to love, and be loved

to love, and be loved

Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Bewbies on Tue Aug 29th 2006 at 8:31pm
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Yea.. it seems very easy to offend gays and supporters of gay rights. I can see a great example in the gay marriage debates I witness. Case and point: "marriage should remain sacred, and should remain between a man and a woman." .. to many people, this reads "NO GAY MARRIAGE, GOD SAYS SO." .. this might be a bit of a shocker, but the very deliberate wording to avoid mentioning gays has good reason. it's not anti-gay. it's pro-man-woman. it's a man and woman's ceremony, not a man and a pig.. a man and his sister.. a man and his car. [/semantics].
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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by French Toast on Tue Aug 29th 2006 at 9:37pm
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I don't understand how someone can be against homosexuality... how does it affect you? Get over yourselves and let them enjoy eachother.
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Nickelplate on Wed Aug 30th 2006 at 12:45am
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French Toast said:
I don't understand how someone can be against homosexuality... how does it affect you? Get over yourselves and let them enjoy eachother.
Are you against Pedophilia? or Necrophilia? ... Beastiality? Seriously, I may not be the one getting married to another man, but it DOES affect me in manner or another. I am not really against homosexuality itself, for the moment, but I am against the marriage of parties who claim said sexuality.
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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by French Toast on Wed Aug 30th 2006 at 1:04am
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Please enlighten me as to how it affects you.
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by FatStrings on Wed Aug 30th 2006 at 2:10am
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personally i find homosexuality to be discusting i mean c'mon...
silly fagots dicks are for chicks
anyway, i don't see the appeal in it or the reasoning behind it and i find it disgusting, i'm not gonna go around tellin off all the queers but it just isn't natural
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by French Toast on Wed Aug 30th 2006 at 2:18am
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So... because you aren't homosexual means that it's disgusting and wrong and a terrible thing that people shouldn't partake in.

That's bulls**t, if you ask me.
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Crono on Wed Aug 30th 2006 at 2:25am
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personally i find homosexuality to be discusting i mean c'mon...
silly fagots dicks are for chicks
anyway, i don't see the appeal in it or the reasoning behind it and i find it disgusting, i'm not gonna go around tellin off all the queers but it just isn't natural
It's more natural than wearing clothing if you look at history and nature.

Saying something is "not natural" is bulls**t. Nothing we do, as humans, is "natural". It's the same as saying "it's wrong". It has no basis besides your personal feelings. In addition, those statements are referring to your opinion as fact which is another payload of bulls**t.

Nickel, seriously, harming another person or an animal is not the same thing has homosexuality. Why would a homosexual couple, who wholeheartedly love each other getting "married" (which would only happen legally) hold more weight than a heterosexual couple getting married who hate each other with a passion and are only doing it for money?

I don't understand blind "it bothers me so kill it" hatred. Dudes kissing and doing each other in the ass is gross beyond explanation ... but no one has the right to tell them they can't. Harming a child or animal, again, are not the same thing. Not even close.

Even if you look through history at times it was considered more noble to be homosexual than straight. In many cultures.
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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by FatStrings on Wed Aug 30th 2006 at 2:32am
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damnit it's my oppinion i'm not stating it as a fact or telling you to believe it
i'm saying it doesn't seem natural to me
and as far as i know we are the only species that participates in homosexual activities(correct me if i'm wrong on that)
not ignoring of course the fact that in relevance to nature sex is for reproduction and gay sex does not make babies

so saying it's not natural is actually literally correct
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Crono on Wed Aug 30th 2006 at 2:47am
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If you think animals don't exhibit homosexual behavior: you'd be mistaken.

Animals don't participate in sexual activities for pleasure and, generally, they're not monogamous. I know some species do become "mates for life", but it doesn't happen in the general populous.

To note, you didn't say "it doesn't seem natural".
I wasn't picking on you, I just hear that a lot and it's a bulls**t sentiment.
I didn't say don't have your opinion, it's your opinion, I can't change that, but you stated it as a fact ... and you did so again just now.

Animals do many things you wouldn't expect when they're bored ... and animals get bored often. Their lives consist of eating, sleeping, and procreation.
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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by FatStrings on Wed Aug 30th 2006 at 2:51am
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yes that's true and the only animals that happen to engage in sexual activities for fun are dolphins

i'm just clarifying that when i said it isn't natural i was just saying that it's not what nature intended and personally i don't understand it

the only time i'm exasperated with homosexuals is when they say they are gay from birth and that it wasn't a concious choice, personally i believe that is bull s**t
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by French Toast on Wed Aug 30th 2006 at 2:53am
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Not really, I read somewhere that they have a different chemical balance or something weird like that. It was like the religion gene, but a homosexual gene.

Bah, I can't remember.
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by FatStrings on Wed Aug 30th 2006 at 2:57am
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religion gene?
never heard of it
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Gorbachev on Wed Aug 30th 2006 at 2:57am
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I've seen plenty of same gendered animals trying to do the nasty, it exists.
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by FatStrings on Wed Aug 30th 2006 at 3:03am
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well growing up in farm land and being a vet's son i've seen plenty of bull's mount other bulls but they'll mount just about anything during the breading season
there's a reason those semen collector's work
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by French Toast on Wed Aug 30th 2006 at 3:13am
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religion gene?
never heard of it
Yeah, I'll see if I can find the article.

Basically they found a gene that causes people to believe in some sort of God, and it's absent in atheists.

Of course it was quickly dismissed by religious groups, but I'll see if I can dig it up.
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Nickelplate on Wed Aug 30th 2006 at 9:50pm
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Okay crono... If homosexuality is natural because animals do it, then Why can't I be a cannibal, pedophile, necrophile, polygamist, infant-killing rapist? Just because animals do it, doesn't make it okay for us to do, is the point.

And you can't say that "harming an animal or a child" is diferent from Homosexuality, having 2 dads harms a child PLENTY. Plus, how is "loving" an animal taken as "harming" it?

If you say that homosexuality is allowable because there are examples of it in nature, then I'll come back and ask you again when someone kills your kid, rapes the body, and steals your livestock so they can have sex with them. (infanticide, necrophilia, and beastiality, if you don't get my example) Also, when your daughter is old enough to get pregnant, THAT is when she sohuld start having unprotected sex, because that is what Animals do.

Also, animals will hump other animals as a sign of dominance, like in wolf packs.
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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by French Toast on Wed Aug 30th 2006 at 10:36pm
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Okay crono... If homosexuality is natural because animals do it, then Why can't I be a cannibal, pedophile, necrophile, polygamist, infant-killing rapist? Just because animals do it, doesn't make it okay for us to do, is the point.
And you can't say that "harming an animal or a child" is diferent from Homosexuality, having 2 dads harms a child PLENTY. Plus, how is "loving" an animal taken as "harming" it?
Not meant to be offensive but, you have got to be the most narrow-minded stereotypical southern american asshole I've ever had the displeasure to interact with.
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Nickelplate on Wed Aug 30th 2006 at 10:50pm
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Not meant to be offensive but, you have got to be the most narrow-minded stereotypical southern american asshole I've ever had the displeasure to interact with.
  • aren't you narrow-minded for not seeing my point of view and considering it?
  • You have not really answered anything in my post to any degree of satisfaction.
  • I'm not southern.

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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Andrei on Wed Aug 30th 2006 at 11:08pm
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Don't you people ever get tired of discussing the same 3 or 4 topics over and over again?

...

Fine. I'll chip in.

What to adults do willingly in their bedroom is their problem. However
waving your homosexuality like some sort of flag in battle is wrong. Do
what you want but PLEASE don't tell (by acting gay in public) everyone
you're gay like it were some great thing you should be congratulated
for.
For instance there's a whole bunch of girls in my class who act like
lesbians not because they really are but because being a lesbo is cool.
Bleh.
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Naklajat on Wed Aug 30th 2006 at 11:25pm
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Blame Tatu.

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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Nickelplate on Wed Aug 30th 2006 at 11:28pm
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Lesbians eşti sc?rbos. Tu nevoie un Rom?n fată cine este el asemănător al meu.
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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Andrei on Wed Aug 30th 2006 at 11:45pm
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Lesbians; eÅŸti sc?rbos.
ROFLMAOSKATES. :lol:

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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Naklajat on Wed Aug 30th 2006 at 11:51pm
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I feel left out :[

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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Andrei on Wed Aug 30th 2006 at 11:54pm
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<div class="quote"><div class="quotetitle">
I feel left out :[
? quote:</div><div class="quotetext">Lesbians eşti sc?rbos. Tu nevoie un Rom?n fată cine este el asemănător al meu.</div></div>

I put it in a translator. And this came out :

Lesbians you are icky. You need a romanian guy girl who is he similar to mine.

:lol:
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by fishy on Thu Aug 31st 2006 at 12:43am
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nickelplate has a romanian guy girl?

though it would explain a lot....
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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Cassius on Thu Aug 31st 2006 at 5:40am
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My theory is that it is an intuitive human belief that the orgasm, culmination of all any culture's conventions of dress, courtship, wedlock, etc., is sacred, and to force it or achieve it through some less ceremonious venue cheats that process.

This, a transculturally consistent social more, I feel may even be the product of human evolution. The mutual orgasm functions as an incentive for competition between males, effectively indicating the best fit, and for marriage, which engenders stability in a group and, more importantly, produces further generations of children.
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Dr Brasso on Thu Aug 31st 2006 at 6:30am
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man....i love it when he talks dirty... :dodgy:

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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Nickelplate on Fri Sep 1st 2006 at 1:46am
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Man, I'm using spanish grammar and romanian words. It's messed up with all this crap above all the letters...

Where is the Romanian translator BTW? i could use one to learn better.
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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by FatStrings on Fri Sep 1st 2006 at 3:04am
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english seems to work pretty well around here
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Gwil on Fri Sep 1st 2006 at 3:24am
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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Andrei on Fri Sep 1st 2006 at 6:54am
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Where is the Romanian translator BTW? i could use one to learn better.
Aw I used this crappy little thing: http://www.etranslator.ro/
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Orpheus on Fri Sep 1st 2006 at 10:30pm
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I read through this thread and there are only "ONLY" three posts that seem to me to be important. Its gotten to where we cannot even discuss taboo subjects anymore (or any less it seems)
As much as it may not have looked like it, I hesitated before I originally replied. NOT because I feared anything I would write, although in retrospect, Gwil's observational skills reminded me that I should have... At least to correct my paragraph structuring.

I'm serious. It seems that the mere mention of Homosexuality opens the doorway for anything one wants or feels like posting. It saddens me to read some of this stuff. I know that in a perfect world, we could talk about anything but as much as it pains me to remind everyone, this world, and this site specifically is not anywhere near perfect... As much as some of you are in denial about this point, its still true.

In the end, I think Gwil speaks for me with his very limited text posting, but it spoke a mountain of information to my ears.

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Orpheus said:
Is this what we are reduced to? The mere mention of homosexuality has become an demarcation for "side swiping?"
Bewbies said:
.. this might be a bit of a shocker, but the very deliberate wording to avoid mentioning gays has good reason. it's not anti-gay. it's pro-man-woman.
Gwil said:
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The best things in life, aren't things.
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Gwil on Sat Sep 2nd 2006 at 1:07am
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That's not it at all. There was blatant anti-homosexual views in the
text portrayed, I object on the grounds that i'm tired of people,
particularly Orph, mentioning "the gays" when they can.

As far as i'm concerned there was no need to bring in homosexuality or
views on homosexuals and their actions in their response, and I
mentioned this. Debate it all you like, i'm treading on a recurring
theme of anti-"gay" sentiment I see counterproductive to earlier
discussions resolved and "filed".
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Orpheus on Sat Sep 2nd 2006 at 1:39am
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I may attempt to not bring them up as often, but I am afraid that each and every post I ever have concerning gays will always be laced with "Anti" sentiments.

There is absolutely nothing IMO "Positive" about the idea of homosexuality.

If my replies have a ting of anti in them, you'll just have to get in line behind all the rest of the people who do not like it very much.

I can take your feelings into account while I reply, but I assure you that absolutely nothing you think I should or should not say will effect my feelings.

In the end, all I can do is avoid as many homosexual posts as possible because eventually I will speak up again, and eventually you will dislike it... again.

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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Gwil on Sat Sep 2nd 2006 at 1:58am
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Agree to disagree :smile:

See "bugs" thread :wink:
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by fishy on Sat Sep 2nd 2006 at 9:43am
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can we use the radiant editor forum for any future gay bashing? very few people ever go there(including myself), so it would be less harmful to the site.
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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Orpheus on Sat Sep 2nd 2006 at 12:59pm
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You know that list of 3 dozen names I mentioned Fishman? You're number 37. You just can't seem to quite make it..

/runs very fastly :outtahere:

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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Bewbies on Mon Oct 16th 2006 at 6:09am
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i found a picture of it! yeeaa
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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by FatStrings on Tue Oct 17th 2006 at 2:33am
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que es?
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Tue Oct 17th 2006 at 3:11am
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I'm guessing its what he drank that made him start this thread.
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Pvt.Scythe on Tue Oct 17th 2006 at 2:47pm
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Blame Tatu.
Both have boyfriends. :biggrin:
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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by habboi on Tue Oct 17th 2006 at 6:55pm
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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Gorbachev on Tue Oct 17th 2006 at 11:58pm
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There are many benefits to a lot of alcoholic drinks health-wise. You'd have to be pretty damn drunk pretty frequently to show any real negative effects. Like anything else, if you NEED it or can't ever say no then there's a problem. I mean, obviously if you're an asshole drunk then please just don't, and I dunno if some of you are just too young, but having a beer or glass of wine isn't going to make you loopy unless you're super tiny and have little tolerance. Perhaps it's just my thick Canadian beer-drinkin' hide talking, but my only recommendation is to stay away from any of those sugary coolers, you'll get sick, rot your teeth and look like a knob to boot.
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Bewbies on Wed Oct 18th 2006 at 11:15pm
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i thought i remembered explaining the neat mexican beer i found recently.. but i can't seem to find it.. i think i imagined it. but yea, cerveza caguama is damn good beer. turtle beer!

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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by FatStrings on Thu Oct 19th 2006 at 2:42am
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hmmm, will have to see if i can find that, dos equis is good mexican beer, and by mexican beer i mean german beer watered down in mexico
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Dark_Kilauea on Fri Oct 20th 2006 at 2:30am
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This thread lives on...

Will it ever die?

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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by FatStrings on Fri Oct 20th 2006 at 2:58am
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no, it just continuously devolves
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Dark_Kilauea on Fri Oct 20th 2006 at 6:46pm
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perhapes I will step on it when it de-evolves into goo.
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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by FatStrings on Sun Oct 22nd 2006 at 3:26am
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then your shoe will be gooey though