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                        Posted by satchmo on 
    Sat Jan 8th 2005 at 3:18am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        Has anyone else noticed that jumping ability seems diminished in a HL2 multiplayer game?  I don't know if it's just me, but I have to crouch-jump a lot more often in HL2DM.
Why is that?  Is it because I picked an Asian-looking character?
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: DM Can't Jump
                        Posted by Finger on 
    Sat Jan 8th 2005 at 3:42am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        wtf... that borders on distasteful humor.
The jumping does feel a little weaker, but you also get a cool sprint and built in strafe-jumping moves, so I guess it balances out somewhat.  I see alot of people complaining but it doesn't bother me much, although I am quite used to crouch jumping.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: DM Can't Jump
                        Posted by omegaslayer on 
    Sat Jan 8th 2005 at 3:43am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
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                        Yeah me too, im just accustomed to hitting space-ctr all in one motion, or even ctr-space for long jumps (which I miss)
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: DM Can't Jump
                        Posted by Orpheus on 
    Sat Jan 8th 2005 at 3:47am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        excuse me if i err again, but wasn't that a complaint in HL1 originally as well?
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: DM Can't Jump
                        Posted by Joe-Bob on 
    Sat Jan 8th 2005 at 3:50am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        With gravity gun jumping, I don't think that this is true at all. 
Jumping to about three times Gordon's height can be acheived with about 10
damage if done right, and any maps with vertical fighting is sure to
have plenty of props.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: DM Can't Jump
                        Posted by parakeet on 
    Sat Jan 8th 2005 at 3:51am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
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                        yeah but in tfc us medics got around that old trouble with concs = P ,
Why else would my name be Parakeet. Also ive gravity jumped all the time
3 times your height "no damage ,if you land on the physics object right
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: DM Can't Jump
                        Posted by Joe-Bob on 
    Sat Jan 8th 2005 at 3:55am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        I never said that you couldn't jump higher without damage, but that's
the best consistent jump I can get in a deathmatch situation.
I was a bit of a conc jumper myself, I also liked being a TFC medic. :smile:
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: DM Can't Jump
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    Sat Jan 8th 2005 at 3:59am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        Coming from HL1 and being a Tau freak, Gravity jumping just doesn't quite satisfy me.  I have done it on occasion, but unless I can figure out how to consistently do it, I almost don't even care.  I'm all about radiator hording, and GGgrenade tossing.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: DM Can't Jump
                        Posted by Joe-Bob on 
    Sat Jan 8th 2005 at 4:10am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        About the Asian thing, it IS acceptable to make fun of your race when
people know.  However, on the internet, you risk offending people
who don't have a clue what race you may be.  You'd be best off not doing it at all.
Anyway, I agree that jumping takes a bit of skill now.  Once you
play for a little while, you can probably know just when you need to
couch-jump and you would be able to get off a quick gravity gun jump if
need be.
I also support unpopular moves like bunnyhopping.  It takes skill to pull off stuff like that, despite the complaints.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: DM Can't Jump
                        Posted by ReNo on 
    Sat Jan 8th 2005 at 4:18am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        Bunny hopping in HL2DM seems quite inconsistant - its certainly
managable, often to extremely high speed and effective uses, but hard
to get working every time. I don't mean this in a skill based way
either, as despite using wha I would think to be the same techniques
every time, I don't find it working perfectly. I have found that if you
brush off physics objects such as cars while bunny hopping, it can
occasionally launch you forwards with a whole lot of speed :smile:
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: DM Can't Jump
                        Posted by satchmo on 
    Sat Jan 8th 2005 at 4:37am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        You master gamer you.  I don't even have any clue on how to bunnyhop, or what it is.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: DM Can't Jump
                        Posted by Mouse on 
    Sat Jan 8th 2005 at 4:44am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        The HL2 player feels heavier to me when jumping or falling. Crouch
jumping can get you pretty far, but I'm in the same catagory as
Finger when it comes to missing the tau and longjump.  I also miss
the rocket jumping from Quake 1, but that's something else.
I bet the HL2 Gordan could probably make the jump from the crates to
the two batteries in Stalkyard just as well as the HL1 Gordan can.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: DM Can't Jump
                        Posted by Nickelplate on 
    Sat Jan 8th 2005 at 4:47am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
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                        What kind of Asian are you? I am guessing Japanese-american. Right?
Yeah, what's bunny-hopping?
And I think that ppl can make fun of thier own type of ppl. Except Blacks, they can make fun of ANYONE it seems. :rolleyes: (and they normally do!)
What's grav jumping, precious?
PS TO MOUSE: It's spelled "Gordon"
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: DM Can't Jump
                        Posted by Mouse on 
    Sat Jan 8th 2005 at 5:00am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        Thanks, yeah, I always mess that up when I change models in Half-Life
DM.  It took me till I was in high school to figure out that
Michael had the a before the e and that's my dad's middle name.
Bunny hopping, though I've never been too great at it, is when you
strafe jump forward and gradually your speed increases.  There are
scripts that people use to do this in HL1 that can make them fly across
a room, it's really pretty incredible to see.  I can do it
manually to an extent and with HL2 being so slow I'm doing it much more.
I make fun of everyone.  Particularily myself.
Gravity-jumping is when you stand on a physics object and shoot the
G-Gun's primary fire down while jumping.  It's similar to
rocket/tau jumping, but I find it less consistent, possibly because I
am terrible at doing it.  In DM_casual, you can use the radiator
to grav-jump to the top of one of the buildings where there is an xbow
and some armor.  Sometimes I get it on the first try, sometimes it
takes me 20 tries.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: DM Can't Jump
                        Posted by Cassius on 
    Sat Jan 8th 2005 at 5:30am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        You know what they say: white men can't jump. That's why we use the Grav-Gun in basketball.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: DM Can't Jump
                        Posted by Foxpup on 
    Mon Jan 10th 2005 at 5:34am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        I've noticed I feel a lot heavier in HL2 than in HL1. Bunnyhopping in HL2 is great if you do it manually but if you use a script I'd call it cheating. Cheaters should be taken out and shot.