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                        Posted by Raid3n on 
    Tue Sep 9th 2003 at 12:26am
                     
                    
                        
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                        My buddy has 3.5 as do i, and when he places a spawn point, a model shows up instead of the 2d image. This is not so for me, can anyone help me out? Is this a user set property? If so, how do i set it?
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: hammer 3.5 spawn model not showing up
                        Posted by Tracer Bullet on 
    Tue Sep 9th 2003 at 1:42am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
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                        Yah, I'm haveing this issue too.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: hammer 3.5 spawn model not showing up
                        Posted by Campaignjunkie on 
    Tue Sep 9th 2003 at 2:07am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
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                        1) Make sure you're using the correct 3.5 FGD of whatever modification you're mapping for.
2) Unpack all models (.mdls) you want viewable in-editor from the .pak archive, using PakExplorer, PakScape, Half-Life Model Viewer, or whatever Pak tool you want to use. If your mod doesn't have a .pak file and all the models are already in the \\models\\ folder for your MOD, skip to Step 3.
3) Go to Tools >> Options >> Game Configurations. Configure the correct file paths for the game configuration for you to use. For example:
Mod Directory: (any modification)
C:\\Sierra\\Half-Life\\ns
Game Directory: (usually valve... I think.)
C:\\Sierra\\Half-Life\\valve
4) Enjoy! Remember that if you load another map that has models after/with another map with models, the skins/textures of the models in the other map will be corrupted. Just restart VHE if you want correct skins for the models. Also remember that changing the in-editor sequence won't change the actual animation in-game! Also remember to distribute the models with your map!
EDIT: some changes made to make it more clear
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: hammer 3.5 spawn model not showing up
                        Posted by Orpheus on 
    Tue Sep 9th 2003 at 2:28am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        ok, step 2 is throwing me off.. where do we put the models? in the valve models folder, or the half-life one?
and if we place a player start, it will look like one of the player models?
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: hammer 3.5 spawn model not showing up
                        Posted by Raid3n on 
    Tue Sep 9th 2003 at 2:33am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        ok....do i need all the models i want veiwed in the valve/models directory or the mod directory?
Edit: nm this was asked while i was idle, sorry
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: hammer 3.5 spawn model not showing up
                        Posted by Cash Car Star on 
    Tue Sep 9th 2003 at 3:19am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
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                        It makes sense that it would look in the \\models directory of both mod directories listed in step 3 (\\valve and \\ns in this case)
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: hammer 3.5 spawn model not showing up
                        Posted by Gorbachev on 
    Tue Sep 9th 2003 at 4:26am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
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                        Well Raid3n happens to be at my place, but I'll still put this up...just make sure you're either using the DoD (or respective mod...if updated enough) FGD that is either included in the Mod directory, or an updated one from their official forums. Should help out.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: hammer 3.5 spawn model not showing up
                        Posted by Tracer Bullet on 
    Tue Sep 9th 2003 at 6:23am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
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                        Hmm, I must not have the new FGD
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: hammer 3.5 spawn model not showing up
                        Posted by DocRock on 
    Tue Sep 9th 2003 at 12:38pm
                     
                    
                        
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                        Use a pak explorer and copy/paste all models in the pak.0 into your valve/models folder.
Do that, and even the weapon models will be viewable in the camera mode of Hammer.  Handy for placement.
This works for deathmatch.  No new .fgd needed.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: hammer 3.5 spawn model not showing up
                        Posted by Orpheus on 
    Tue Sep 9th 2003 at 3:37pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        does jig
mine works now :smile:
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: hammer 3.5 spawn model not showing up
                        Posted by Tracer Bullet on 
    Tue Sep 9th 2003 at 3:46pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
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                        I have the whole damn pak file expanded on my HD and it doesn't work...
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: hammer 3.5 spawn model not showing up
                        Posted by Gorbachev on 
    Wed Sep 10th 2003 at 12:10am
                     
                    
                        
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                        But it's a clip artist's best friend...hopefully it'll support the multiple bodies some day too.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: hammer 3.5 spawn model not showing up
                        Posted by fishy on 
    Thu Sep 11th 2003 at 2:52pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        if your mapping for tfc, you dont get to see the model preview in 3.5    :sad:
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: hammer 3.5 spawn model not showing up
                        Posted by Gorbachev on 
    Thu Sep 11th 2003 at 10:57pm
                     
                    
                        
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                        I remember seeing the code that you had to put in the mod .fgd so that viewing models in hammer was possible. Try looking around Valve ERC for it, or for an updated TFC .fgd whichever is necessary.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: hammer 3.5 spawn model not showing up
                        Posted by ReNo on 
    Fri Sep 12th 2003 at 12:38am
                     
                    
                        
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                        As Gorb said, the code was given on how to make an entity display as a model. So its possible to make your own fgd that shows any model for any entity...nice if you can be bothered coding it. Therefore its quite likely that even if valve haven't made a TFC fgd to show models, somebody else has, and it might be worth searching for one popular mapping forums / google.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: hammer 3.5 spawn model not showing up
                        Posted by Raid3n on 
    Fri Sep 12th 2003 at 3:22pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        do you know if CS supports the model in 3d view?
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: hammer 3.5 spawn model not showing up
                        Posted by KoRnFlakes on 
    Fri Sep 12th 2003 at 3:33pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
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                        only the hl & dod fgd's were updated afaik.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: hammer 3.5 spawn model not showing up
                        Posted by ReNo on 
    Fri Sep 12th 2003 at 5:26pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        Technically ANY mod can support models in the 3D view, all it needs is some tweaking to its FGD. I haven't a clue if it has been updated, as I don't map for CS, but check out popular CS forums or whatnot and ask there, people might have a better idea.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: hammer 3.5 spawn model not showing up
                        Posted by Campaignjunkie on 
    Fri Sep 12th 2003 at 11:25pm
                     
                    
                        
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                        You pretty much just have to add some sort of "studio()" property to the entities in the FGD I think, and specify an optional model along with sequence names. Look on Collective for some actual documentation.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: hammer 3.5 spawn model not showing up
                        Posted by Sinner_D on 
    Sun Sep 21st 2003 at 5:32am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
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                        if your mapping for tfc, you dont get to see the model preview in 3.5
have you tried placing the models in the tfc/models dir instead of the valve/models folder? just a hunch