Best...Keyboard...EVER!

Best...Keyboard...EVER!

Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by French Toast on Mon Jul 18th 2005 at 4:11am
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Optimus is the best keyboard ever. And it's such a brilliant
idea. While only a prototype now, hopefully will get released
soon. They said it will be approximately 200-300 USD.

Man, that's sweet!
Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by wil5on on Mon Jul 18th 2005 at 4:18am
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Whoa. Awesome.
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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by Orpheus on Mon Jul 18th 2005 at 4:20am
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Am I seeing this correctly? It displays the hotkeys of any given program you are using ATM?

That would be unique to say the least..

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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by Dark_Kilauea on Mon Jul 18th 2005 at 4:23am
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I have to get this, this is awsome. Imagine it's many uses with hammer...

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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by French Toast on Mon Jul 18th 2005 at 4:26am
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Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, by looking at the photoshop
setup. You have your texture application button, entity button,
geez all kinds of crap. If this goes on the market I will have to
guilt my dad into getting me one.
Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by Senshi on Mon Jul 18th 2005 at 4:38am
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OMG, that is <span style="color: red;">the best idea ever

I really want one, i'm gonna have to start saving some cash for when they release that baby on the market.

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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by Agent Smith on Mon Jul 18th 2005 at 4:44am
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It would be even cooller if they could incorporate a screensaver for
the keyboard, so they could all work at once to display changing images
and patterns. Very cool.
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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by Nickelplate on Mon Jul 18th 2005 at 5:01am
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I can't wait 'til some 14-year-old makes a virus that changes every key to display any of 1 million random gay porn images. Plus, the bastards will probably charge you a monthly subsriction fee: everyone else is nowadays. that or they will want to install a sweet program that stays in the corner of your screen by the clock and takes up 256 MB of RAM. (like steam)

other than that it would be nice to be able to spell out curse words on other ppl's keyboards somehow.
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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by DrGlass on Mon Jul 18th 2005 at 5:04am
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Open source too, think of the cool games just the keyboard could support. Like memory or word serch.
Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by Nickelplate on Mon Jul 18th 2005 at 5:10am
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DrGlass said:
Open source too, think of the cool games just the keyboard could support. Like memory or word serch.
YOU'RE A GENIUS!! Just think, my computer will FINALLY have the great games i enjoy from my cell phone!! Maybe someday, I'll be able to send text messages across the country. But I would want to have a keypad to spell it out painstakingly like on my Nokia.

For programmers, you could have it display the Hex or Binary instead of the letter, i dunno HOW that'd help, but it may.

I personally just want a frickin' LCD monitor.
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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by Windows 98 on Mon Jul 18th 2005 at 5:13am
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too bad iheard about the keyboard like 2-3 weeks ago. it was posted on
the myg0t forums a long time ago. its just a concept so i didnt post
it. i thought about posting it though :-/
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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by Orpheus on Mon Jul 18th 2005 at 7:58am
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<DIV class=quote>
<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting Dark_Kilauea</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>Imagine it's many uses with hammer...

</DIV></DIV>

Oh yeah showing us our ignorance, everyone will be saying... "WTF? WHAT DOES THAT KEY DO?" and "DAMMMMMIT, I NEVER KNEW ABOUT THAT" :lol:

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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by Crapceeper on Mon Jul 18th 2005 at 8:09am
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I might be wrong but I think this keyboard won't actually 'scan' applications for hotkeys but the user needs to set up all the hotkeys for the application. And for this the user needs to know the hotkeys. It certainly will come with pre-defined hotkeys for major programmes - but for hammer? I shrug my shoulders on that.
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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by Andrei on Mon Jul 18th 2005 at 9:41am
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Looks cool. Lazy people (like me, of course) will love it :biggrin: .
Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by Dred_furst on Mon Jul 18th 2005 at 12:05pm
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I can see some great implementations with steam coming up if it
operates in the fashion im thinking of, if it changes for each active
application, that would be awesome, just thing, you can start steam,
load half life and connect to the server of your choice by hitting 3-4
buttons :biggrin: then theres in-game! you could have stuff for custom plugins
and things, like slap and such

and hammer! god that would be awesome, Gimmie an light_spot please! Ping! There we go! lets put that over there!

and the photoshop layout looks good,

ooh, bets on someone modding the software so it uses it as a display >.>

that and the possibilities with winamp, that would be awesome :razz: pass the VIS to the keyboard to look cool :biggrin:
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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by Natus on Mon Jul 18th 2005 at 12:29pm
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pure awesomeness, i gotta get myself oe of these :biggrin:
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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by SaintGreg on Mon Jul 18th 2005 at 1:03pm
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Thats really cool, but if it really is 200 dollars, thats a bit excessive as a replacement for a 5 dollar piece of equipment.
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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by Andrei on Mon Jul 18th 2005 at 1:34pm
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200$ ? You'd have to be a fool to give 200$ just to save 2 mouse clicks IMHO. A fool or beyond lazy.
Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by satchmo on Mon Jul 18th 2005 at 3:46pm
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For me at least, the tactile feeling of the keys is the most important aspect for a keyboard. I am very picky about the feel of the keys. Once, I bought seven keyboards at the same time so I can test them out properly (before returning six of them later).

I memorized the keys already, so I really have no need for the keyboard to remind me of which key does what. Besides, I am a touch-typist, so I never look at the keyboard anyway.

It's a smart concept though. But the ultimate keyboard would be a thin touch-sensitive pad that you can fold up to the size of a pea and carry it wherever you go.
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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by French Toast on Mon Jul 18th 2005 at 4:08pm
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They have one like that. It's just the rubber pad found inside
the keyboard, with the letters/numbers/etc. on it, and you can roll it
up and take it anywhere.
Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by satchmo on Mon Jul 18th 2005 at 5:45pm
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I am actually shopping for a wireless keyboard/mouse combo for my wife. I searched newegg but found lots of keyboard with various prices, but they all seem to offer the same specs.

Is there any reason for paying more for some of them? I can't figure it out (other than some of them are OEM packaged). Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by rival on Mon Jul 18th 2005 at 7:45pm
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id get that keyboard just to impress people who see it.
Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by im.thatoneguy on Mon Jul 18th 2005 at 8:28pm
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The only problem I see with that keyboard is that they didn't a bump on the F and J keys.

I need my bumps so that I don't have to ever look down. I always get confused on macs because their bump is on the D and K. But that thing has no bumps at all.
Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by Crapceeper on Mon Jul 18th 2005 at 9:13pm
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Is there any reason for paying more for some of them?
I have a very cheap keyboard. I was forced to use it for a couple of months. I use a Logitech keyboard, usually. Although its kinda posh I somehow got used to it. It is very accurate and defined when it comes to the pressure you need to press a key or the distance between the keys. It was hard for me to use this cheap keyboard, because the keys are set up in a different distance from another. Also the activation of a key is very strange. If I touch a key by accident it considers it self actually pressed. If I touch it with the intention to press the button it considers itself not pressed. This behaviour really pisses me off.

So my advice would be: Look for a keyboard in the middle field. So you have a reliable keyboard but no posh hardware. This very cheap keyboard is just about to break. It's just cheap an crappy.
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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by satchmo on Mon Jul 18th 2005 at 9:36pm
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All the ones I am considering are Logitech keyboards, but the prices range from $24 to $153! I see no reason for buying the more expensive models, but I must be missing something.

Why would anyone pay for the expensive stuff (besides a few extra keys and plugs for headphones)?
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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by French Toast on Mon Jul 18th 2005 at 10:20pm
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Frequently Answered Answers about the Optimus keyboard

It's in initial stage of production

We hope it will be released in 2006

It will cost less than a good mobile phone

It will be real

It will be OS-independent (at least it can work in some default state with any OS)

It will support any language or layout

Moscow is the capital of Russia

Each key could be programmed to produce any sequence

It will be an open-source keyboard, SDK will be available

Some day it will be split ('ergonomic')

It will most likely use OLED technology (e-paper is sooo slow)

Our studio is located two blocks from the Kremlin

It will feature a key-saver

Keys will use animation when needed

It has numeric keypad because we love it

There's no snow in Moscow during Summer

It will be available worldwide (why not?)

OEM will be possible (why not?)

Contact us for hi-res images, or interview inquires

We want to thank everyone for the support. Stay tuned for our next projects
Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by Dark_Kilauea on Mon Jul 18th 2005 at 11:00pm
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I saw, the things about moscow were a little funny

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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by Crono on Mon Jul 18th 2005 at 11:25pm
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You all need to be shot.
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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by DrGlass on Tue Jul 19th 2005 at 4:09am
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You all need to be shot.
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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by Crono on Tue Jul 19th 2005 at 6:30am
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No.

I saw this awhile ago and it's one of the most retarded ideas EVER. The only thing that makes the situation worse is that everyone seems to want one ... a $100 keyboard ...
It's this type of thing that really pisses me off about people in general. It's the same with people who "pimp" out their cars by removing the door handles and adding electronic door openers. Way to go jack ass. Sure, it looks cool and the idea sounds cool, but it's a very nonfunctional product.

I bet you'd all like to have a sheet of glass for a monitor too.
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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by Crapceeper on Tue Jul 19th 2005 at 7:45am
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Why would anyone pay for the expensive stuff (besides a few extra keys and plugs for headphones)?
I guess it's because of the brand's name, design and a little bit of the quality. I think a cheap logitech keyboard would be fine anyways.
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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by French Toast on Tue Jul 19th 2005 at 2:42pm
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I don't think this is a stupid idea, I think it's a brilliant
idea. A stupid keyboard are the new ones with fingerprint
scanners.
Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by Myrk- on Tue Jul 19th 2005 at 3:06pm
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Dunno if anyone has said any of this yet-

Do you guys realise its just an idea? It'll be 10 years or so till its on the shelves and even then we will be using something else, like those sony pads. Plus its a MAC product = Evil. Also you'd have to tell the program the hotkeys, the likelyness of it knowing them is slim.
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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by ReNo on Tue Jul 19th 2005 at 3:11pm
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How is it a mac product myrk? Its made by some independent designers
and works on any platform...or at least will if they make it. They are
planning to have it available in 2006 - I think everybody knows its
just a concept thing for the time being. You shouldn't need to do
anything to your programs - just tell the keyboard to go into "hammer
mode" or "half-life 2 deathmatch mode", and then you can set those
modes so that all the buttons do whatever actions (eg. make e =
ctrl-g). I'm only speculating of course, but there are plenty of
programmable keyboards out there already that do that sort of thing.
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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by fishy on Tue Jul 19th 2005 at 3:28pm
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Crono said:
I bet you'd all like to have a sheet of glass for a monitor too.
oh oh oh, i want one, gimme a link, gimme a link...... :dorky:
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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by rival on Tue Jul 19th 2005 at 6:22pm
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fishy said:
<DIV class=quote>
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<DIV class=quotetext>I bet you'd all like to have a sheet of glass for a monitor too.
oh oh oh, i want one, gimme a link, gimme a link...... :dorky: </div></div>

ooooo holohgraphic screens!
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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by im.thatoneguy on Tue Jul 19th 2005 at 8:39pm
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Quick question: When was the last time someone looked at their keyboard? Anybody? You can already buy program specific keyboard covers and or keyboards. My old school had an Avid keyboard with all the hotkeys printed on it and colorcoded etc. I can't wait until they're a reasonable price, but seriously... when was the last time you looked at your keyboard?
Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by fishy on Tue Jul 19th 2005 at 8:46pm
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im.thatoneguy said:
Quick question: When was the last time someone looked at their keyboard? Anybody?
i'm looking at mine right now, otherwise this post would read a whole lot different......
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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by Dark_Kilauea on Tue Jul 19th 2005 at 9:02pm
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Same here...

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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by French Toast on Tue Jul 19th 2005 at 9:34pm
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I'm looking at mine tryingto get the chocolate sauce out to unstick the arrow keys. :smile:
Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by Myrk- on Tue Jul 19th 2005 at 10:41pm
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The mac symbols all over the keys kinda gave it away Reno...
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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by wil5on on Wed Jul 20th 2005 at 12:50am
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Thats because its in mac mode myrk... plug it into a windows machine and those keys become alt and windows, at least thats what they seem to be saying.
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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by DrGlass on Wed Jul 20th 2005 at 3:26am
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@Crono, I dont think its really a problem if people want flashy stuff.

I have a problem when the popular "need" for "pimpin' s**t" turns
everything into flashy/crappy stuff. Like cell phones, sure all
those neat features are nice, but when I ask for a phone with a
dot-matrix screen, contact list, and one game (snake) I cant get that,
I have to get a web/camera phone with 3,000 ring tones...
Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by Windows 98 on Wed Jul 20th 2005 at 3:30am
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@Crono, I dont think its really a problem if people want flashy stuff.

I have a problem when the popular "need" for "pimpin' s**t" turns
everything into flashy/crappy stuff. Like cell phones, sure all
those neat features are nice, but when I ask for a phone with a
dot-matrix screen, contact list, and one game (snake) I cant get that,
I have to get a web/camera phone with 3,000 ring tones...
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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by DrGlass on Wed Jul 20th 2005 at 4:55am
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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by Windows 98 on Wed Jul 20th 2005 at 5:05am
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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by Myrk- on Wed Jul 20th 2005 at 9:47am
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Anyone know how much over 120 keys with screens on them is gunna cost? I think for the sake of using your memory, a normal keyboard is fine. And tbh I never look at my keyboard anyway.
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Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by French Toast on Wed Jul 20th 2005 at 1:47pm
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I think the looking at your keyboard isn't much of an argument.
The only reason you don't look at your keyboard is because you have no
reason too, you've memorized every key. But if you can make a
custom keyboard for any application, you're going to be looking at and
using your keyboard differently.

Not sure if I got my point across...
Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by DrGlass on Wed Jul 20th 2005 at 3:53pm
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I dont know, in photoshop for instance if I dont know a short cut key,
I would rather keep my eyes on the screen then look down and find a
button on my key pad.

then once you memorize your key short cuts you never look at them again.

It would be usefull for codeing but again, once you know what each key does there is not point to look down at it.
Re: Best...Keyboard...EVER! Posted by ReNo on Wed Jul 20th 2005 at 5:01pm
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I don't really see much use in it for programming - you program in
ASCII, so a standard key layout is all you could really want I'd have
thought?
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