Next Gen Consoles

What would you most likely buy, and why?

I just want to know cause all the people I know seem to favor the PLaystaion 3 over the 360 and I'm the only one who likes the 360 better :sad: .

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I'd go xbox. The PS3 controllers look REALLY uncomofrotablye.

Yeah they looked like somebody stretched a normal controller

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Dude if your gunna do a poll, you gotta have a no vote option. Also you missed out the Nintendo Revolution, and that other new console coming out soon.



Its boxed shape, but has an angled stand for it.

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Agreed. Where's the revolution? Bearing in mind that it has Metroid
Prime 3 and the ability to download old games (i.e. Goldeneye), it
would not be unreasonable for some people to buy it... :biggrin: I certainly
will.

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Voted #2, PS3

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Loco said:
Agreed. Where's the revolution?

Also a vote for "All of them" :smile:

xbox 360, playstation sucks imo :wink:

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Hell, is an half-filled auditorium

Add a "None: I can't play those damn things!" option and I'll vote.

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I voted playstation 3. The first 2 never let me down and
backwards compatability means my collection never becomes obsolete!

will most likely not buy one but xbox360. It looks a lot nicer and i am
just getting better vibes from MS this time round compared to sony

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Xbox 360 for me, mostly based on the love of their last system.

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It depends on the games. I wouldn't spend money on an Xbox, ever, though. They don't deserve money for licensing other people's systems.

BUT! I would definitely want the Revolution, backwards compatible and download-able games (emulated back to the NES).

I think Sony is a bunch of ass clowns. But, dammit, they have Konami by the balls. I'd imagine things would play out close to the same except, I bet MS would try to get more exclusive titles. I know Sony is going to lose a crap load of money, they didn't even make a profit on the PS2 until last year (the actual console, before that they were making all their money off games, which is why they were mad people just bought PS2s to play DVDs)

It really depends on the games and the price. PS3 will cost an arm and a leg. The Xbox will have the same generic crap that the current Xbox has. The revolution will have the same old same old Nintendo stuff, which I would be most comfortable spending money on.

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Blame it on Microsoft, God does.

if i were to spend my money on any of them i would have to go with the nintendo

because its nintendo and by my oppinion has better games

I get a stronger urge to strangle you each time your opinion of the
Xbox gets voiced Crono :biggrin: Stop worrying about principles and don't let
them blind you to the wealth of great games on the system.

I hate all the console politics people get into - appreciate them all
for what they have. When I was looking at news sites about the PSP,
about 80% of news comments were made by DS fans slagging off the PSP.
Jumping over to the DS news comments, the situation was reveresed.
Spread the love all around if you can afford it, or pick the one that
suits you best. Just because you jump on board with one doesn't mean
you have to defend your choice vehemently by slagging off the others.

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Heh, that's true, ReNo.

Personally, I like the PC most. It's multi-functional, and upgradeable. More expensive but for me it's worth it. So, yeah... :smile:

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You mean all the games that are on other systems? Or the ones that they ported to computer? :razz:

I don't really have a "preference" in the way you're thinking, but, seriously, there's little reason to buy an Xbox, for me, and for many people, even if they don't realize it. It's bulky, has the same games as everything else, amongst other things I don't agree with (I don't like how they have their online situation set up in some aspects).

Sony stuff just simply costs too much for the quality of the product (PSP included, but is broadly poor over all their electronics). I'm sorry, I think not buying something because of designed defects is a good reason.

I don't know where it is, but there was an article quoting SCEA (I think it was the American branch) CEO, as saying something along the lines of admitting to developing the PS2 to break, so consumers have to purchase a new one.

Let me get this straight though: you're telling a computer scientist to ignore principles regarding a computer related product (literally)? That's like telling a mechanic to take his car to Jiffy Lube, he/she(d) would get very ... agitated.

Don't let that video game induced rage out on me! I have valid opinions, not many other people really understand what I'm talking about, that's all.

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Blame it on Microsoft, God does.

I'm sure you do have valid opinions and I'm sure your principles are
good ones, but it just seems a shame to let these things get in the way
of enjoyable gaming. I mean, I hate the fact that since I bought
my Xbox reasonably early, I'm lumbered with a s**tty Thompson drive
that crashes in about 60% of new games. I still love my Xbox though, as
I think its positives far outweigh its negatives, no matter how deal
sinking those negatives may be in some people's books. Even if a
company does have faults or the console isn't technically sound, should
that mean you forsake playing all the great games being put out by good
developers for that console purely because of the console they find
themselves on? You aren't really the sort of target I'm getting at here
as you DO like games on any console - plenty of PS2 games for example,
despite your obvious disdane toward Sony.

I buy consoles for the gameplay experiences - not their technical
specifications, manufacturing processes, marketing approach, or
business practices.

Oh and most of my favourite games from this generation have been Xbox
exclusives, so I'm certainly one the few who "needed" one :smile:

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No, I know what you mean. But, to be honest: yes, a consoles flaws is something that discourages me from even thinking about purchasing the machine. I, sadly, got a PS2 within the month it was released, I was young and reckless! Waste of damn money. Not to say I wouldn't eventually have had one, but not many good games, if any, came out it's first year (MGS2 came out 2001 .. or so) ((Not to mention, the f**king thing broke THE DAY I bought it. Not entirely sure what happened, but thinking back, it seems like something got a little too much power and fried/shorted)

But, I've read so many things about the crap the early Xbox's did. Oh man. Grinding the disc? HA! I know they fixed that by the third shipment or something, but still.

It wouldn't be as bad if all these companies didn't claim to "be the best", because quite frankly, they're bastards and don't deserve a cent. The only thing I'd actually give Sony is that they took the R&D time to create a product. I really have no respect, or tolerance, for Microsoft.

But if it's any consolidation, I feel the same way about Ford. So it's not really designated to a specific field. But, MS has done way too many negative things, in my book, that I can't look past. I know their product practices, and I know they apply them to all aspects of their business.

On top of that, it really sucks, because, like Ford, they started off as a decent company trying to make their field of business better (while still making money). If they didn't abandon that idea, then I'd probably have a much different opinion of them.

What exclusive titles? You can't say Halo 2 or Panzer Dragoon Orta (Since those are the only exclusives I know of at this point) I know it's version of D3 was unique, or something.

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Blame it on Microsoft, God does.

Project Gotham Racing series, Amped series, Dead or Alive series, Jet
Set Radio Future, Panzer Dragoon Orta (just cause you know it doesn't
stop it being awesome :biggrin: ), Phantom Crash, Ninja Gaiden, Gun Valkyrie,
Otogi series, etc... I've done this list before but you never take it
on board :razz: To me, the Xbox has probably got the most consistantly good
exclusives, even more so than Nintendo for my tastes. On the other
hand, as you rightfully draw attention to, it also has potentially the
fewest exclusives.

Truth told, I bought the Xbox with a handful of games in mind, and they
all impressed me no end (PGR, Halo, Amped, JSRF, DOA3 - what an awesome
first set of games). I bought the PS2 with a handful of games in mind,
and they all disappointed to some degree (Auto Modellista, Tekken Tag,
FFX, Gran Turismo 3, Ridge Racer 5). I bought the gamecube with a
handful of games in mind, and haven't really had a chance / had the
interest to sit down and play many of them at all (Eternal Darkness
hasn't even been out of its box, I'd played RE4 to death on my
old flatmate's GC before I bought my own) :sad:

All 3 have won me round in their own ways; the Xbox in all round gaming
goodness both online and off, the PS2 for the odd exlusive gems like
Ico and GT4 (though if more would actually make it to the UK - such as
Front Mission 4 and Katamari Damaci - it might be higher in my
estimations!), and the Gamecube for spontaneous flat multiplayer
sessions on Mario Kart and Mario Tennis. All 3 have a place in my
collection and I hope all 3 of the upcoming ones will too, but I'm
fairly confident I'll be happy if I make the 360 my first investment.

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im proud of you for not mentining halo

i will probably never buy another console

i would choose pc but thats not a console

so i go with nintendo

for reasons such as- Mario, MarioKart, Super Smash Bro's, Zelda, i havent found a match for these

Gun Valkyrie and Otagi don't count, they're made by Sega They look good though ... but they're made by Sega, so of course they're good (Same, with Orta).

Don't care about DOA, 2 on the DC was the best one.
Racing games aren't my taste.
Ninja Gaiden, I heard, was a big let down if you're a fan of the originals
Never heard of Amped, and I though Jet Grind Radio was okay.

Those are just my opinions.

Katamari Damaci is really fun. Has a sequel coming out soon too! (I <3 Damaci)

Alien Hominoid is really fun, not that it's exclusive on any platform.

Actually, have you heard of Okami? It's coming out on PS2, looks very interesting (ICO interesting). I suggest checking it out.

But, if it makes you feel any better, there's only two potential games on any future console I've seen that have my interests peaked at all: MGS4 (obvious reasons) and City of Metronome. Your attacks are sounds you play together and some other weird stuff. It looks really cool. Those are both PS3 titles, however, if that console costs $400-$500, like Sony is saying, then there's no way in hell I'll get it ... even for the most amazing games.

All the "pimping" for the next gen. consoles really hasn't appealed, because they haven't shown games that look interesting. I'm also getting really glossed over with the graphics whoring that's going on.

The thing I think is most interesting, is that, Sega made quite a bit a of money last year. They also have a new president, so I wouldn't be surprised if they started developing another console sometime.

You can love your Xbox all you want though. I like how we can actually discuss it though. Everyone else I've 'disagreed' with actually is very not-understanding about my view. They also seem to think I couldn't fathom why there are fun games on the console, but it's quite the opposite.

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Blame it on Microsoft, God does.

Hehe, Sega did play quite a big part in my buying of an Xbox! As a huge
Dreamcast fan, the Xbox was the most appealing for a couple of reasons.
First off, the obvious controller comparison - MS just ripped it right
off and added in some improvements, which I'm perfectly content with
them doing as its resulted in the best console controller ever :wink: Next
up was the continuation of some of my favourite DC games - Project
Gotham Racing was a great follow up to the wonderful Metropolis Street
Racer, DOA3 followed DOA2 with just "more" of everything really, and
Jet Set Radio Future as a hugely fun though not entirely successful
sequel to JSR/JGR.

Amped is a series of snowboarding games, that unlike most of the
competition, goes at least some way toward being realistic. Graphically
it was just jaw droppingly gorgeous, it had a huge and great
soundtrack, and had a wonderful control system. Amped 2 kinda pulled
away from the realism a bit due to adding in butters (the snowboarding
equivelant of a manual/wheelie) that lead to rather stupidly huge
combos, Tony Hawk's style, but was at times horrendously challenging
(in a good way), had bigger courses, and other improvements that make
it, to me, by far the best snowboarding game ever made. The sequel for
the Xbox 360 is sounding like its going a bit too unrealistic again for
my liking, but we shall soon see :smile:

I did consider picking up Alien Hominid, but it strikes me as one of
those games that I'll probably be able to pick up brand new for ?10 or
something after a few months. Over the holidays I haven't had easy
access to a games shop and while online shops are often cheaper, they
are somewhat harder to just spend a while browsing with the same
effect, so games like that tend to get put on the backburner for some
reason. There is a big mostly second hand games store opened up near my
uni flat recently, so I'll look for stuff like that in there sometime.
I picked up Extreme G3, Eternal Darkness, Super Monkey Ball and Bloody
Road 5 (think its 5? Barely played it) for ?20 in that store - you just
CANNOT complain at those prices!

Okami does indeed look awesome - I tend to get drawn in any time
something goes for an original graphic style :smile: On the flipside, I
wouldn't be all that surprised if it never hits the UK shores - all the
PS2 games that interest me seem not to! At least I'll have Wanda and
Colossus to keep me happy with my PS2 for a while, and I've yet to play
God of War which I hear is awesome.

Anyway, Viva la Sega revolutione!

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Wanna vote what games will be ported from the xbox to the xbox 360?

Here

Half Life 2 was winning column 1 last time I checked and the 2 i wanted to win in colomn 2 were winning also (Jet Set Radio Future and Morrowind).

Also I will rethink about buying the Revolution because I never knew it was backwards compatible all the way back to the nes :o even though I just use my chipped xbox 2 play all games up untill the playstation one anyway :smile: .

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Yeah I voted on that yesterday actually :smile: My votes...

Column A

Amped 2

Fatal Frame 2

Kingdom Under Fire

Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath

Phantom Crash (sob, seems I'm the only one :sad: )

Column B

Beyond Good and Evil (Great to see this getting votes!)

Gunvalkyrie

Jet Set Radio Future

Otogi 2

Panzer Dragoon Orta

I suggest (plead?) that others do similar :biggrin:

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Yeah i was suprised Beyond Good and Evil was doing so well because I always felt bad for it because for such a great game it was overlooked by many.

Also, I heard they were gunna remake or make a sequel to Final Fantasy 7 for something a while ago, if it turns out to be the PS3 I may consider getting the PS3.

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Well I put xbox 260, but i'm actually quite undecided between the two
as I won't actually buy one, I don't really play games anymore.

NOW it all makes sense. You're just a Sega man!

I <3 Sega too. But I still wouldn't buy a console for only three or so games.

I'm still having a hell of a time finding old Sega games though ... oh Burning Rangers, I almost had you

Yeah, get this, they changed the name to "Shadow and the Colossus" here. Because, apparently, "Wanda" is Japanese for dark, over-boding, or something. At least that's what a friend tried explaining.

AH should already be dirt cheap, here it was $19.99 new when it came out. It isn't worth more then maybe half that though, since it could have been made with flash
It's still fun. I suppose it is a backburner game though, there's just so many other games coming out that are, well, better.

I'm shocked that there are a slew of games you don't get there. To think, that's how it used to be here on the SNES and such. So many games that never saw our shores. (Super River City Ransom ... RCR but better)

I still think though that there is no "best controller", seriously, it depends on what you're playing. If I'm playing some fighting game (2d or not), I want either a SNES controller or an arcade setting. I can't use bulky controllers that are comfortable ... makes my hands move slow.

I think it's actually interesting when you play certain games with other console controllers (through whatever means). You realize ... they worked really well with the controller they were made for.

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Blame it on Microsoft, God does.

I have a copy of Burning Rangers sitting at home ... along with panzer
dragoon saga. I don't know why I'm telling you this because I'm
still banking on getting my Saturn fixed (and therefore I'm keeping the
games until then)... I just don't know how or where. Basically I
think the internal battery is shot... can't save games anymore.

Edit: Ooh can't forget Dragon Force... I love that game.

seems I'm the only one hating consoles...

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I have a copy of Burning Rangers sitting at home ... along with panzer
dragoon saga. I don't know why I'm telling you this because I'm
still banking on getting my Saturn fixed (and therefore I'm keeping the
games until then)... I just don't know how or where. Basically I
think the internal battery is shot... can't save games anymore.

Edit: Ooh can't forget Dragon Force... I love that game.

I know you already have it ... bastard.

By the way ... it'd probably be cheaper just to buy another Saturn. I picked mine up for under $20 (USD). Found two memory cartridges too! Take a look on ebay ... cheap stuff.

I don't understand some people's "computers are better period" attitude, sometimes. Just because ignoring the Console world of gaming limits you to only about 40% of the games. My favorite games are NOT natively on a computer

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Blame it on Microsoft, God does.

Amped is a series of snowboarding games, that unlike most of the
competition, goes at least some way toward being realistic. Graphically
it was just jaw droppingly gorgeous, it had a huge and great
soundtrack, and had a wonderful control system. Amped 2 kinda pulled
away from the realism a bit due to adding in butters (the snowboarding
equivelant of a manual/wheelie) that lead to rather stupidly huge
combos, Tony Hawk's style, but was at times horrendously challenging
(in a good way), had bigger courses, and other improvements that make
it, to me, by far the best snowboarding game ever made. The sequel for
the Xbox 360 is sounding like its going a bit too unrealistic again for
my liking, but we shall soon see

I liked the first one

but the second amped changed the controls and i didnt like it as much

still good gameplay and scenery

Yeah I guess "best controller" isn't really a good term to use, but I
find it the best all round controller for my gaming tastes. I play
racing games as much as any genre, and there is simply no debate that
the Xbox controller is the best of the bunch here with its huge
analogue triggers (without going into steering wheels or those obscure
PS1 jogcon/negcon controllers or anything). The S controller is a nice
scaled down version for beat em ups, but I prefer the bigger one for
comfort. Other system's controllers have their perks too - 4 shoulder
buttons on the PS2 pad is very nice for some games, and the gamecube's
unorthodox button layout is really quite intuitive for many games
(though that tiny d-pad has reduced me to tears!) - but all in all the
palm filling original Xbox pad gets my vote. The long cables and cable
release system are just icing on the cake - the length of wires on some
other systems (cough dreamcast, gamecube cough) is just a farse to
be honest, might as well just put the buttons on the bloody console
itself :biggrin:

I get the name change for Wanda and Colossus - its really not a name
particularly suited to western markets. Wanda is a, albeit rare, female
name, and doesn't really suit a male protagonist. "Shadow" on the other
hand is a somewhat cool word that is never going to stop people looking
at a game like Wanda might, but may pull others in just by sounding
cool.

Amped 2's tweaked controls certainly do take some getting used to and
they also put off a couple of my amped loving friends, but due to the
added "style" system it was really a necessity. The analogue sticks and
triggers are put to more gentle use than I've seen in any other game in
Amped 2 - if you make smooth movements and don't go to the extremes you
rack up mega points in style bonuses.

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Sega has always had short cables. At least they're not as short as the Genesis. Christ, What are those? MAYBE 3 ft.

I've never had an issue with the length of Game Cube controllers. They're long enough for me. I think they made the DPad tiny to discourage it's use in games (from the developer end, maybe?)

I really, don't like the size of Xbox controller. The DreamCast was too big too, but at least all the buttons were in reach. But, I'm sure it's suited.

I think the PS2 controller (specifically, because it has pressure sensitivity) is really good for action/adventure type games. The GC controller is just ... really nice. I remember the first time I saw it, which was when I first hooked up the console, my words were, "What the f**k?". After playing for about five minutes I absolutely loved it. The only draw back is that it's such a unique design that the game really has to keep it in mind. Which is why I wouldn't really buy Multi-Platform games for my GC.

However, I think my favorite system is still the Dreamcast. It's just got great games. Or maybe the SNES. I <3 them both.

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Blame it on Microsoft, God does.

Everybody I know prefers the S controllers for xbox over the original one, which is fine by me because no one ever wants to play with my controller when we have linkups. Although I prefer the Playstation (not analogue) controller over any others for fighting games.

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id have to say my all time fav controler has to be the 64, but the game cube was in close second

wait... keyboard/mouse is way better

i prefer playstation becosue i'm used to that, but i love my mosue + keyboard hehee, i'd marry them if i could!

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Hell, is an half-filled auditorium

I hate the X-Box S-controllers. Sure, the button placement is more
logical, but it's hellishly small. Now the regular gigantic X-Box
controllers... I love 'em! It's like holding a Dreamcast in your hands;
a real man's controller, baby. :smile:

I have fairly big hands, but I don't like the stretching feeling...
like I was grasping a football. I like having a relaxed grip.

Keep your mind out of the gutter please.

i actually did enjoy the size of the x-box controller

i mean when i saw i was like DAMN!!! how am i supposed to get my hands on that thing

but after i used i actually liked it over the smaller ones

Well, since I'll be developing games for playstation.... I guess I have to choose PS3. In reality, though, I will most probably buy all 3 systems. I'm a whore.

Developing games for the playstation? Did you do it for the playstation 2? I heard it was a bitch with the 4 cpu's.

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Just finishing up a project for playstation2, at Insomniac games (Ratchet:Deadlocked). I'm not abliged to spill the beans on any future projects, but we will obviously be sticking with Sony and playstation.

As for the technical aspects of development, I am fairly clueless. I do know that our engine programmers work all kinds of magic with the PS2. It's amazing what kind of power can be squeezed out of that system. Just take a look at our previous games for PS2, (Ratchet and Clank, Ratchet and clank: Going Commando, Ratchet and Clank: Up your Arsenal), IMO all very beautiful games.

I'm sure it will be a while before the true power of next gen consoles will be realized. Everything I have heard, makes me think that only the best of the best will be able to fully utilize the multiprocessors.