Rogue Threat

Looks quite promising so far. Very professional-appearing website:

http://www.roguethreat.com/

Yar.

Very good looking, I can tell this mod will actually come out, merely
because its got everyone so far: Programers modelers, texture artists,
etc. you know, not just a team composed of mappers galore.

If you want to see a mod that is 100% coming out, check out Fortress Forever, TFC brought up to the Source engine.

But still this mod looks good. Xen sounds like it would be nice to revisit.

They even have voice actors. They don't sound like they're professional actors, since they have gaming aliases. But at least the voice over isn't provided by the mappers.

It's an exciting time to be alive, and even more so if you have a nice gaming machine.

What did you guys think of the maps in the media section?

Personally, I thought it wasn't bad, but definitely nothing took my
breath away or made me look twice to see how it was done. In
fact, most of the screenshots made me a little queasy, because of the
light color choices and the lack of light variation. And if any
of their mappers frequent this site: no offense, just giving out my
honest opinion.

Spinky website, but there's something which doesn't look right with the light's in one of the levels in the media section.

NO NOT CHUMTOADS FFS USE SNARKS!!

Looks crap tbh!

Here- http://www.insmod.net/

You've probably seen it feature in PC Gamer mag and such.

All this mod talk reminds me... Who would be up for making a mod here in the snarkpit? The first I propose should be just simple HL1DM for HL2. I'd love to see a return, and I think it won't be too complex at all to produce. We can even have a mapping contest with the theme as "remake of an old HL1 level". We could make the mod in no time- I know theres several coders and modellers here amongst us, and everyone maps!

chumtoad, cumtoad... hmm...

they could use some more talented level desingers by the looks of the media section in my opinion, but these are probarbly just early screenshots.

seems like a cool mod.

All this mod talk reminds me... Who would be up for making a mod
here in the snarkpit? The first I propose should be just simple HL1DM
for HL2. I'd love to see a return, and I think it won't be too complex
at all to produce. We can even have a mapping contest with the theme as
"remake of an old HL1 level". We could make the mod in no time- I know
theres several coders and modellers here amongst us, and everyone maps!

Wow, that's a really sweet idea.

looks very good but what id really want to see is a mod (or even an expansion from valve) about the seven hour war and how the combine invaded

all the confusion at that time that humanity must have been feeling would give a great atmosphere i think plus id love to see the black ops put in somewhere

looks good but what id love to see is a mod (or an expansion from valve) about the seven hour war and the combine invasion

all the confusion at that time that humanity must have been feeling would portray a really good atmosphere i think plus i want to see the black ops tied in somewhere

looks good but what id like to see is a mod about the seven hour war and the combine invasion

all of the confusion that humanity must have been feeling at that time would portray a great atmosphere i think plus i want to see the black ops tied in somewhere

I like the story, not the level design, but like bio said, its too early to tell.

looks good but id like to see a seven hour war mod about the combine invasion

all of the worlds confusion at that time would portray a great atmosphere i think plus i want to see the black ops tied in somewhere

I want to see a "snark factor mod" :razz:

sorry about the multiple replies my browser kept saying page colud not be found so i kept going back and retyping and resubmitting

NO NOT CHUMTOADS FFS USE SNARKS!!

You might not like an original review of Half-Life then... :biggrin:

Hahah that's awesome, you learn something new (and useless) everyday.

And all this time I thought "chum toad" was something sven-viking came up with for the first sven-coop.

hl1 had a chumtoad model that was never used... theres been lots of references to it over the years.

hl1 had a chumtoad model that was never used... theres been lots of references to it over the years.

If you have Blue-Shift then go to your locker (at the begining of the
game), get a lot of ammo (impulse 101), and shoot the tiny box in the
bottom of your locker, and a chumtoad will appear.

myrk, if theres going to be a snarkpit mod make sure to put in some big
laser rifles or...pulse rifles (whats the diference), and make a
snark... a combine snark xD

Nah just HL1DM first.

it sounds pretty good, i think i got some frenzy map stuff somewhere, frenzy was my favorite hl1dm map xD.

god i miss the gauss and the egon

Exactly- we should rebuild those days, then make it quite admin based too- you could hybrid HL2DM and HL1DM together- have sprint mode and long jump :biggrin:

Someone's already done a pretty faithful conversion of stalkyard.

[url]http://www.hidden-source.com/index.php?page=2# [/url]

(its at the bottom)

It's for some strange mod though... seems kind of weird.

i have played that map for hl2dm, and the gameplay sucks (my opinion),
maybe it was because we were only 6 players or something like that, and
the admins were cheating >:E

If you could rip the models from HL Source, it would be very little work, apart from the mapping. I've coded a mod that replaces all the weapons in HL1, it wasnt particularly challenging.

this is a rather good start :biggrin: , did you make models too?

I ripped the models from CS, the mod was just HL1 but with CS weapons replacing the normal ones. I could probably do the same thing for source with HL1 weapons, but I'd need to obtain c++ .net somehow...

There is nothing I would like to see more than a remake of Eden by Peter Manson for HL2DM. This map was ahead of its time.

Maybe I am just biased because I was one of the few who knew how to get inside of the ammo-ridden shrine :smile:

There have allready been pretty faithful remakes of Stalkyard and Crossfire.

I don't see a need for having the long-jump but having the tau back would make me cream in my pants. Then again, getting to see my favourite mod-in-progress, Black Mesa Source completed will also make me cream myself. That is actually my second fav MIP...mine being first of course :wink:

Back to the topic. My favorite thing about this Rogue threat is the Combine Juggernaut you can find in the media section. It looks similar to the Strider except it is about 4x's the size. that is wixxed.

side topic: Would I be evil to remake the Eden map for HL2DM....if I still gave Pete full credit? Just wanna bring that map back into today :smile:

"This map was ahead of its time."

I'm afraid I have to disagree here. Eden was a very pretty map, and Peter Manson definately has skills, but his maps were IMO pretty much eye candy. I've been playing this game since it first hit the shelves, and can definately attest for the 'playability' of HL maps - Eden wasn't even on my list.

IMO, by definition, eye candy means excellent brushwork. I said it was ahead of its time because of its architecture. Maps that were a lot harder to make THEN than they are now. And I dunno of any other outdoor maps like that that had such beautiul arcs and low r_speeds and overall design and feel like that one.

Eye candy indeed, it was a work of art.

True, eye candy is a neccessary ingredient of a great map - but even more important than looks (in my book at least), is playability.

Nailing all of the catagories will take a map to the stratosphere - it will look great, play great, and be accepted by the highest ranks of hardcore players - the people who understand the mechanics of the game through and through.

Mansons maps came very close, but in the end, never reached that highest peak of playability. Not trying to knock the guy too hard, I really admire his vision and imagination. It just kinda sticks in my craw when I hear stuff like that, because, In my own mapping I will quickly lose glitter over playability and those sacrifices just aren't recognized as easily.

Another example of this is the HL2 map dm_depot. I saw on the steam forums that this map was featured in a major gaming magazine - touted 'the best user made map yet'. The map is beautiful and definately has great atmosphere, but far from the best user made map. Oh well, for me, the real reward is seeing one of my maps accepted into tourneys and such. If the hardcore players buy it - you've done something right.

rant off :razz:

Speaking of maps, I really don't like the way Rogue Threat's maps look.
They are SO dark that you think that the devs intentionally want to
hide something. The ugly brushwork, perhaps? Usually, people post
screenshots of what they consider to be the best of their work. If
that's their best...

my goodness, that black mesa: source mod looks overcool, i like that new garg model very very much :biggrin:

The models look great but the maps look even worse than the HL1 ones. :sad:

i dont get it, if they got such a good modeling team, why the f**k dont they make some custom props?

the power generator things needs to be shined up a bit

I'm the one who mapped that subway level they have in the media
section. It was the first map I ever made, so the criticism is well
taken, the constructive ones anyways. As darkness goes, I can see
detail on those shots just fine. Your monitor might have a low
brightness setting. I'm not trying to cover up brushwork, I spent a ton
of time with geometry in that map. I would post the bsp, but the admin
for the mod would probably not like that, so send me a PM if you want
it. The subway section had somewhat yellow lighting throughout to give
it a moody atmosphere, and I didn't get any complaints about it until
now. The sewer section was really a rush-job and I'm surprised they
released it as media, and the green lighting is admittedly overboard, I
just tried to make some creepy atmosphere. As far as it being the best
mapping work, it's actually the only stuff we have so far. That brings
me to this:

When the mod first came out, we requested dev members and got a flood
of applicants. Since then at least half have become inactive or dropped
out. I love the mapping that comes out here at Snarkpit, so is anybody
here willing to contribute? You can work as much or as little as you
want.

coge balas, I recommend you PM specific members to get their attention better. You can start with the members I mentioned to you earlier.

"This map was ahead of its time."

I will maintain that Eden is trash until the day I die. How such blocky terrain, complete with overscaled textures and sparse mockeries of foliage - not to mention blocky brushwork in general - can be considered in any way appealing is just beyond me.

If Eden was ahead of its time, then I don't ever want to see the maps that came before it.

Eden? As in CS_eden?

Finger said:
Another example of this is the HL2 map dm_depot. I saw on the steam forums that this map was featured in a major gaming magazine - touted 'the best user made map yet'. The map is beautiful and definately has great atmosphere, but far from the best user made map. Oh well, for me, the real reward is seeing one of my maps accepted into tourneys and such. If the hardcore players buy it - you've done something right.

Yeah Finger mate, I saw that 'the best user made map yet' comment too. Might have been PC Gamer UK, can't remember though. Probably someone from the mag glancing through the official Steam forums seeing all the "this map rocks dude!" comments from the dm_depot fanboys there.

Eden? As in CS_eden?

Eden....as in....Eden (for hl1dm)

I just joined up with the rogue threat team, as a mapper. hope this mod dosn't go the way of so many others...

I've been on so many MOD teams that simply just stop. It would be nice to get something done.