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                        Posted by Cassius on 
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                        We texture artists around here have our little tutorials and occaisional pimping of our work, but I think it would be nice if we got our own forum. With 'Help Wanted' gone, there really isn't a place for texture requests anymore, and questions about texture software, like Korn's recent thread.
With HL2 coming up, the demand for public textures is going to be much less with orange-mapping as the accepted style, and a texture artist who is willing to make you private, hi-res textures is going to become increasingly hard to find.
We could help the fledgling artists of the forum improve (images of Orpheus-esque texture pack reviews) and arrogant bastards like me could show off our work, while having a forum that mappers can ask for textures in without being called newbs.
So who's with me?
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Idea
                        Posted by Orpheus on 
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                        from what i have been able to gather, the future of HL is in its textures too.. more so than HL did..
you got my vote.. and if the slots are all full, i can stand down to make room for someone with more to contribute.. if its necessary..
you have my vote cass.. if its a choice between us..
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Idea
                        Posted by KoRnFlakes on 
    Sun Aug 31st 2003 at 4:12pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
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                        I dont think there are enough artists here to compensate for an entire forum tbh.
                                    
             
        
            
            
            
                
    
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                        Oh yes there are. And if it doesn't work out, Lep can just delete it or something... Right? :razz:
                                    
             
        
            
            
            
                
    
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                        Sure there's enough. I mean, there used to be a Jumpbot forum and how many people used that?
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Idea
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                        If I see more art threads in here, then ok :P
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Idea
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                        You have my vote, between people requesting textures, and/or wanting to learn how to texture.  Hell, the Snarkpit would turn into a mapping/texturing website.  But then again, you cant make a map without textures now can you?
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Idea
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                        *bump
Any way we can sticky this? I think it'd be a pretty important decision.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Idea
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                        w00t! now its a sticky thread!! Snarkpit would be an excellent site for a 2d art forum..I mean, so many mappers come here and they usually say the same thing about their maps "I know the textures suck.."
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Idea
                        Posted by KoRnFlakes on 
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                        meh, well I spus if we had a jumbot forum before, We can support a 2Dart forum.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Idea
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                        Hold on..."I would like" and "what if..."  have been deleted!  Noooooo!
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Idea
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                        IMO, waste of space is in the eye of the beholder..
if we have 5 megs worth of texture questions scattered all over the general topic, or localized within a texture artist one, its still 5 megs..
i say, if cass is willing to commit himself to it whole heartedly.. he should have it..
it is a given, HL2 will rely on textures far more than HL1 did, why not have an area dedicated to it.
plus, even tho few used the jumbot forum, it still had users, should they have been punished for being few in numbers..??
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                        Re: Idea
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                        since were on the subject of 2Dart, any idea of a plug-in or somesuch for photoshop to view .pct files?
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Idea
                        Posted by Orpheus on 
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                        i am betting, when grimlock gets here he will have a 1/2 page document on the pro's/con's of this idea.. wanna lay odds the "PRO" side will be a might bigger ..
 
/me uses brassmans dodgy smile cause he can't figure out how.. :dodgy:
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Idea
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                        grrr....me waves stick at bud Orpheus......grrrr
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                        Re: Idea
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                        "since were on the subject of 2Dart, any idea of a plug-in or somesuch for photoshop to view .pct files?"
Never heard of a PCT, what is it?
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Idea
                        Posted by KoRnFlakes on 
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                        afaik "PICT" its some sort of image or batch of images I guess. Its what most of the files in Will Rocks texture folder are called & im interested in seeing what the actuall file type is myself.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Idea
                        Posted by Dr Brasso on 
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                        actually, the "pct" extension is , i believe. for mac files...and as such are supported in PS7 and PSP 7
Dr Brasso...WHERES MY DAMN SMILEY??
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Idea
                        Posted by Dr Brasso on 
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                        how damn big are the textures yer trying to open??
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                        Re: Idea
                        Posted by KoRnFlakes on 
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                        dunno m8, but Will Rock has some of the nicest ancient style level design ive ever seen. The textures are v good so no doubt enormous.
+ orph v old version, 4/5 I dont use psp uc.
+cass, ta m8. dl it now, gonna take an hour though :/
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Idea
                        Posted by KoRnFlakes on 
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                        nah, thas alright orph m8. There are loads and loads of em in there & itd be nice to have something to open/save them with in future. I do plan to map a little when they eventually release a level editor for WR.
im dl that proggy that cass linked to now.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Idea
                        Posted by Dr Brasso on 
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                        id love to mess with the textures korny....feel like giving up a link so maybe i can figure a solution?
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                        Re: Idea
                        Posted by Dr Brasso on 
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                        ahhhhhh....well, thanx anyway m8....might have to loosen up the ole wallet.... :smile:
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                        Re: Idea
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                        :sad: what a waste of time, Looks like il need to try and find a contact to saber-interactive, ask them when a level editor will comes out for will rock & what I can view .pct files with.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Idea
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                        yeah, dont worry I use the forum. Its a bit un-used atm though :/
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Idea
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                        I vote for yay to a 2D art forum, I know that many of us level designers are getting into texture art more, and if there is a forum maybe more texture artists such as cass and korn would show up and frequent the place.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Idea
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                        Well, I would have been here to comment on this idea sooner but my windows XP regestry melted down, luckly I had everything but my most recent photoshop images backed up.   Had to install a second opperating system to even get to the files (in total 30 + hours of texture work source files).
Great idea for a new forumn, I know that I would use it for sure (that or continue to toss my postes in the general banter section).   I think a lot of people would also to be honest, if even for simple questions like how to make an image tile properly (I'm sure we could make a tutorial on something like that though.)   The key part though is in the naming, if it where named "texturing" or something along those lines then you would get all sorts of questions about how to align, rotate and god knows what else not related to actually making textures.   I guess it wouldn't hurt but it would seem to fit more in the "half-life editing" section.
I can think of all sorts of questions people might have regarding textures and how to create and minipulate them, some people may just want to know how to create a simple bump map.   As some of you pointed out, textures have always had the power to make or break a project (any situation that requires some degree of skill in creating and applying 2-d art).   HL-2 will depend greatly on the 2-d art applied to the geometry.
So as Orpheus predicted my vote is 100% PRO
-BTW my XP regestry melted shortly after my last texture post, I didn't get to see anyones feedback on them, once I get my machine fully rebuilt I'll have to repost them (sorry to anyone who gave input)
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Idea
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                        I back the idea, only so we can flood it with concept art! :biggrin:
                                    
             
        
            
            
            
                
    
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