Gas Prices Around the world

How much is a Gallon or gas where you are. or a Litre of petrol, I guess depending where you are.

For conversion purposes 1 US Gallon = 3.7853 Litres.

If you're wondering why Super unleaded is less than reg. it's coz there's ethanol in the super and ethanol is now officially less expensive to produce than Petrol.

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Up here in Kanata, our prices keep going up. 2 days ago it was
1.00 dollars a litre, then over night it went up to 1.21 dollars a
litre. Our family is starting to have a rough time affording it
for the long distances my parents travel on a daily basis.

Local radio stations are promoting the boycotting of gas stations to
try to f**k them enough that they drop prices, but bottom line you have
to get where you have to get and so you have to pay the price...

/ramble

Interesting topic.

We got one liter diesel at about 1 ? = 1.25 $*

One liter unleaded (Octane 95) 1.30 ? = 1.63 $*

*US Dollars

And thats taken from a cheap gas station.

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$3.23 in some places and $3.45 in others around here (this is regular
gas, not unleaded or super unleaded as i see in your picture)

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"regular gas" has been unleaded since the 70's and maybe the 60's. It's ALL unleaded. What makes it "super" or "Premium" or "leet" is the amount Octane in it.

And yes, the Ozarks is a cheap place for gas compared to most other places.

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Oh, well around here we call it "regular" gas. I wouldn't know much
about gas though seeing how I don't drive :razz: . I did get a car today
though. My sister bought new one and i got her old one to drive
when i turn 16 in 2 years

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it hit 3 dollars and 60 cents for regular gas in burlington vermont.

There's some places around here that have reached $5.96/ Gallon of Regular ... why? Well, Oregon was already getting reamed by gas prices. I think, overall the price is about $3.50, average. Keep in mind, three weeks ago it was about $2.20 at the cheap stations. Before Bush's presidency: $1.20 ...

I believe the state's actually doing something to bring harsh fines to the gas stations that're price gouging.

I'll find out the actual prices around my area next week ... when I get my car back .. god-damned fuel pump ... f**king ford, putting it in the gas-tank ... fuel injectors pos ...

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In Australia we call leaded "Super". No idea why.

Hereabouts its around AU$1.20 a litre.

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It's almost exactly 1 USD per litre of unleaded petrol over here. The high octane petrol costs about 1.1 USD or so.

in north carolina , literally it went up a dollar overnight

from

2.50 usd to 3.50 usd per gallon

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I ride a bike :razz: High gas prices are better for the environent, so I'm f**king cheering. After I get myself moved to Seattle it can go up to $10/gallon for all I care!

Oh, and here's my picky science side again. The "octane" rating on gas has nothing to do with the ammount of octane in the fuel. Gasoline is a mishmash of hydrocarbons between C6 and C14 or so. What the rateing indicates is the degree of branching in the hydrocarbons it contains. The greater the degree of branching the slower it burns. Slower burning fuel is better for your engine because it prevents cylender knocking, and I think the combustion ends up being more complete... I have no idea how they come up with the number though (87, 89, 92).

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Boooooooring.

Bikes own and cars suck. If the gas price would be higher, perhaps this world would be a better place.

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Crono, you are on a bit of an anti-bush posting spree, eh? The president doesn't have the power to effect gas prices even if he wanted to.

Bush's presidency has nothing to do with the high gas prices. They are due to China's unprecedented (10%+ annual) growth rate, as well as a mild decrease in supply, and speculation on the futures market.

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http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/global_gasprices/

does venezuela have some huge oil reserve that they don't want?

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Crono, you are on a bit of an anti-bush posting spree, eh? The president doesn't have the power to effect gas prices even if he wanted to.

Bush's presidency has nothing to do with the high gas prices. They are due to China's unprecedented (10% annual) growth rate, as well as a mild decrease in supply, and speculation on the futures market.

Right, the president has nothing to do with economics. His term's choices have made a direct impact on economical values, especially on oil and the USD. Don't be as dense to think that he actually has no power to do anything about it. He absolutely does. Oh yeah, I'm sure his little tromp through north Africa and South West Asia has nothing to do with oil prices.

But, I can't believe that you'd think that the president, who's job is to protect America , MAKE AMERICA MONEY, and create good relations with other nations isn't responsible for 1/3 of their job. Because, the whole making America money thing, is a big part of being president. It's pathetic that so many of them are so bad at it. (Obviously there are other things too, but these are the main functions)

Pile on top his disregard for natural resources and natural economy and you've got one awful president.

Anyway, enough. It was just a comment.

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I think I saw on a news report that gasoline was up to 6.00$ a gallon
on the east coast. As soon as I heard that I hopped into my can and ran
down to the nearest gas station and filled up on the 2.99$ per gallon.
I think a lot of people were watching the report as well, because there
was a long line to fill up =P.

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besides the president has absolute power because they never repealed
the order of marshall law that was instated after pearl harbor i
believe so if he wants to he can do what he wants

Crono, you are on a bit of an anti-bush posting spree, eh? The president doesn't have the power to effect gas prices even if he wanted to.

Bush's presidency has nothing to do with the high gas prices. They are due to China's unprecedented (10% annual) growth rate, as well as a mild decrease in supply, and speculation on the futures market.

Right, the president has nothing to do with economics. His term's choices have made a direct impact on economical values, especially on oil and the USD. Don't be as dense to think that he actually has no power to do anything about it. He absolutely does. Oh yeah, I'm sure his little tromp through north Africa and South West Asia has nothing to do with oil prices.

Ok, the president's policy can have some effect on oil prices, I'll give you that, but the effect is really negligible compared to other economic forces. You take away Bush and put in Gore, and maybe crude oil would be selling at $65/barrel instead of $70. You take away China's growth, and then you'd have crude selling at barely more than what it was back in 2000 ($25-30).

But, I can't believe that you'd think that the president, who's job is to protect America , MAKE AMERICA MONEY, and create good relations with other nations isn't responsible for 1/3 of their job. Because, the whole making America money thing, is a big part of being president. It's pathetic that so many of them are so bad at it. (Obviously there are other things too, but these are the main functions)

That's really a philosophical point about the function of government. IMO, the function of a democratic government is to represent the interests of its citizens - to hell with whatever the rest of the world thinks.

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I love it, people blame Bush, when he has released reserve oil so that we still have some gas period. Wow, how iggnorant do you have to be. Dont let your hate confuse you. morons.

It doesn't really matter, they should be investing in alternative fueling methods instead. I don't think drilling Alaska (again), for example, is a good idea.

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<DIV class=quotetext>It doesn't really matter, they should be investing in alternative fueling methods instead. I don't think drilling Alaska (again), for example, is a good idea.</DIV></DIV>

The government is only capable of thinking 4-years ahead, if that. That's the reality of politics. You can't expect them to do anything as intelligent as what you suggest, regardless of which party is in control.

The only current viable alternative energy source is nuclear power, and we all know how popular that is!

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If it was even possible to put a nuclear reactor in a car, it would be dangerous. Still, nuclear power is cheaper per watt and produces less waste per watt than any other commercial method of electricity generation currently in use. All power stations would be nuclear if it wasnt for asshats being scared of it.

The government has little control over the price of a commodity. The only way for a government to control prices like that is through buying and selling of large amounts, or allowing natural deposits such as Alaska to be used. America is not a dictatorship, the government does not control oil prices, and is probably doing everything it can within its power to keep prices low.

I agree with Tracer, as oil prices go up, SUV-driving assholes go down, I can live with that.

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I thought for a while about drilling in Alaska, but then realized it
wasn't a good idea. There is more wild life in Alaska then probably the
whole US main 48 states. Alaska is all woods, snow (winter time), and
open area full of animals. Very little people live there. I think the
reason though that drilling there is a bad idea because they would
destroy animal habbitats for big drills. Not cool.

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So the government cant allow drilling there until people care more about gas prices than wildlife.

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The government is only capable of thinking 4-years ahead, if that. That's the reality of politics. You can't expect them to do anything as intelligent as what you suggest, regardless of which party is in control.
The only current viable alternative energy source is nuclear power, and we all know how popular that is!

Yes, I know. It's rather sad. You'd hope that the goal would be to better your country and make money, rather than an individual's "glory", so to speak. Since, any way you slice it they're still going to get heafty pockets.

However, I think that's in regard, mostly, to specific administrations and not the entire US government. Although, I don't know if you're considering EVERY aspect of our main government, intelligence included.

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• For all you bike people who think that EVERYONe can be a bike person. I know I can't. In the rural area I live in our roads are dirt and rocks and I drove 25 miles to college and 23 miles to work. It's really not feasible.
• Drilling Alaska is a dick thing to do, but it's necessary for now, when this all clears, we need to cap off the wells there again.
• people HAVE made all sorts of alternative energy sources, but the "Energy Conglomerates" or GAS COMPANIES buy the idea for a few million and then after they own the rights to it, they hide the Idea and no-one else can do it. the guys who invent it are very happy to get the millions and the gas companies know they will continue to make thier billions.

What I hate the most is that I am paying for other people's greed. The gas companies want to make billions so they jack up the price to say, $4 per gallon from $2.50. then after we get that for a while they lower it to $3.50 and most of the american public, being idiots, say, "Wow, what a bargain, it's lowered FIFTY CENTS!!"

Well, I remember when it was fifty cents for a gallon! It all comes down to a few people making decisions that give them more money and they have no regard for any other human beings.

[edit] I heard that Hawaii passed a law that limited gas prices to $2 a gallon can anyone verify this?

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If that's true Hawii has the right idea

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Thats a terrible idea... When the gas stations buy the gas for $3.00, and they are mandated by law to sell it for $2.00, they will all close down.

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mazemaster said:
Thats a terrible idea... When the gas stations buy the gas for $3.00, and they are mandated by law to sell it for $2.00, they will all close down.

Dude, the gas companies are paying like 5 cents a gallon. otherwise how could they sell it in Venezuela for 12 cents and still make a profit. they're just GOUGING the richer countries

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Dude, the gas companies are paying like 5 cents a gallon. otherwise
how could they sell it in Venezuela for 12 cents and still make a
profit. they're just GOUGING the richer countries

Correct

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Nickelplate said:

• For all you bike people who think that EVERYONe can be a bike person. I know I can't. In the rural area I live in our roads are dirt and rocks and I drove 25 miles to college and 23 miles to work. It's really not feasible.
• Drilling Alaska is a dick thing to do, but it's necessary for now, when this all clears, we need to cap off the wells there again.
• people HAVE made all sorts of alternative energy sources, but the "Energy Conglomerates" or GAS COMPANIES buy the idea for a few million and then after they own the rights to it, they hide the Idea and no-one else can do it. the guys who invent it are very happy to get the millions and the gas companies know they will continue to make thier billions.

What I hate the most is that I am paying for other people's greed. The gas companies want to make billions so they jack up the price to say, $4 per gallon from $2.50. then after we get that for a while they lower it to $3.50 and most of the american public, being idiots, say, "Wow, what a bargain, it's lowered FIFTY CENTS!!"

Well, I remember when it was fifty cents for a gallon! It all comes down to a few people making decisions that give them more money and they have no regard for any other human beings.

[edit] I heard that Hawaii passed a law that limited gas prices to $2 a gallon can anyone verify this?

1. That too is a lifestyle choice. I have had to pick places to live that are close to work/school so that I can ride my bike. You could do the same. There will always be people who truly need their own vehicle for everyday use, but that is about 1% of the population.

2. True

3. As a physical scientist, I'm here to tell you that that is pure BS, dude. There are no secret alternatives. Energy humans can tap come to earth either as solar radiation, or it is generated by the decay of radioisotopes. Biomass is infeasible, wind is infeasible, hydroelectric is infeasible. all we have is either solar, or nuclear, and I'm sorry to say that solar cells simply aren't good enough.

Finally, there is no price-fixing conspiracy. That's simply ridiculous. Several gasoline refineries were taken out by the storm. supply has gone down, demand remains strong, therefor the price goes up. simple.

Wilson,

I wasn't suggesting we could use nuclear power in cars. However you could use nuclear energy to generate hydrogen, which could power vehicles. And, if done properly, nuclear energy use generates essentially no dangerous wastes.
Also, Hawaii has NOT caped their gas prices. What they have done is to tie them to an index of mainland prices. It still sounds like a bad idea to me, but it isn't nearly as stupid as a cap would be.

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I dont know whats happening with Venezuela, I've heard them mentioned a few times. I'm assuming they have oil reserves and dont want the US to use them (which would explain the hubbub I guess). They can sell it in Venezuela for 12c/gal because the oil is in Venezuela, hence low transport costs, it costs less to drill because Venezuelans are cheap, and because (I'm assuming) the Venezuelan government refuses to export its oil, reducing effective demand. Most gas stations (STATIONS, not companies) are only slightly over break-even, at least in Australia, I doubt its any different in the US. If this Hawaii thing is true, its nothing short of idiotic. All gas stations will close, unless the government pays the difference, and if they do, theyll run out of money. The big companies like lower oil prices just as much as you do, the less it costs to make the product, the more profit they can make off it. If they could make more money selling it at current prices rather than the prices of 5 or 10 years ago, theyd have been selling it at current prices then.

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$2.85 a gallon here as of 3 hours ago.

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(Sorry for posting again so soon, but Tracer posted while I was typing ang Hugh posted after I saw)

Tracer, I didnt know you could produce hydrogen from fission, then again I'm not studying physics past 1st year. Tying to an index, like you said, is not as bad but still can be problematic.

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Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the oil business in Venezuela nationally controlled?

Wilson is entirely correct.

You could also think of it this way: if you are a farmer growing corn, well, you can pretty much have all the corn you want essentially for free, but that doesn't mean you are going to give it away at supermarkets!

Venezuela EXPORTS oil, therefore by definition they have a much larger supply than demand within their own country. If they have that much naturally it would only make sense to keep energy cheap for themselves because it gives their country a very nice competitive edge, which I might add, they need!

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3 dollars something a gallon, that's like about 60p a litre (roughly in my head). It's 90p a litre here :evilgrin:

there was a clip on the news last week that told of some wind farms in england that are using their spare capacity (low demand times of day when it's still windy) to make hydrogen. this is being done as part of some partnership project with a car manufacturer. the hydrogen doesn't get used as a fuel in a heat engine, but instead is used in some new type of hydrogen eating batteries.

it all looked very green and interesting.

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I think Hydrogen is definitely gonna go somewhere. We just need to start using it. If a company were to make a hydrogen engine that would be a perfect fit as a replacement for Ford small-block engines and Chevy small-blocks, It would make MILLIONS. Think of how many vehichles could be CONVERTED to hydrogen instead of having to buy some new car for a whitload. Poor hicks like the people in my area can NEVER afford new cars, but they COULD afford a $1000 hydrogen engine that will save them over $1000 a year in gas costs.

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My dad is looking for a new car right now, his old one isbasically
falling apart a little more each time he hits a speed bump. Right
now we're looking at a hybrid. That would be pretty damn nice :smile:

Nickelplate said:
We just need to start using it.

Tis a tad bit more complex than that. Current hydrogen generation technologies are either very inefficient or they require fossil fuels as feedstocks. Hydrogen is not an energy source, it is a medium of energy transmission. If you think of hydrogen powered vehicles as if they had batteries in them rather than hydrogen combustion engines or fuel cells, you will be far closer to the truth than the popular conception.

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Tracer Bullet said:
Tis a tad bit more complex than that. Current hydrogen generation technologies are either very inefficient or they require fossil fuels as feedstocks. Hydrogen is not an energy source, it is a medium of energy transmission. If you think of hydrogen powered vehicles as if they had batteries in them rather than hydrogen combustion engines or fuel cells, you will be far closer to the truth than the popular conception.

I kinda figured them for batteries of a sort. But can't we use nuclear engergy plants to supply power to the hydrogen extraction equipment?

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My dad is looking for a new car right now, his old one isbasically
falling apart a little more each time he hits a speed bump. Right
now we're looking at a hybrid. That would be pretty damn nice :smile:

my mom just got a prius 60mpg

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Wouldn't bio-diesel be an adequate transition right now? I know, most cars, only cost about $2000 to convert and you can get the "fuel" from any fast food place. They're more then happy to get rid of their used oil, since they don't have to pay to have it disposed of.

As far as I'm aware (as I've been told from friends in the field) it's more efficient and is leaps and bounds in regards to emissions over current conventions.

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Buddy IVO from Bulgaria told me that they were mixing used bio-oils with thier deisel to extend a tank. But the gov't didnt want them to do it because it made black sooty smoke. apparently they do ALL the illegal stuff in Bulgaria...

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Crono said:
Wouldn't bio-diesel be an adequate transition right now? I know, most cars, only cost about $2000 to convert and you can get the "fuel" from any fast food place. They're more then happy to get rid of their used oil, since they don't have to pay to have it disposed of.

As far as I'm aware (as I've been told from friends in the field) it's more efficient and is leaps and bounds in regards to emissions over current conventions.

True biodiesel requires no modification whatsoever of diesel vehicles. What you are talking about is a modification that allows your car to run on straight vegetable oil.

In both cases, the amount currently available is pitiful and the theoretical production volume required to meet all transportation needs is enormous: around 1/3 of all arable land in the USA would have to be devoted to production of fuels. That is only for transportation mind, not commercial power stations. You can bet that if more people had biodiesel vehicles that "free" vegetable oil would suddenly cost as much as gasoline. Hell, now that I think about it, vegetable oil is pretty damn expensive as it is! When was the last time any of you guys bought vegetable oil in the grocery store? That stuff is like $20/gallon! I'm sure the stuff for cars would be cheaper, but you get the idea.

As for emissions... diesel engines are much worse than gasoline because of the differences between the catalytic converters used on the two systems. Now, the reason why this is true is because diesel fuel typically contains a good deal of sulfur which poisons the more effective types of catalysts. I have no idea what the sulfur content of biodiesel is likely to be, so it may be that this problem could be corrected.

In my opinon biodiesel is only useful as a public relations gimmick to raise awareness of the issues. I think it would be much more intelligent to get a hybrid. Conservation is far more effective than most other options.

With respect to hydrogen: Yes, that is the only current way to build a "green" economy. Nuclear power with a hydrogen distribution system. To be fair wind and hydroelectric power can also contribute quite a bit, but nuclear is the only option substantial enough on its own. God I hope ITER gets past break-even!

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A bunch of college students from my school drove a bio-diesel bus cross
country to raise awareness last summer. Seemed really cool, but I
can foresee how it can only be used to rasie awareness and not a true
alternative for everyone.

Whatever happened to those little electric cars that hippies were driving? Those don't use ANY gas. Only they raise your electric bill quite a bit.

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The electricity has to come from somewhere... If you get it from the wall, it comes from power plants which mostly run off burning fossil fuels. Back to square 1.

I have heard good things about using algae for biodiesel - supposedly it generates orders of magnitude more fuel for the same area covered.

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Maze, I know that. BUt it's coal and not oil. A different industry.

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