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Re: Idea Posted by Cassius on Sun Aug 31st 2003 at 3:02pm
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We texture artists around here have our little tutorials and occaisional pimping of our work, but I think it would be nice if we got our own forum. With 'Help Wanted' gone, there really isn't a place for texture requests anymore, and questions about texture software, like Korn's recent thread.

With HL2 coming up, the demand for public textures is going to be much less with orange-mapping as the accepted style, and a texture artist who is willing to make you private, hi-res textures is going to become increasingly hard to find.

We could help the fledgling artists of the forum improve (images of Orpheus-esque texture pack reviews) and arrogant bastards like me could show off our work, while having a forum that mappers can ask for textures in without being called newbs.

So who's with me?
Re: Idea Posted by Orpheus on Sun Aug 31st 2003 at 3:09pm
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from what i have been able to gather, the future of HL is in its textures too.. more so than HL did..

you got my vote.. and if the slots are all full, i can stand down to make room for someone with more to contribute.. if its necessary..

you have my vote cass.. if its a choice between us..
Re: Idea Posted by Cassius on Sun Aug 31st 2003 at 3:50pm
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*bump
Re: Idea Posted by KoRnFlakes on Sun Aug 31st 2003 at 4:12pm
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I dont think there are enough artists here to compensate for an entire forum tbh.
Re: Idea Posted by Campaignjunkie on Sun Aug 31st 2003 at 5:10pm
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Oh yes there are. And if it doesn't work out, Lep can just delete it or something... Right? :razz:
Re: Idea Posted by Cash Car Star on Sun Aug 31st 2003 at 5:21pm
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Sure there's enough. I mean, there used to be a Jumpbot forum and how many people used that?
Re: Idea Posted by Vash on Sun Aug 31st 2003 at 5:32pm
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Yeah thats a good idea.

Theres also a nice 3D/art forum at www.psionic3d.co.uk
Re: Idea Posted by Leperous on Sun Aug 31st 2003 at 10:42pm
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If I see more art threads in here, then ok :P
Re: Idea Posted by Mr.Ben on Sun Aug 31st 2003 at 11:22pm
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You won't see more art threads till there is a 2d art forum? Thats comon knowledge! + I really like the idea, being a budding s**te texture hacker who can't make anything and lives by editing other peoples textures for my own needs (with permission :D)
Re: Idea Posted by Wild Card on Sun Aug 31st 2003 at 11:29pm
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You have my vote, between people requesting textures, and/or wanting to learn how to texture.  Hell, the Snarkpit would turn into a mapping/texturing website.  But then again, you cant make a map without textures now can you?
Re: Idea Posted by Cassius on Sun Aug 31st 2003 at 11:58pm
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*bump

Any way we can sticky this? I think it'd be a pretty important decision.
Re: Idea Posted by Orpheus on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 12:39am
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looks sticky now :)
Re: Idea Posted by Wild Card on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 12:40am
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I dont mind bumping it, keeps it at the top and gets my posts up :biggrin:

Wait... Since when have I cared about my post count? :confused:
Re: Idea Posted by Vash on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 12:43am
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w00t! now its a sticky thread!! Snarkpit would be an excellent site for a 2d art forum..I mean, so many mappers come here and they usually say the same thing about their maps "I know the textures suck.."
Re: Idea Posted by Wild Card on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 12:46am
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Vash said:
w00t! now its a sticky thread!! Snarkpit would be an excellent site for a 2d art forum..I mean, so many mappers come here and they usually say the same thing about their maps "I know the textures suck.."
Mine do, just ask Orph, he knows I like the fifties textures. :razz:
Re: Idea Posted by mike9292 on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 12:51am
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sounds like a good idea
Re: Idea Posted by Vash on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 3:28am
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he knows I like the fifties textures
 

Who doesnt? :biggrin:
Re: Idea Posted by Sinner_D on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 3:41am
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fifties roxor   :lol:    i wouldnt mind having more textures to work with. im all for an artist, 2d...3d art, texturing forum...whatever if it gets this site more wad files.
Re: Idea Posted by KoRnFlakes on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 7:46am
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meh, well I spus if we had a jumbot forum before, We can support a 2Dart forum.
Re: Idea Posted by Sim on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 10:09am
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Hold on..."I would like" and "what if..."  have been deleted!  Noooooo!
Re: Idea Posted by Gollum on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 10:12am
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KoRnFlakes said:
meh, well I spus if we had a jumbot forum before, We can support a 2Dart forum.
I thought the Jumbot, Map Reviews and Help Wanted forums were all a waste of space.  I'm glad they have been removed.

I'd love to see more texture art on this site, but to be honest I don't think there is nearly enough to justify a whole forum.
Re: Idea Posted by Orpheus on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 10:19am
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IMO, waste of space is in the eye of the beholder..

if we have 5 megs worth of texture questions scattered all over the general topic, or localized within a texture artist one, its still 5 megs..

i say, if cass is willing to commit himself to it whole heartedly.. he should have it..

it is a given, HL2 will rely on textures far more than HL1 did, why not have an area dedicated to it.

plus, even tho few used the jumbot forum, it still had users, should they have been punished for being few in numbers..??

/2cents
Re: Idea Posted by KoRnFlakes on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 11:41am
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since were on the subject of 2Dart, any idea of a plug-in or somesuch for photoshop to view .pct files?
Re: Idea Posted by Dr Brasso on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 3:00pm
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my 2 cents.....personaly, the texture art area of mapping is where i need the most help......imho....  :smile: i could use a good resource for my s**tty little questions....i too get tired of not having the skillz to produce my own good looking work, and being limited to using everyone elses  stuff, as it rarely fits my needs, and makes me settle for something not quite what i wanted-ish.....how 'bout it Leper, ole dude??

...../me leaves popcorn trail towards the yes column.... :lol:

Dr Brasso... :dodgy:
Re: Idea Posted by Orpheus on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 3:05pm
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i am betting, when grimlock gets here he will have a 1/2 page document on the pro's/con's of this idea.. wanna lay odds the "PRO" side will be a might bigger ..

 

/me uses brassmans dodgy smile cause he can't figure out how.. :dodgy:
Re: Idea Posted by Dr Brasso on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 3:07pm
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grrr....me waves stick at bud Orpheus......grrrr

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Re: Idea Posted by Cassius on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 3:08pm
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"since were on the subject of 2Dart, any idea of a plug-in or somesuch for photoshop to view .pct files?"

Never heard of a PCT, what is it?
Re: Idea Posted by KoRnFlakes on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 3:10pm
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afaik "PICT" its some sort of image or batch of images I guess. Its what most of the files in Will Rocks texture folder are called & im interested in seeing what the actuall file type is myself.
Re: Idea Posted by Orpheus on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 3:12pm
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Cassius said:
"since were on the subject of 2Dart, any idea of a plug-in or somesuch for photoshop to view .pct files?"

Never heard of a PCT, what is it?
seems to be a macintosh photo according to me PSP..

my advice korn, use PSP to convert it to a .jpg
Re: Idea Posted by Dr Brasso on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 3:12pm
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actually, the "pct" extension is , i believe. for mac files...and as such are supported in PS7 and PSP 7

Dr Brasso...WHERES MY DAMN SMILEY??
Re: Idea Posted by Cassius on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 3:14pm
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Did a little research, and I found out that they're Mac's version of the BMP. A little more research and I found out what you can use to open them in Windows:

http://www.cerious.com/download.shtml

Thumbsplus version 6. Tell me if it doesn't work.

(Cough PERFECT EXAMPLE OF A SUCCESSFUL USE OF POTENTIAL TEXTURE ART FORUM Cough)
Re: Idea Posted by KoRnFlakes on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 3:14pm
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open with>psp - "Bitmap or PICT is too big to import"

:(
Re: Idea Posted by Dr Brasso on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 3:15pm
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how damn big are the textures yer trying to open??

Dr B
Re: Idea Posted by Orpheus on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 3:26pm
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KoRnFlakes said:
open with>psp - "Bitmap or PICT is too big to import"

:(
what version of PSP?
Re: Idea Posted by KoRnFlakes on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 3:26pm
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dunno m8, but Will Rock has some of the nicest ancient style level design ive ever seen. The textures are v good so no doubt enormous.

+ orph v old version, 4/5 I dont use psp uc.

+cass, ta m8. dl it now, gonna take an hour though :/
Re: Idea Posted by Orpheus on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 3:32pm
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KoRnFlakes said:
dunno m8, but Will Rock has some of the nicest ancient style level design ive ever seen. The textures are v good so no doubt enormous.

+ orph v old version, 4/5 I dont use psp uc.

+cass, ta m8. dl it now, gonna take an hour though :/
mine is version 7, and maybe i could convert them for you, but have you tryed the link cass provided?

if all else fails, we can get them to me via my suitcase :)

they cannot be over 15 meg pictures..

lemme know and i will help if i can..
Re: Idea Posted by KoRnFlakes on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 3:34pm
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nah, thas alright orph m8. There are loads and loads of em in there & itd be nice to have something to open/save them with in future. I do plan to map a little when they eventually release a level editor for WR.

im dl that proggy that cass linked to now.
Re: Idea Posted by Dr Brasso on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 3:39pm
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id love to mess with the textures korny....feel like giving up a link so maybe i can figure a solution?

Dr Brasso... :dodgy:
Re: Idea Posted by KoRnFlakes on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 3:41pm
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cant m8, im just looking at the textures that came in the Will Rock engine. http://www.will-rock.com/ I bought the game recently, Just wanted to look at the texture files so if I map for it later il understand the texture file type.

Theres probably a better proggy for them out, prolly for serious sam since its much the same engine. Great game for 20 quid.
Re: Idea Posted by Dr Brasso on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 3:44pm
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ahhhhhh....well, thanx anyway m8....might have to loosen up the ole wallet.... :smile:

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Re: Idea Posted by KoRnFlakes on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 6:30pm
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:sad: what a waste of time, Looks like il need to try and find a contact to saber-interactive, ask them when a level editor will comes out for will rock & what I can view .pct files with.
Re: Idea Posted by Orpheus on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 7:11pm
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:sad: what a waste of time, Looks like il need to try and find a contact to saber-interactive, ask them when a level editor will comes out for will rock & what I can view .pct files with.
just a thought, but sometimes its beneficial to find a forum concerning a new game to see if they have the inside scoop on how to do this very act..

tis prolly how we all originally found SP :eek:
Re: Idea Posted by KoRnFlakes on Mon Sep 1st 2003 at 8:53pm
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yeah, dont worry I use the forum. Its a bit un-used atm though :/
Re: Idea Posted by ReNo on Tue Sep 2nd 2003 at 3:25pm
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I vote for yay to a 2D art forum, I know that many of us level designers are getting into texture art more, and if there is a forum maybe more texture artists such as cass and korn would show up and frequent the place.
Re: Idea Posted by GrimlocK on Wed Sep 3rd 2003 at 12:50am
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Well, I would have been here to comment on this idea sooner but my windows XP regestry melted down, luckly I had everything but my most recent photoshop images backed up.   Had to install a second opperating system to even get to the files (in total 30 + hours of texture work source files).

Great idea for a new forumn, I know that I would use it for sure (that or continue to toss my postes in the general banter section).   I think a lot of people would also to be honest, if even for simple questions like how to make an image tile properly (I'm sure we could make a tutorial on something like that though.)   The key part though is in the naming, if it where named "texturing" or something along those lines then you would get all sorts of questions about how to align, rotate and god knows what else not related to actually making textures.   I guess it wouldn't hurt but it would seem to fit more in the "half-life editing" section.

I can think of all sorts of questions people might have regarding textures and how to create and minipulate them, some people may just want to know how to create a simple bump map.   As some of you pointed out, textures have always had the power to make or break a project (any situation that requires some degree of skill in creating and applying 2-d art).   HL-2 will depend greatly on the 2-d art applied to the geometry.

So as Orpheus predicted my vote is 100% PRO

-BTW my XP regestry melted shortly after my last texture post, I didn't get to see anyones feedback on them, once I get my machine fully rebuilt I'll have to repost them (sorry to anyone who gave input)
Re: Idea Posted by Gwil on Wed Sep 3rd 2003 at 1:26am
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I back the idea, only so we can flood it with concept art! :biggrin:
Re: Idea Posted by Orpheus on Wed Sep 3rd 2003 at 1:27am
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Gwil said:
I back the idea, only so we can flood it with concept art! :biggrin:
knowing you, you were catching screenshots of me today :razz:

/runs
Re: Idea Posted by GrimlocK on Wed Sep 3rd 2003 at 1:30am
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Orpheus said:
Gwil said:
knowing you, you were catching screenshots of me today :razz:
No, I'm sure he has something much more sinistar planned for those :lol:
Re: Idea Posted by KoRnFlakes on Wed Sep 3rd 2003 at 9:17am
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GrimlocK said:
Orpheus said:
Gwil said:
knowing you, you were catching screenshots of me today :razz:
No, I'm sure he has something much more sinistar planned for those :lol:
hotornot.com :lol:
Re: Idea Posted by Kapten Ljusdal on Thu Sep 4th 2003 at 2:54pm
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that hotornot reminds me greatly of a site i know, only its not only people, its funny pics, close-ups, animals, cars and so on.. hotornot sucks in comparsion :dorky: