Episode III

The new star wars comes out in about two weeks (here in britain anyway) i was just wondering who would recommend to see it?
I was thinking about watching it but i thought the newest two were pretty pants but from the advertixments its starting to grow on me. i was just wondering what you guys thought of it?

I really liked 4,5 and 6, but thought the newer two were pretty
bad. I'm still going to go see the third one though, out of
curiousity and the hope that it will be better than Ep 1 and 2.

Go see it if you want, I don't see how our opinions will sway you either way.

Just go watch it. :razz:

Even if it's bad, I still want to watch it, because I am just too curious to find out exactly how Darth Vader became that messed up.

And Natalie Portman is still going to be in there. That's enough reason to watch the whole movie.

I love Star Wars - therefore I have to watch Episode III. :smile:

Look at the characters in Episode II that aren't in Episode IV: They all die.

It's the only PG-13 Star Wars film.

DARTH SIDIUS USES A LIGHT SABER

It's the only movie in the prequel trilogy that has Darth Vader

The first two prequels aren't bad movies. You're biased and have terrible contrasting skills to say they are. However, they aren't as good as the other SW films. (Yet, you have to wonder if the only reason why we think this is because we're alive during the time that they are coming out. Think about this for a moment: most people who were born after the original trilogy was completed will say Empire or Jedi are the best films, while people who were alive when all of them came out will say that A New Hope is the best ... leading me, personally, to believe that people are rating on nostalgia and not a film's merit. The same goes with many other movie series')

I already have my ticket to the May 19th 12:10 AM show time with my geeky friends. It'll rock. (If you want to know how far the geeky-ness goes, we're watching: Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, and Clone Wars before we go see Revenge of the Sith, and A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi the next day.)

Wow, man, Crono, you out-geeked me. That's not an easy thing to do. I was crowned as the official "geek king" back in high school.

I was alive when "Return of the Jedi" came out in theater, and I thought that was just the most spectacular film ever made. So I don't believe it's a total nostalgia bias. George Lucas has gotten rusty at film making, that's probably the explanation why these new films aren't up to par as the old series.

You seem to be thinking theres Phantom Menace, Attack of the clones and Clone wars all before Ep. 3.... The last 2 you listed are the same film, so in theory you should watch them all in 1 day.

However I laugh at people who are doing this- all unknowledgable as to the fact that they might be making 7, 8 and 9!

... and he didn't direct Empire or Jedi. (Irvin Kershner and Richard Marquand respectively) I will give him credit for editing them though. He can do that well at least.

Yet, I know people who're geekier then I. I was born like two months after Jedi came out.

My point is still valid. Most people don't accept new renditions of old stories because they were originally shown something and nothing ever again could be comparable. I think this is also the reason why most people just can't accept changes in a novel to movie process.

Also, on another note: apparently, Lucas got a acting coach for the actors in Revenge of the Sith. If you didn't know: Lucas can't work with actors for s**t. (thus the poor acting from Natalie Portman in Attack of the Clones ... I thought the dead-pan thing worked when she was queen though) The only good movie he's ever made outside of Star Wars is THX-1138.

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Myrk, we are watching them all in the same day ... ?

It doesn't matter if there's another Trilogy or not. My friends and I do stuff like this a lot. (We watched Blade 1 and 2 before seeing Trinity ... seeing how the second movie is obviously the best)

I think the only series of movies we wouldn't do this for is Land of the Dead. Just because the other three movies are so bad. Attack of the Clones and Clone Wars aren't the same thing. To be honest Clone Wars is much better; it's practically nothing but fighting.

But we usually end up talking more then watching movies. It's usually a social gathering.

If you think all that is bad ... we watched Predator 1 and 2 and all four Alien movies before we went to see AvP. However, we talked through almost all the movies.

I never realized hanging out with friends was laughable.

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And talk about being geeky...I don't think anyone has ever done this before, but I've done it--twice.

I created a single-player map, and then I spent a day writing a complete walkthrough for my own map. Now, that's some extreme geek stuff that's hard to top.

And I memorized pi to the two hundredth place while I was in high school. I sound like I am proud of it...because I am.

satchmo said:
And I memorized pi to the two hundredth place while I was in high school. I sound like I am proud of it...because I am.

Why?! I know that pi is 3.14159. Or I just hit the pi sign on the calculator. I don't see why yu would need to memorize it to the hundreth place.

I did it because I am geeky. I thought most fellow geeks would understand, but I guess I assume too much.

There are international pi memorization contests where contestants recite pi from memory for days at a time. It's incredible how much time and effort people would spend doing something so meaningless.

http://www.pi-world-ranking-list.com/

However, I still remember it to many digits, definitely more than most people can remember.

3.141592653589793238462643383279502...

Crap, that's it. It's pathetic compared to what I used to remember.

I bet you didn't know there are so many interesting facts about a simple number...

http://www.cecm.sfu.ca/pi/pi.html

Does pi ever repeat itself?

The new star wars comes out in about two weeks (here in britain
anyway) i was just wondering who would recommend to see it?
I was
thinking about watching it but i thought the newest two were pretty
pants but from the advertixments its starting to grow on me. i was just
wondering what you guys thought of it?

I really dont know what to think of it, I havent seen it yet! Nor has
anyone here (unless they got a sneak preview), therefore I don't think
anyone here can really give you a valid recomendation. Wait till the
19th of May, then ill tell you :wink: .

But I can tell you that the people who havent seen any of trhe movies,
cried to learn what Anikin did to himself, and the people who are
die-hard Star Wars fans said that they really enjoyed it! So maybe you
can form you own opinion about it based off of this info :smile: .

Spartan said:
Does pi ever repeat itself?

This post confuses me, because I learned about pi in the sixth grade, and figured everyone else had too.

Cassius said:
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I guess there are people in the world who don't know an irrational number when they see one.

Ep. 1 was good.

Ep. 2 was incredibl.....y boring.

Ep. 3 I hope will be sweet.

Ep. 4 was ok/boring.

Ep. 5 was ok.

Ep. 6 was awesome.

Does pi ever repeat itself?

http://members.ispwest.com/r-logan/fullbook.html

Lots of brain food :biggrin:

I watched 4, 5, 6 and then 1 and 2 in preparation for 3. I still
think The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones weren't great.
The fight scenes (especially at the end of both movies) were
spectacular and very entertaining, but I felt the
first two movies really just relied on the visuals more than the
characters or the acting or even the plot. I liked Liam Neeson
and Ewan McGregor, but Hayden just didn't do it for
me. I mean... Mark Hamill wasn't a great actor
either, but the interplay between him, Carrie Fisher and Harrison Ford
(in the first movie) puts him above Hayden. I think you're right
when you say that part of the appeal of 4, 5, and 6 is nostalgia.
But I wouldn't say I'm biased / have terrible contrasting skills when I
say I thought 1 and 2 were pretty bad.

My beef just boils down to: I felt they focused more on spectacle and
special effects, and the plot didn't draw me in in the same way 4, 5,
and 6 did/do. Some of that is nostalgia, but I think that even
objectively 1 and 2 are poorer movies.

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<DIV class=quotetext>The first two prequels aren't bad movies. You're biased and have terrible contrasting skills to say they are. </DIV></DIV>

Er, and you're not biased since you like them... riiiiight. They are bad movies in some people's estimation- they're childish, commercial vehicles, with annoying characters, a generally "camp" feeling, and very little of anything that feels sinister or threatening in them. And I'm not "biased" or basing my opinion of what everyone else thinks- I liked the last two Matrix films, but I still don't think they were very good films! Do I like the original 3 either? Not terribly, but I can see that when they were released they would have been huge things.

Besides, being a sci-fi man myself, I think Star Wars was always a poor-mans sci-fi Universe- I would say it's just a fantasy, with lots of "future-retro" equipment lying around :razz:

Thanks for supporting my point ...

I'd suggest comparing Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, Reloaded, and Revolutions as movies to other movies. They aren't "bad", they have a nice three act structure with well fleshed protagonists and antagonists with adequate conflict and underlying meaning. That doesn't classify bad really unless the films you compare them to are better films. What I say doesn't really matter because I'm not trying to change anyones opinion on this, I mean, the general "they suck" attitude is well in effect, that's fine, it's whomever's opinion. I'm not saying they're excellent films, but they're far from being "bad movies". I don't think I'd classify them with something like ?Catwoman? or ?Mansquito?, for example (something obviously bad).

The only reason, honestly, SW was ever popular is because they were classified as ?Sci Fi? instead of just films. I suppose as ?films? they are rather flimsy (even though they portray a very romantics story) However, if they are ?sci-fi? or something like that, the general conception is they're inheritly bad. Which means when something decent is made, it is over praised. Both Star Wars and The Matrix are an example of this (in fact, I don't even think I'd consider The Matrix to be a sci fi movie. Why isn't hyper-reality a genre?)Genre separation is messed up anyway and a completely different conversation.

Not concepts I'd ever expect anyone else besides myself to agree with.

It's just an opinion though. You don't have to agree with me, obviously.

Also, Pi is easiest left as Pi because in most calculations it'll probably cancel out (however most of my experience with this value is in physics which makes everything work out nicely ... just like the real world.)

I was going to see it anyway i just wanted to know what you guys thought it was going be like. Plus i think that the guy who plays anakin in the second and third one it a complete s**t actor. (but im hoping he'll be better in Revenge of the Sith)

How the hell did that ancient Greek guy first worked out Pi anyway??

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I guess there are people in the world who don't know an irrational number when they see one.

Dope! Forgot it was irrational. Ok back on topic.

Why people thought Episode 1 sucked:

1. Jar Jar was annoying as f**k (as well as the rest of that bastard race)

2. Anakin was annoying as f**k

3. The main characters had no likeable characteristics

4. The robot army and The Trade Federation were laughable excuses for bad guys

5. Trade Embargos? Diplomatic unrest? Oh noes!!1 Seriously, how is this
at all interesting? If I wanted to watch old bastard politicians
bitching at each other, I'll go watch parliament thank you very much.

Redeeming Features:

1. Kick ass battle scenes

2. Samuel Motherf**king Jackson

...

...um.

Why people thought Episode 2 sucked:

1. Jar Jar was annoying as f**k, despite only being on screen for 30 seconds

2. Anakin was annoying as f**k

3. Boba Fett was annoying as f**k

4. Poor excuse for a love plot

Redeeming Features:

1. Kick ass battle scenes

2. Samuel Motherf**king Jackson

...

...yeah. As far as I'm concerned, the prequels were only interesting when something blew up.

IMO, of course. :rolleyes: :razz:

That said, I am lookling forward to Ep. III, mainly because the trailer alone is better than both prequels put together.

The worst part of the new ones, was when Yoda fought. It was
possibly the dumbest thing I have ever seen. He hobbled in, and
then they threw him around the room, and then he hobbled back.
That just angered me. I was born in 1991, and when my brother
turned, maybe 7, my parents bought him the trilogy. I used to
watch them once a day, and they're still my favourite movies. I
think the new ones really really suck. Lucas is declining, and I
think the only reason he is doing this last one is for personal
reasons. I think he just wants to finish his double trilogy so he
can say he has.

I also think they should release the originals on DVD, none of this digitally remastered crap.

I also think they should release the originals on DVD, none of this digitally remastered crap.

That'll never happen. Go find the laser discs.

I also think they should release the originals on DVD, none of this digitally remastered crap.

I have the originals on VHS, with comentary from George himself.

BTW there are these cartoons of the clone wars
Here that are some what
cool (IMO anyways), they play on cartoon network, and soon they are
going to have a marithon next weekend for all of them (all 25 10 min.
episodes)

Its about time Lucas Arts made something good

Episode 4-6 = win.

I liked the battles in space. They are based on the air combats from WWII so a lot of action there. (Remember the Millenium Falcon's Laserturrets? They are like those machine guns of the B17 or equal airplanes)

Ok, so Episode 4-5-6 were great

Episode 1 was a laugh

Episdoe 2 was OK

Let's hope episode 3 makes it all up for the prequels.

Also, I'm still hoping for Episode 7-8-9 based on the Thrawn Trilogy by Timothy Zahn. Excellent books.

I'm pretty sure George Lucas is looking forward to putting Star Wars behind him and move on to more Artsy / Risky films.

I didn't say <span style="font-style: italic;">Lucas </span>should do it.

im only really looking forward to episode three bacause it just looks darker and more adult. i mean episode one just seemed like it was aimed at a young audience which i think it shouldnt have been.

yeah, im hoping for some leg breakage and a lot of death(ness), and ofcourse lasers :biggrin:

I'm sure we'll see plenty of arms getting cut off.

My theory as to why 1 and 2 sucked is, as someone said before, the visuals. Episodes 4,5,6 were all done in a time were computer animation lacked and was very complex. Some much time was put intom makeing these almost cheesy modals fit into the movie that these cheesy modals actually made the movie great. Also, because of the harsh visuals, plot was accented around the visuals.

Episodes 1 and 2 flawed because they were made in a time period of easy manipulation of graphics programs, you could create almost anything in computer form these days. Because of this, they put less strain on making it all fit. Thus the effort around the computer visuals deminish and it just makes it feel less like Star Wars. Almost every piece of complex props were basically done in 3d, it drains from the creativity of modalers working days apon ened to create a perfect modal the "fits" with the scene. Thus my point.

Also, on a different subject. How anakin becomes so messed up, I believe h will become mortally wounded in the fight with Obi Won; thus, he gets all meesed up, needs mounds of machine to keep him alive, and, the thing we all love, a respirator to let hime breath.

By the way, I'm not a big Star Wars buff, I'm just a buff when it comes to movies, and visual media, with great plot and visuals.

Also, as a little factoid, it's said that Lucas got help from Spielberg who is co-Director, this time throughout the entire movie; instead of several small parts.

Obi threw anakin into a lava pit

He survived, but he needs his suit to keep him alive

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I was alive when "Return of the Jedi" came out in theater,

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. I was born like two months after Jedi came out.

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You asswipes, you make me feel so f**king old.

I suppose that I shouldn't tell you that I watched movies like "The GodFather" and "High Plains Drifter" at the drive in, when they were new/first released.

Fjorn said:
Obi threw anakin into a lava pit

He survived, but he needs his suit to keep him alive

As I said, I'm not a Star Wars buff, just a "visual media with good plot" buff. aka Movies, video games, and good quality anime.

i hated jar-jar, the kid anakin and some other stuff, but i liked the battles and effects and thats why i'll go see ep3 too. + to see vader turn dark

i guess thats the opinion of most/some ppl here

The kid in Episode 1 was no where near as annoying as his older self in Episode 2. It gets really annoying watching a giant mangina cry through the whole movie.

I'm in such a big hype this morning,

I just received word from AMC, the theatre I work at, that Fox is actually letting more than one person see the screenings, employees only at my theatre though. Fox was being hog and sent out a report to every theatre, that ordered some copies of SWIII, that the theatres could only let one person screen each copy at a time, before the movie officially released. Why they did that, when employees at most theatres get free movies anyway, I don't know why.

This is big news for me and every other employee at the Stonebriar Mall AMC in Frisco Tx.

What all this means is that I will most likely get to see Star Wars on the Tuesday or Wednesday before the movie releases on Thursday.

Reviews are popping up all over the place. Word is that it's the best Star Wars flick since Empire.

Revenge of the Sith doesn't really answer any questions, since
we know the answers already. Anakin Skywalker is seduced to the dark
side of the Force and becomes Darth Vader. Chancellor Palpatine is
revealed to be Darth Sidious. The Jedi are annihilated. Obi-Wan Kenobi
and Yoda go into exile on different planets. The democratic Republic is
devoured by the Empire. Instead of answers, what we gain from watching Revenge of the Sith
is details. These events come to life and we are presented with the
opportunity to understand the particulars of each event. The jigaw
puzzle is complete. In the process, Vader has been humanized in a way
that even the ending of Return of the Jedi was unable to accomplish. It will not be possible to watch the original trilogy in the same way again. Revenge of the Sith changes everything. It invests so much else in the light saber duel between Obi-Wan and Vader in A New Hope and shifts the dynamic surrounding the Emperor's attempted seduction of Luke in Return of the Jedi. It's during that titanic struggle that Anakin finally emerges as the Chosen One and returns balance to the Force.

...

It's necessary to say a word or two about Darth Vader. After all, Revenge of the Sith
shows us the birth of one of the 20th century's most iconic villains.
By avoiding excessive reverence, Lucas makes the first appearance of
the black mask and costume a moment of profound sadness. In that
moment, we aren't so much experiencing the emergence of Vader as we are
seeing the final death throes of Anakin. And, while there's an admitted
thrill to hearing the voice of James Earl Jones, the content of some of
Jones' lines is unlike anything we have previously heard from the
voice-box of Vader. Not all eyes will be dry by the end of Revenge of the Sith. It has an emotional kick that no Star Wars film other than The Empire Strikes Back has achieved.

http://movie-reviews.colossus.net/movies/s/sw2005.html

One of my favourite critics' take on the movie; I tend to agree with him a lot.

I'd have to agree, the reason the first 2 episodes were terrible is because they were simply trying to fill a void that was already hard to fill. 3 will be a lot better because it finishes the void and Lucas can finally go all out and release wht ever is left from the Star Wars story, instead of useing it sparsly to lapse it into thre prequalls. But again, Lucas finally accepts full co-directorship with Spielburg. The last time they teamed up, we got to experience the Indiana Jones movies.

Hopefully their combined creativity will produce a memorable and spectacular conclusion to the pre-trilogy.

Ouch! Brace yourself if you haven't read this scathing review from The Rolling Stones about Episode III. It makes it sound like a movie enjoyed only by the blind and deaf.

http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/movie/_/id/6140458?pageid=rs.Home&pageregion=double1&rnd=1115942400779&has-player=true&version=6.0.11.813

Of course, I'm still watching it, but I just won't keep my expectation up.

Hey it might be shiet, but thanks to my company i get to see an advanced preview of it on May 19th at 4 pm for free + Drink and food thrown in as well.

Yeah baby!

I've said this before, but here I go again.

Thanks to the fact I work at AMC theatres, I will be seeing Star Wars Episode III on May 17 or 18 at the employees only screening.

I've said this before, but here I go again.
Thanks to the fact I work at AMC theatres, I will be seeing Star
Wars Episode III on May 17 or 18 at the employees only screening.

I hate you for that.

:biggrin:

Ouch! Brace yourself if you haven't read this scathing review
from The Rolling Stones about Episode III. It makes it sound like a
movie enjoyed only by the blind and deaf.
http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/movie/_/id/6140458?pageid=rs.Home&pageregion=double1&rnd=1115942400779&has-player=true&version=6.0.11.813

Of course, I'm still watching it, but I just won't keep my expectation up.

Since when has Rolling Stone held any sort of credibility? :razz: