at the moment (as well) and it's fantastic.

By the way, Enterprise is terrible. There's no way around it. Even TNG was hit or miss, but, you have to really look at the set up of each series. The only ones that were/are remotely good are ones with a well fleshed out cast of talented actors, something TNG was overflowing with. All the other series' short of the original series (which pretty much sucked any way you slice it because it's so ridiculous) lacks in the cast area, the talent is usually sludged off to one or two cast members, combine that with bad teleplays and you have a prime-time-bomb.

I'm just hoping the next Trek movie is good ... not that I thought Nemesis was bad, quite the opposite, however, if you pay attention to the trend with Trek movies every other one is "good". The original movie was terrible, five is terrible, Generations, and Insurrection are also craptacular.

God Bless First Contact.

I am hijacking this thread to say hello

hello!

God Bless First Contact.

Indeed! The only good Jonathan Frakes directed movie (Insurrection being the other Star Trek movie he made ... his other movies are ... just look them up on IMDB and you'll see what I'm talking about).

What is this?! The return of both Crono and Yak in the same thread! Hallelujah...or however you spell it :smile:

Praise the lord!

Cassius said:
Praise the lord!

I promise, it was entirely coincidental, I had nothing to do with this.

Enterprise's Finale sucks

AT least they coulda ended with a good one

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