doors and ladders

I've been trying to learn how to make doors and ladders and i've been looking at some tutorials. The problem is i don't understand them so can someone please give me a simpler version. thanks.

Make a brush that you want your ladder to be. Cover it in a ladder texture. Press the 'to entity' button and make it a func_wall. Change the rendermode to solid and the fx amount to 255 this will make the blue segments transparent.

Now create another identical brush in front of the ladder and cover it with the aaatrigger texture. Press the 'to entity' button and select func_ladder. This is the actual bit you climb, the other bit is only for show. Make this func_ladder entity 2-4 units thick (decrease the grid size in Hammer by pressing [).

Hope it helps.

(edited for a bit more clarity and whatnot- Lep.)

paint skillz. (solid = func_wall, entity = func_ladder) You don't see
the purple one in-game. This is a rope, but the technique is the same.

edit:nm :smile:

I'm wondering, why do you have to a the aaatrigger texture to triggers? I found that they work fine with any texture.

the texture is only a reference for the mapper, so he can more easily spot things that arent simply world brushes.

(heh heh, I got to use a new smiley)

I just do it out of habit really.

what kind of door do you want to make? sliding or swinging?

ok thx, I thought I was what it was for.

Actually, make certain triggers out of a different texture instead of aaa like the original game, and it makes it easier to group them on screen

Biological Component said:
what kind of door do you want to make? sliding or swinging?

i'd like to start with swing door.

Thats made out of a func_door_rotating
Place a brush covered in the origin texture where the doors hinges are (The centre of the origin brush becomes the pivot/hinge), and select that and the door and make it an entity (ctrl+T) and for the most part, that should work correctly. You'll have to fool around with the properties to get different effects though

By the way, i can't seem to make the right ladder. It looks exactly like the solid i made except for the texture. It is not connected to the wall.

Um... right

Make sure that the func_wall entity that is the visual ladder has a render mode of 'Solid' and FX amount of (EDIT: 255) to make the blue parts invisible

what i meant is that i don't have the ladder i want, i got the ladder which have 3 sides instead of one

what i meant is that i don't have the ladder i want, i got the ladder which have 3 sides instead of one

That doesn't make any sense.

erm...

let's put it this way...the ladder does not "sink" into the wall.

Maybe you should take a screenshot as your descriptions are hazy at best. :smile:

Are you trying to have the ladder embedded in the wall?

You'll have to cut a little alcove for it using the clip tool (Press ctrl+X to switch clip tool modes so both sides of the cut are white highlighted)
One you make the alcove, just texture the visible side with a ladder texture and put the func_Ladder up against it

Do you mean something like this ? This way the ladder will be climbable even when you approach it from the side.

No, they want it embedded into the wall it is on. so

Wall|....Ladder...|wall
......|Func ladder|

Ho ho! Eat my crappy text images and implement multiple spacing! :biggrin:

erm...

let's put it this way...the ladder does not "sink" into the wall.

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Alien_Sniper said:
Maybe you should take a screenshot as your descriptions are hazy at best. :smile:

how do i take a screenshot?

In-game, press F5, a screenshot will be created in your Half-Life folder.

he means there is a recess into the wall in which the ladder sits. So
think of the letter C bing the wall, and inside the C is the
ladder. So if you try to approach it by the side you only hit walls.

This thread recieves the award for:
"Most Vague and Incomprehensible
Descriptions of Simple Concepts"

I don't see you putting up a picture q:
I'm to lazy to do one

This is what I got. The problem is it doesn't look realistic and I always climb the ladder before reaching it:

I want something like this:

the ladder should be flat against the wall (Like, 1 unit thick), with a slightly thicker (2 units against the wall) func ladder. You've got a big square physical ladder with no wall behind it.

so what should i do?

are you f'ing sreious? We told you how to do this. Go read tutorials or
read what we said already over again. this thread is ridiculous

Perhaps the beginner tutorials at twhl are more suited for you.

Go here, and read each of the In The Beginning tutorials and follow along with them.

Also, Egir.dk has various beginner tutorials (Don't foget to join the forum)

i think i know whats happening here.

Irenicis' pic shows a big square (form above) ladder, made with the default snap on grid size. the func ladder in front of it will be made with the same size of brush, making him climb the invisible ladder, 64 units away from the visible one. or "before he gets to it".

so his question should have been (if i'm right), how do you change the grid size in hammer?

the [ key makes the grid smaller, for making thin things, like ladders.

the ] key makes it bigger, which is better for big main walls etc.

and in the bottom right side of hammer, it tells you how many units the grid size is at.

Good eye, but I still think he needs those beginner tutorials just so he learns positioning and such with the editor.

fishy, your solution solved my problems for doors and ladders.

fizscy46, I agree that i need those beginner tutorials.

Thanks everyone.

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/exhales

I also salute you pic of Jimmy. It goes well with my pic of David.

You should know that you are solely responsible for causing me to drive to Wal-Mart at 2am in the morning, just to get some Chips Ahoy.

You should know that you are solely responsible for causing me
to drive to Wal-Mart at 2am in the morning, just to get some Chips
Ahoy.

lol !

Well, I'm glad this problem is finally solved ... 3 pages about doors & ladders ... :biggrin:

and, if i may say so myself, was solved by a fine piece of deductive reasoning.

:biggrin:

and, if i may say so myself, was solved by a fine piece of deductive reasoning.

:biggrin:

Bastard. I solved it reading the second page only to find you'd beat me to it. :smile:

Like he said, I solved it. And its all one page for me

fore the lader i use the crates.But how am can i create a dor(any tipe).

Door:

http://www.superjer.com/learn/func_door_rotating.php

Ladder:

http://www.superjer.com/learn/func_ladder.php