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    Tue Jan 27th 2004 at 9:30pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
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                        Is that first one the Terminator? it totaly reminds me of T2
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: I like drawing...
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    Tue Jan 27th 2004 at 9:50pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        Those pics are COOL! :eek: I like the first one the most!
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: I like drawing...
                        Posted by Sim on 
    Tue Jan 27th 2004 at 9:57pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        I think the face of the woman in the 2nd one is wither too long or too narrow.  I'm not sure if you intended it to look like that, but I'd suggest lowering the eyes a tad and generally squishing the face.
How long have you been drawing?
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: I like drawing...
                        Posted by Kapten Ljusdal on 
    Tue Jan 27th 2004 at 9:59pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
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                        Horrible.. I have a soft spot for that kind of pictures dude :sad:
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: I like drawing...
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    Tue Jan 27th 2004 at 10:04pm
                     
                    
                        
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                        how you got the result, from the origin, is beyond me bud.
but it most definately resembles bette midler.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: I like drawing...
                        Posted by Kapten Ljusdal on 
    Tue Jan 27th 2004 at 10:11pm
                     
                    
                        
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                        Reminds me of myself, with the flower...
oh, the memories...its all coming back now
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: I like drawing...
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    Tue Jan 27th 2004 at 10:49pm
                     
                    
                        
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                        I like the proportioning in the torso, that's most peoples problem area.
To help you out on the face and hands, here's the "rules" for proportioning them:
Eyes: mid way between the top of the head and bottom of the chin, before the neck starts, space the eye line into 5 equal partitions accross the face, two of them are the width for the eyes.
Nose: The nose line is half way in between the eye line and teh chin line, before the neck. The nose can be about as long as you want really, but usually  the nostrils are out the the inner corner of the eyes. (extend a line down from the inner corner and those are the outer edge of the noses nostrils).
Mouth: mouth line is less then 1/2 down from the remaining space, just a little less, not much. the corners of the mouth usually extend from to the center of the pupils. (draw a line from the center of the pupils down and that should be the end point of the mouth, while closed, smiling is different).
Ear: This might seem a bit large, but, it's true lol. The top of the ear starts at the top part of the eyebrow. The bottom of the ear is at the bottom of the nose (the part that is connected to the face, not the bridge). In other words, extend a line horizontially from the top of the eye brow and from the bottom of the nose, and that is the height of the ear. Obviously this is a little different if the brow is up, such as excitment or something.
Hair: You seem to have this part down, but, the hair line (where the hair meets the forehead, is about 1/3 rd down from the top of the head. so it's higher then 1/2 the distance between the eye line and the top of the head. Also, this isn't for Yak, but, remember hair SITS on top of the head, it ISN'T the head, unless the person is bald and it's cartoony so you want a shave effect.
Proportion:
Male: the head width should be the same as each shoulder width from the head, for a normally broad male. So, the entire width of the torso at the shoulders should be 3 of that figures head widths, this is of course approximate.
Female: The same as the male except it is about 1/2 to 3/4ths of the width, instead of one whole head width.
Hands: in general: the palm of the hand is about half the size of your face, not your head, but your face, so about from the chin to the nose, in a rather circular area is the size of a persons palm.
whew. work on that stuff and your proportioning problems should get better. also, try drawing models, like from magazines. . . I know that sounds wierd, but what it will do is allow you to work on normal proportioning. Drawing everyday people sometimes isn't that easy, because you'll meet a guy with dumbo ears or something like that, these rules are pretty loose, if you're looking at someone and they don't fit the rule then break the rule, they're mostly guidelines anyway.
I hope that helps :biggrin:
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: I like drawing...
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    Tue Jan 27th 2004 at 11:49pm
                     
                    
                        
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                        If there is any kind of personality that I truly despise, it's someone who is insecure, selfish, confused about their identity, petty, insincere, and manipulative.
Unfortunately, many people my age have plenty of these characteristics, and still more unfortunate, most of them happen to be women.
Thus, we have a generation of young lads, fully believing in the romantic notion that women spend their entire day fantasizing about the nature of true love and ponies, who get their balls/heart stomped when they find that it's not true.
WHAT - ME, BITTER?!
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: I like drawing...
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    Wed Jan 28th 2004 at 12:37am
                     
                    
                        
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                        Ah, the American suburban teenager. Well off, given plenty of opportunity, and morally inept. A classic example of what happens when people begin to reject the notion that there can be any moral standard that people can be held to.
Sex? Why not? The fact that you could destroy entire lives in two minutes because you can't put on a condom without screwing up means nothing. And if you do end up impregnating some poor girl, she can just stroll into the nearest Planned Parenthood and crush an innocent life before it sees the light of day. Hooray!
Drugs? Sounds good! I could destroy my career, academic or otherwise - but it would be worth it, because marijuana is cool! Especially when you drive around when stoned. After all an innocent life mean nothing - except when it's yours.
Suicide? I'm up for it! Because it's everybody's individual right to screw over the lives of everyone who loves them - but your parents can't take away the keys to your Explorer when you step out of line; that's injustice!
Money? Yes please! Even if I have to manipulate and steal from the people who care about me, I have to get the new basketball shoes, or whateverthef**k it is as of this hour.
Note that my remarks on suicide and abortion do not apply to the entirety of either issue, but if you want me to explain myself, I will.
But that's a rant for another day - back to the drawing.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: I like drawing...
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    Wed Jan 28th 2004 at 1:37am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        Abusing the law for the sake of petty and unjust desires is one of the most horrendous things I've ever encountered.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: I like drawing...
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    Wed Jan 28th 2004 at 2:02am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
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                        I agree, but I make a point of not letting issues like that upset me.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: I like drawing...
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    Wed Jan 28th 2004 at 7:40am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        Hmm... I didn't have time to read the other posts so I may be saying the same thing... But, the girls shoulders are much to broad.  You could enter that chick in an arm wrestling contest (make her arms narrower at the base!).  By sizing down her shoulders, you would need to make her upper body a little shorter and narrower, move her boobs down, angle her face more towards the artist (not the guy holding the flower), and take that mask off her face :smile:
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                
                    
                        Re: I like drawing...
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    Fri Jan 30th 2004 at 9:15pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
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                        I love that latest picture, and I would have it as my background right now if it wasn't for the cat's tail which scares me. It's too long and knobbly.
Otherwise, very good work! :kitty:
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: I like drawing...
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    Fri Jan 30th 2004 at 11:44pm
                     
                    
                        
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                        Me likey except for the guy's face... doesn't match the realism in the rest of the image. He looks like he's about 60.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: I like drawing...
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    Sat Jan 31st 2004 at 12:00am
                     
                    
                        
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                        Yup, fix the mouth and eyebrows- body looks perfect though!
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: I like drawing...
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                        Yak:
Look at the proportioning stuff I posted on the previous page, it'll solve all your problems. It seems you just wanna scrunch up the face and hands. The left hand there is good, but if you notice it's only because it's on the gun and you proportioned it to the gun, the right hand is another story. The stuff I posted should help you, if it doesn't I'll draw up what the 'scematics' of the face look like if you like.
But as I said before, your torso and legs are awesome, the face is a bit easier to proportion then the body, so you're 90% there. However hands are still the most difficult thing to draw, unless you force your self to draw them over and over and over again.
The shadowing isn't that bad. granted the light probably isn't that hard, but it's good overall. You should see some of the crap I've seen oogled by art teachers, bleh.
You have a very good technique there yak, you just need to work on a little proportioning.
I hope that helps in some way.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: I like drawing...
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    Sat Jan 31st 2004 at 11:03pm
                     
                    
                        
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                        The gun barrel looks uber long to me, that looks more like some mad ass old tripod-fixed machine gun in terms of length as opposed to whatever rifle it is meant to be (not knocking your representation of the gun, my knowledge on rifles just isn't that great!).
Otherwise, the comments of the others are certainly true but its an excellent drawing. Do you do mostly character art, or do you also do other stuff?
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: I like drawing...
                        Posted by Yak_Fighter on 
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                        Yeah, the gun is too big. It's an M-16, and they have long barrels, but not that long :biggrin: but at least it's a very accurate portrayal of the gun minus the proportion against the guy.
I mostly don't do character art, which is why they look so poor. I took about six years of after-school art training working mostly with pastels and acryllics doing still-life and landscapes. Most of all that sucks ass, but of course my parents have it all framed and hung around the house...I've just recently got back into doing serious art after a four year hiatus, so it's not very good, but I still managed to dominate my elementary drawing class last semester. Course that's mainly because most of my fellow students shouldn't have been allowed within a foot of pencil and paper.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: I like drawing...
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    Tue Feb 3rd 2004 at 4:39am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        I liked your drawings yak.  you seem to struggle with the proportion problems that plague most people, including me.  A little more attention to faces, and taking some of the good advice already posted here, and your anatomy will jump to new levels quickly.  Your shading skills seem very solid...which is what I am most interested in personally.  Good lineart is very impressive..something I have never achieved, but a good understanding of light, tone, and values, is what gets me off... keep it up.
Some of you may remember previous pieces I have posted here.  Wish I could say I have been drawing alot, lately, but my time is more focused on 3d modeling and texturing nowdays.  Maybe I will have something to post soon.  Great forum btw.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: I like drawing...
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    Thu Feb 5th 2004 at 5:24pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        no affence or nuthin but the girl look ...... well not like a girl
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: I like drawing...
                        Posted by Pegs on 
    Thu Feb 5th 2004 at 9:12pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        i meen the face THE FACE. it lloks sort of like a bloke. anywho i would show you my pics but i cant be boferd to scan them then upload them + i am not the one with the scanner in the family (or the web space) :sad:
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: I like drawing...
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    Fri Feb 6th 2004 at 1:43pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        I think the cat's tail looks fine - they don't always have them upright, you know.