Space, the final frontier

http://www.guardian.co.uk/space/article/0,14493,1345460,00.html

Apparently, the US government has been drawing up plans to establish "Space superiority".

BUT The article says "Internal USAF Documents", and does not elaborate more on the source. Still, this is really disturbing if it's true. I can only imagine the consequences if the US government's military policies are carried into space.

pfft, we don't have enough money to gain space superiority. No one does, except maybe Time Warner. Apparently we're even having trouble gaining middle east superiority.

I think what'll happen is companies will get there at the same time as governments. Since they've completed several "commercialized" space flights (starting with ONE a couple months ago).

See, the thing is, we know how to launch colonizing ships, they're just expensive. More money then most countries have. Same thing goes with making gravity on a ship: we can do it, but it's too expensive.

Defense arrays are another topic though.

I read this and thought... 31337. Wont happen, but it sounds cool.

Meh, it'll happen one day.

Yeah, and when it does, I'm getting a small freighter and fitting it out with light laser cannons. I'll trade ore around the system until I've got the cash for a fighter-class, then I'll take a hyperspace gate out to the nebula and hunt criminals for bounty, thats where the real money is :wink:

Gasp! You've just outlined my life's dreams!

Fact it, anywhere someone hasnt touched yet, I own. I own jupiter, and mars. And the belt of comets and stuff. I own them. So NER nasa!

Mephs lays claim to everything outside the earth.

The US conquering space? They couldn't even conquer Iraq properly .

Shush, the gaseous planerts have LOTS of oil :wink:

Here's hoping THEY get 'liberated' from the zero tolerance regime of the anti-breathing terrorists. And the world is happy :biggrin: .

Andrei said:
The US conquering space? They couldn't even conquer Iraq properly .

glares

funny, i'll admit we failed at something, but i was not aware we were even attempting "conquer"

Mephs said:
Shush, the gaseous planerts have LOTS of oil :wink:

Here's hoping THEY get 'liberated' from the zero tolerance regime of the anti-breathing terrorists. And the world is happy :biggrin: .

L O L !

Its like Space Cowbows. 'Cept the nuclear satalite will be American, not Russian.

This is going to spell Star Wars. But it wont be a long long time ago, in a far far away galaxy. Alright, Im going to design my very own X-Wing and frag USAF's ass :biggrin:

Orpheus said:

Andrei said:
The US conquering space? They couldn't even conquer Iraq properly .

glares

funny, i'll admit we failed at something, but i was not aware we were even attempting "conquer"

Oh, sorry, i forgot the quotes around "conquer" :smile: .

rrm, i should prepare my snarks for a space war, baaaad... il have to
inform the supreme commander about this, how can we take voer the world
now if we have to go space first......

Umm... Yeah, I've no idea what you are all babbling about. What's being talked about is neither prohibitively expensive, or particularly scary. What's so different about satellite based weapons vs. the GPS system or Spy satellites? The US already has hundreds of defense related satellites in Orbit, and it won't be that expensive or difficult to add a few more. Besides that, the idea of non-weaponized space is just silly. That's like an agreement saying that fighters and bombers are illegal, but recon flights are OK Besides, you could argue strongly that ICBMs are space-weapons anyway so these things are nothing new. It's a very natural evolution of America's "air power" emphasis.

I've heard that a private company has managed to build an aircraft that carried a single man into orbit and back. This is a step in the right direction.

I like how everyone is posting s**t I already said :rolleyes:

But, they've done those flights a few times. A step in the direction of interstellar traveling. If accidents are terrible with planes hitting water, what would be on the news if one of these ships decompressed.
The one thing that would be cool would be travel times. Since you'd be going up into the outer atmosphere of Earth and back down everything would be very quick. I think it would take somewhere around 90 minutes of actual travel time to circle the globe. (I used that number based on satellite times)

That would be completely bad ass.

Andrei said:
I've heard that a private company has managed to build an aircraft that carried a single man into orbit and back. This is a step in the right direction.

Spaceship One reached neither orbital height nor velocity. It cleared the earth's atmosphere at a little over 100 km and came back down. That is a far cry from an orbital venture for two reasons. First of all, significant heat shielding is unnecessary for such a gentle "reentry", and second, it didn't have to boost nearly as much fuel as it would have had the objective been orbital velocities (16-18,000 mph). It is a step in the right direction, but not such a large one as you might think.

well, i din't think the stats were just like that, but anyway, wasn't that virgin blue?

Crono said:
I like how everyone is posting s**t I already said :rolleyes:

several people left me feeling like a moron today, if it will make you feel better you may do so as well.. in this way you can participate in posting something someone else already had, and you will not notice so much when people post things you already did..

go ahead, beat me up, it will make you feel better :biggrin:

Nah, you'd probably throw a sack of s**t at me or something. I know you've got them stockpiled.

Crono said:
Nah, you'd probably throw a sack of s**t at me or something. I know you've got them stockpiled.

wuv woo too :smile:

xxxoooxxx

i didnt read the article, but I sure hope that the US puts nukes in space just so you people have even more things to incessantly bitch about. When the US saves the world by blowing up an asteroid or by warding off aliens you'll have to deep throat your words.

it's all in here; this is basically a toned-down version of the "Wolfowitz Doctrine", ie the Neo-Conservative manifesto for American world domination :rolleyes:

http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

Can we all say, "UAC"? :biggrin:

There was a farmer had a dog and Jingo was his name-o.

LOL, you know something will screw up and they'll blow up the moon

Yak_Fighter said:
i didnt read the article, but I sure hope that the US puts nukes in space just so you people have even more things to incessantly bitch about. When the US saves the world by blowing up an asteroid or by warding off aliens you'll have to deep throat your words.

Yes.

The US will save the world from an asteroid. Which they probably dislodged from the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter in one of their "tests". And then they'll save us from the aliens, who they sold the warfare technology to in the first place. And then they'll claim supremacy over the aliens, for no reason whatsoever.

Yes. My words are being deepthroated as I type. :rolleyes:

Yes.

fraggard said:
Yes.

The US will save the world from an asteroid. Which they probably dislodged from the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter in one of their "tests". And then they'll save us from the aliens, who they sold the warfare technology to in the first place. And then they'll claim supremacy over the aliens, for no reason whatsoever.

Yes. My words are being deepthroated as I type. :rolleyes:

Yes.

Yes.

oh for the days when we could defend our honor about important things like "your maps s**t" :rolleyes:

speaking of deep throat, when i had my surgery, i had a barium swallow.. not a pleasant experience i assure you, but watching the live xray machine map my esophagus was neat..

Yeah, I recently got a nice injection of Tc-99 which wasn't pleasant, but then I got to stick my hands and feet in this radiation detector and watch my bones get mapped out in the gamma rays being emitted from my body. Pretty neat really. Medical imaging technology is some cool s**t. (p.s. much of it came from America)

Tracer Bullet said:
Yeah, I recently got a nice injection of Tc-99 which wasn't pleasant, but then I got to stick my hands and feet in this radiation detector and watch my bones get mapped out in the gamma rays being emitted from my body. Pretty neat really. Medical imaging technology is some cool s**t. (p.s. much of it came from America)

yeah, they dig it right out of the sand in the new mexico desert.. stupid scientist wasting perfectly good H-Bombs :rolleyes:

I meant medical imaging technology not the Tc-99 itself :smile:

fraggard said:

Yak_Fighter said:
i didnt read the article, but I sure hope that the US puts nukes in space just so you people have even more things to incessantly bitch about. When the US saves the world by blowing up an asteroid or by warding off aliens you'll have to deep throat your words.

Yes.

The US will save the world from an asteroid. Which they probably dislodged from the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter in one of their "tests". And then they'll save us from the aliens, who they sold the warfare technology to in the first place. And then they'll claim supremacy over the aliens, for no reason whatsoever.

Yes. My words are being deepthroated as I type. :rolleyes:

Yes.

That just went right over your head didn't it?

Orpheus said:
speaking of deep throat, when i had my surgery, i had a barium swallow.. not a pleasant experience i assure you, but watching the live xray machine map my esophagus was neat..

I had one of those back in the day, it wasn't so bad... unless you're referring to when they force the Alka Seltzer down your throat and don't let ya burp.

Yak_Fighter said:
That just went right over your head didn't it?

American sarcasm is often mistaken for American Pride or some people just translate it into, "American's are stupid".

... HA! "Deep Throat"

Crono said:
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<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting Yak_Fighter</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>
That just went right over your head didn't it?</DIV></DIV>

American sarcasm is often mistaken for American Pride or some people just translate it into, "American's are stupid".

... HA! "Deep Throat"

eons ago i realized our ideals about humor and sarcasm were at best, shades of compatibility when we try them upon our other country mates.. tis why i first began using lightblue as an identifier.. i am not positive i coined the use of lightblue, but i think i was the first to use it for humor..

anyways, it would help if we remembered to use it, it is in the color choices as "sarcasm" for a reason.

yaks sarcasm seems to be as vague as my humor in jokes..

sadly, some jokes and sarcasm are ruined with the lightblue text, cause its like explaining it, and jokes are ruined once you have to explain it to someone.

/ 2 cents

Orpheus said:
eons ago i realized our ideals about humor and sarcasm were at best, shades of compatibility when we try them upon our other country mates.. tis why i first began using lightblue as an identifier.. i am not positive i coined the use of lightblue, but i think i was the first to use it for humor..

anyways, it would help if we remembered to use it, it is in the color choices as "sarcasm" for a reason.

yaks sarcasm seems to be as vague as my humor in jokes..

sadly, some jokes and sarcasm are ruined with the lightblue text, cause its like explaining it, and jokes are ruined once you have to explain it to someone.

/ 2 cents

Usually it should be pretty obvious that I'm being sarcastic, as I take it to extreme levels. How anyone can take serious my claim that space-based nuclear weapons are good because they will serve as a deterrent to alien invaders is beyond me. It's just like the time Myrk thought I was trying to stir up s**t against him when I called him a 'stupid head'. I don't know how that can be viewed as an honest insult. Oh well

That most definitely went right over my head... It didnt seem like sarcasm coming from an american I will stop before I look even more foolish, if that's possible.