<div style="text-align: center;">Well, after some trouble in mah life i am finally back. and im not going to hesitate to bring s**tty nub maps that ive made to snarkpit! Ooh, and chances are noone remembers who i even am. rofl. -lates.

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Welcome back me!
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?GFX Nub?

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Sick liaisons raised this monumental mark
The sun sets forever over Blackwater park

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I remember you... wait... no, I just remember your avatar... Whoever you are, welcome back.

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Better to be in denial than to be human.

Bill Gates understands binary: his company is number one, and his customers are all zeros.

Welcome back! This ought to cheer Orph up. Omgz0r, new life to teh pit!!!1

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What the Snarkpitters listen to!

Welcome back dude..<br style="color: white;"><br style="color: white;">[OtZman I remember you so well that I can even remember your old anime avatar :wink: ]<br style="color: white;">

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.::Dark|Masta::. - One name. One legend.

Lol, I'm remembered, sweet! :wink:

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actually I remember it too, meh

OtZman said:
Welcome back! This ought to cheer Orph up. Omgz0r, new life to teh pit!!!1

LOL. jeez dude look at his number. At most he was gone less than I was on my vacation.

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The best things in life, aren't things.

I remember a post of tiny pink text.

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Why snark works.

I remember...That I used to remember,...That I remembered... a remembrance that remembered a remember...That I am remembering what I remember to remember the day I remembered what I used to remember ...<br style="color: white;">

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.::Dark|Masta::. - One name. One legend.

Nice job. You goons just scared another one away .

Orpheus said:
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<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting OtZman</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>Welcome back! This ought to cheer Orph up. Omgz0r, new life to teh pit!!!1

LOL. jeez dude look at his number. At most he was gone less than I was on my vacation. </div></div>
Oh comon now Orph, we all were brand new members once upon a time, even you :biggrin:
*imagines "Welcome to our newest member, Orpheus!"*

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That's a time paradox, right there!

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Also change the texture of the dock. Docks are rarely tile. -Facepunch
As I Lay Dying

only 8 people saw that before the 9th registered!

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Signature? What signature!?

Don't forget all the lurkers that didn't dare to register ;>

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Welcome back !

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:: Forceflow.be :: Nuclear Dawn developer

Thank you all for welcoming me, this is really nice of you...

<br style="color: gray;"><div style="text-align: right;"><span style="color: white;">--Uhhmm...Say what ???</span>
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.::Dark|Masta::. - One name. One legend.

We didn't really scare him away, did we?

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Why snark works.

Yes you did. :razz:

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Hell, is an half-filled auditorium

do you think if we talk quietly in nice tones we can coax him out?

hums at an almost unnaturally pleasant tone

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Hell, is an half-filled auditorium

Not really, hes away for some time, and once hes back, I bet hes gonna post another ZOMG IM BACK topic ...<br style="color: white;">

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.::Dark|Masta::. - One name. One legend.

ok, well everyone behave themselves next time and maybe he'll feel safe enough to stay, but no sudden movements k?

is it safe to come out now..?

i'm sorry, you see, im easily startled and.. well.. yeah. lets just leave it at that.

naw. i was out of town for a few days so yeah. im back so everyone can rest easy tonight.

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?GFX Nub?

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Sick liaisons raised this monumental mark
The sun sets forever over Blackwater park

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You scare me, I haven't slept for a second while you were back :razz: your pink text haunts me even in my dreams.

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Hell, is an half-filled auditorium

I remember these posts of tiny pink text.

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Why snark works.

I remember not reading them for the sake of my eyesight.

The purple text is easier on my eyes than the white. With this monitor at least.

A monitor from another dimension that must be. :biggrin:

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Why snark works.

Purple hurts my head :biggrin:
White on black isn't ideal, but sure is better than purple from where I'm sitting :smile:

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Hell, is an half-filled auditorium

I was using the black text on white scheme for a while. I still would if it didn't have little errors like text being displayed at white on white sometimes.

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Why snark works.

I like white text on black, imo it's easier for the eyes, but somehting like yellow on black, or light blue / green on black is way easier on the eyes as it has less of a contrast to eachother.

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Hell, is an half-filled auditorium

I noticed in the last Steam survey, that 90% of people are using 60 Hz for their monitors! If anyone feels like white spaces hurt the eyes a lot, try turning your monitor refresh rate up to 85 or 100 Hz. It's so much better.

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Why snark works.

60 Hz is all i've got reapman, o wells

reaper47 said:
I noticed in the last Steam survey, that 90% of people are using 60 Hz for their monitors! If anyone feels like white spaces hurt the eyes a lot, try turning your monitor refresh rate up to 85 or 100 Hz. It's so much better.

Could it be that they're using LCDs where 60Hz is standard (I think)?

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No point going above 60 on an LCD, the screen itself doesnt update that fast. CRTs are nasty old things.

I like white on black much more than black on white. Purple is not good. I think something like bluegreen might be nice, probably better than yellow or something.

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• My yr11 Economics teacher

I prefer white text on black but tan is also eye soothing.

Tis why I always use it in my critiques.

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The best things in life, aren't things.

Yea, LCDs are actually inferior too any good CRT. They're just flatter and more stylish. But I see people running 60Hz CRTs all the time. Just seeing the screen from the side is incredibly annoying. I didn't know my monitor could handle the 60+Hz but since I found out I find it unthinkable to work with anything less. It's so much more pleasant.

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Why snark works.

That tan is indeed pretty neat. Does your brain even register framerates above 60Hz?

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Hell, is an half-filled auditorium

I dunno what my brain does, but if my monitor is set to 60, my screen strobes ever so lightly.

I have to set it to 85 to even have a hope of reducing my head aches.

And yes, I do so like the tan color. :smile:

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The best things in life, aren't things.

JG, the 60hertz refresh rate for eyeballs is more of a guideline than a rule.

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Your eye can see the refresh rates easily if you just focus. I can walk into a computer lab and pretty much instantly see which monitors are running 60Hz and which are running higher. Same with frames for games, I could argue for hours, but anyone who says 24 or 30 frames is the most anyone can see doesn't know what they're talking about.

You don't really see the frames, you see the black, vertically moving beam flashing between the frames. That's why a white background is more unpleasant than a black one on 60Hz CRTs.

I think what you see on 60Hz monitors is mostly interference caused by the movement. We don't see 60 individual frames but instead 2 or 3 frames at once which can end in odd pictures that animate into a jittery, slower moving beam.

What's missing is motion blur. LCDs don't have the black beams of CRTs (which come from the Cathode Rays shooting at the Tube [C R T]), frames fade into each other more fluently, thus no strobes.

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Why snark works.

What I find is that if I have to look at a monitor that is set to 60, and its not my machine, for which I won't alter the settings, that if I shut the overhead light off it helps.

Seems that the incandescent light strobes at nearly the same speed, but at a different time and causes my screen to strobe out of sync and makes my head hurt.

Now, this might just be pure bulls**t, and more of a placebo effect but it helps me.

At home, my crt is set to 85.

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The best things in life, aren't things.

It could be the light strobing at 50Hz, thats the frequency of mains power usually. Its probably more to do with having darker surroundings though.

Yes, many people can notice a 60Hz flicker, but you can't perceive motion normally at that speed. Saying the human eye/brain can't see above 24-30 fps is just a generalisation of a complex system which doesnt really map perfectly to monitor refresh rates.

A bad LCD is inferior to a good CRT. There are inherent differences in both, but LCDs, I would expect, are better on your eyes. They definitely don't have the problem of colours fading with age that CRTs do, and of course, solve the 60Hz headache.

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• My yr11 Economics teacher

I'm looking at (quite literally) a 75Hz LCD monitor. I've never had a headache or eye-strain with it before (unless I was doing a gaming marathon, or with eyes that had been broken some other way).
I remember when I first got an LCD monitor, I got one that was bigger than my current one, but when I played games in it, the refresh rate was incredibly low, and it hurt my eyes. That one had a 24ms (or some such) refresh rate in its specs, this one has 12ms.
So what's the difference between Hz and the refresh rate in a monitor's specs?
1 second/75Hz = 0.013333333333333333 ~ 12ms?

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I can't stand 60hz, and can easily tell when a monitor is running below 70hz. I enjoy running my monitor at 72hz for some reason.

72Hz is right about the speed most people's eyes work at.

anyone who says 24 or 30 frames is the most anyone can see doesn't know what they're talking about.

24 is about where it your brain registers the image as fluid motion, at least in passive media like movies and TV. Higher frame rates still look better and smoother, but the more frames you add the more space you need to store the video. For games (especially when you have direct control of your view) you can notice a difference well above 72 fps and well above the refresh rate of your monitor, but that's got more to do with the game updating faster and making your mouse movements feel smoother.

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24 is about where it your brain registers the image as fluid motion, at least in passive media like movies and TV. Higher frame rates still look better and smoother, but the more frames you add the more space you need to store the video. For games (especially when you have direct control of your view) you can notice a difference well above 72 fps and well above the refresh rate of your monitor, but that's got more to do with the game updating faster and making your mouse movements feel smoother.

I've always wondered about this.

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Stadric said:
I'm looking at (quite literally) a 75Hz LCD monitor. I've never had a headache or eye-strain with it before (unless I was doing a gaming marathon, or with eyes that had been broken some other way).
I remember when I first got an LCD monitor, I got one that was bigger than my current one, but when I played games in it, the refresh rate was incredibly low, and it hurt my eyes. That one had a 24ms (or some such) refresh rate in its specs, this one has 12ms.
So what's the difference between Hz and the refresh rate in a monitor's specs?
1 second/75Hz = 0.013333333333333333 ~ 12ms?

Refresh rate applies to CRT monitors and is measured in Hz. Response time applies to LCD monitors and is measured in ms.

The refresh rate of a CRT monitor is how many times per second the electron beam passes over the screen to draw an image on it. So for a CRT at 60Hz, you have every pixel on the screen coming on, fading out gradually until its refreshed 1/60th of a second later. This is why you get the annoying flicker. Faster refresh rates cause it to all blur together and cause you fewer problems.

The response time of an LCD monitor is how long it takes a pixel, on average, to switch between fully black and fully white. Of course this is only a rough measurement, since response time does matter on the position and colour (red, green or blue) of the specific pixel measured, the colour gradient you move through, etc. So the two concepts cant be compared directly against each other. By your calculation there, a 12ms monitor would barely keep up with a 75Hz black/white strobing effect. This can be noticeable in games, if your view moves quickly across a sharp colour gradient. You can even see it here, with the white on black, if you scroll the page. The time taken for black pixels to switch to white and vice versa causes image ghosting.

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• My yr11 Economics teacher

I think a new thread regarding the "
Refresh Rate" Would be a better idea, I have learned new stuff from
reading this post, but I wouldn't have read that if I didn't open any
topic to read, if this was in a different thread, it would be very
useful ...

Just a suggestion ^^

Oh and btw, different Refresh Rates from 60Hz-72Hz has different sharpness or anything related ?? Mine was 60Hz for some reason, I boosted it up to 72Hz as I have seen its recommended by some guys here...What am I supposed to expect to be different ???

Thanks for the help :smile:

ZnZ

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