Put less posts in per page under your control panel thing. Shouldn't have to search the database as much.

Also, of course other people accessing the site use up bandwidth. If that's the cause for your specific slowdown ... I doubt it.

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I don't know if this is a bug or not, but I posted a map and it didn't
show up on the front page. I was having connection problems at the
time, so that may be the cause of it.

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When you post rapidly twice in a row, instead of adding your new post
to the previous one, it gives you an error and you lose what you've
tried to add. You have to manually go back and edit your most
recent post if you want to add something.

Also, (this was already brought up) the random user search isn't working for me.

I use firefox.

I've noticed in all of Hugh's posts, the right-hand side of the layout gets messed up. Only for that post, and only for Hugh. Has anyone else noticed this? Is it your fault, Hugh? Or something else?

I can get a screenshot if noone else notices this. I'm using IE/XP.

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• My yr11 Economics teacher

I request that full sized image code be disabled in favor of the 56k users. Keeping the thumbnail code and link code active will not harm anyone nor discriminate against anyone who wishes to post screenshots. If people post a generous sized thumbnail, you can see whats going on in the screen anyway.

At the lowest setting, you can still have 10 replies per page. If each person has a tiny 50k image posted that still adds up to a whopping 500k download just to view the page. And thats assuming that each person would be considerate enough to only post one and at 50k. It also assumes that each person posts screens, which is rarely the case but, 500k pages is not uncommon either.

The thumbnail code was created to assist others in the thread. It should be used more.

Disabling full sized screen use will harm no one and can only encourage even more screens posting.

Thanks for your time.

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I've noticed in all of Hugh's posts, the right-hand side of the layout gets messed up. Only for that post, and only for Hugh. Has anyone else noticed this? Is it your fault, Hugh? Or something else?
I can get a screen-shot if no one else notices this. I'm using IE/XP.

Yeah. I was wondering why it was doing that. I'm running Mozilla (1.7).

UD, the thumbnail code downloads the full image then makes it smaller ... in other words it wont be faster for you to download. The only way it'd get smaller is if either, people stopped posting enormous file sized pictures or if there was some code that upon uploading an image it would scale it and re-save it. Now, that wouldn't work for images in the threads. However, there, you could easily replace the image with a site produced image (however, you'd have to write it so it only does it once and not every time someone views the page). There's one for bitmap images. There should be one for anything over 150KB or something.

Or, UD, you could just eliminate images from your browser :razz: You're like the only person here on 56K, at least the only one that's "commenting" constantly on how everything runs for you.

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Crono said:
Or, UD, you could just eliminate images from your browser :razz:

You're like the only person here on 56K, at least the only one that's "commenting" constantly on how everything runs for you.

1) How? and will it disable everything? I would like to see the decent sized images.
2) Perhaps I am only the newest and subsequently the most recent to comment or the others gave up so long ago that you no longer remember them?

Poor them.

I seem to recall a poll that clearly stated that there were quite a few 56k users.

You know what I would like?, there used to be a program you could use to simulate 56k to test your newly created web pages to see how well/optimized you were in creating the pages. In other words, were they user friendly. I wish each of the people who failed to think before posting would have to use it for a day.

Well, maybe I will waste my Christmas wish this year on that. :sad:

Seriously though, if the thumbnail code is that defective it needs reworked. My thumbs are always less than 7-10k when I make web pages.

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My point was, they deal with it.

You can turn images off in firefox ... I don't know how in IE, I'm sure there's some way. And it's pretty easy to do, so you could turn them off when you come here or other high-bandwidth sites then turn them back on when you're done. Takes a second or two to do.

You don't need a program to slow your self down to see the effects for a 56k user. Just make sure all the information on one page doesn't go past a certain size: easy as that.

There's plenty of ways to get around all this. I think, honestly, there should be a 56K theme on the site, that replaced thread posted images into links and stuff like that. If there's already one of those ... use that.

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Nothing I have found on this site removes an image thats been posted externally (or internally for that matter). You can edit the themes, yes (themes are the permanent images and such). You cannot alter anyones discourteousness where images are concerned.

posted by Crono

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<DIV style="BORDER-RIGHT: red 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: red 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: red 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: red 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #151515">My point was, they deal with it.

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Its sad when you think, if enough people do something wrong, less and less people view it as such until eventually it becomes right.

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I don't think Crono meant that you could disable images via SP
settings, but rather through your browser preferences (if you were
running Firefox).

Also, Hugh's posts are wacky for me too. I'm running Firefox v. 1.0.7

Yeah, in fact I said

Me said:
You can turn images off in firefox ... I don't know how in IE, I'm sure there's some way.

I never said you are wrong (you seem to have an issue with that term), I said you are in the minority.

When there is a system, you cater to the majority of people. It's your choice to come here, so you have to deal with it. By deal with it: you could change to another browser which allows you to block things. Don't make it Lep's fault or something like that.

Now that I think about it, in mozilla and firefox, probably netscape too, there are options to make it such that EXTERNAL images, the images that are not located on the server you're browsing, can be blocked. So stop being a baby, change your browser and be happy. :razz:

Visit http://mozilla.org

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You know Crono, I am beginning to believe that either you are incapable of following a conversation, or you deliberately make me out to be at odds with you. This thread is "Site Suggestions and Bugs" I am not making an unreasonable suggestion for starters and secondly, you are setting yourself up as judge and jury in lieu of Lep being absent. What makes you think that he might not already have this idea in mind but is awaiting time enough to implement it to his satisfaction?

I believe that he has it within his abilities to accomplish my suggestion without harming anyone. So the question is, why are you not assisting me when you can instead of making it sound as if I am crying needlessly? Why does there have to be a right and a wrong? Why not two rights?

You remind me of so much of the youth. Not just todays youth, but all youth. You have two ideas in mind. Where you are, and where you will be after you have spoken. If anyone happens to mention anything that doesn't fall within your prescribed path you either fail to acknowledge its been said, or you change it into an opposing viewpoint to be argued over.

Go back. re-read my suggestion, because thats all it was and see if it doesn't sound like a suggestion the second time. If you still feel its an unreasonable request then we can take it to the next level. (preferably in another forum as this one loads like molasses on a cold day)

I do appreciate your help when you give it, but if the price for that help is to tolerate your negativity in all other times you are asking to high a price.

Please discourage yourself from standing in opposition so often.

I also request that you do not attempt to pawn this off as my not comprehending you in some way. Believe me, I understand what I mean, perfectly.

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Well, until changes are made to the code of the site, you might want to
check out Firefox. It might help you deal with the load times
until Leperous gets around to responding to your suggestion.

Addicted to Morphine said:
Well, until changes are made to the code of the site, you might want to check out Firefox. It might help you deal with the load times until Leperous gets around to responding to your suggestion.

See, this is a positive reply. I do not respond well to projected negativity very well.

I was not opposed to switching browsers. I did however ask if it would really solve my problem? I do not want to be placed in a position to where I am unaware that something is going on because an image is removed. Will it replace it with something identifiable as "Image removed here"

Seems to me that Crono was convinced that a simple browser switch was a cure to all my woes without even bothering to substantiate it with "Yes, I tried it and it seems to fit your need Underdog"

Hell, the last time I asked him for a spell checker for firefox I cam out of it with a bad taste in my mouth and I switched back to IE. At least it was familiar. I am not saying that he was wrong. There probably is a spell checker but I was either to stupid to locate it or worse, I was just to stupid.

Anyway, I am tired of others projecting their negativity upon me because something I said didn't fit their viewpoint.

I would have rather read, "Good suggestion Underdog but, until Leperus reappears we all need to just understand that some people just don't care if you have issues."

I would have not liked the notion, but at least I would have been aware that someone had a bit of sympathy. Even if sympathy was all there was in the end.

If firefox will fit my needs, and someone can help me adjust it, problem solved.

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I just deselected the "Load Images" option and the Recently Watched thread loaded much faster.

Under Options go to Web Features and it's right there. See? (31kb) http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/88/ffoption2up.jpg

Here's what the recently watched thread looks like without images (170kb): http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/552/rw3pl.jpg

CNN.com was really confusing without images, but the Snarkpit looked
fine. And I think what you should do is just use FF with images
disabled to browse the Snarkpit (and other slow loading sites you
frequent), and use IE for all your other low-intensity browsing needs.

Also, if you Tick "for the originating web site only" then no images
posted in the forum itself will be loaded. Which may be all you
need. For example, the ^_^ thread becomes much less offensive.

Might I ask, why do you have a side scroll?

OK, I will check. Perhaps now I can look at the maps forum again.

[edit] editing seems a bit
harder now but I think this may serve. Images are gone but there is an
icon that shows where one used to be. I wonder, what an outside link
looks like.

Thanks a bunch.

[edit2] Sadly, even if I want to see an image I cannot with them turned off. Even if I click a link.

I hope Leperus can impliment some compromise.

Thanks again, the site is much faster now.

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Oh I had a side scroll because I run on 1600x1200 resolution so I
resized the window when I took the screen grab so you wouldn't have to
look at a ginormous image just to get a feel for what the site looked
like without images.

As for being unable to see any images: it's not an ideal solution, but
maybe you can open up links to images you want to see with IE.

Keep your bulls**t to your self and realize when someone is helping you. After all, my suggestion is what you're using now.

I even commented that until there is something accomidating on the SP for your connection speed this is a viable alternative. Nothing about right or wrong ... nothing about you agreeing with me or not. I just let you know there was an alternative for your situation.

Pretty much your entire retort was bulls**t and I'm ignoring it since you took my advice anyway.

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The price just went to high. :sad:

Until further notice I would appriceate that you do not try to "help"
me anymore. I do not think you could stand being more helpful than you
already have been. You are smart about some things but, your people
skills suck.

Again, you failed to follow the discussion. I tried it, but it still fails to give the results that I desire, as per edit2.

Thanks but no thanks. Personally, even if you can behave, I am not sure I could stand more assistance of this type.

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Underdog said:
2) Perhaps I am only the newest and subsequently the most recent to comment or the others gave up so long ago that you no longer remember them?

Poor them.

aww, poor Orph.

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Oh lord, I downloaded FF 1.5 and now the reply box has blank text (I can see it if I highlight but otherwise it's invisible) Everything else seems fine...but it also buggers my replies and doesn't parse any of the code.

Ew, sounds like time for a temporary FF version rollback. I don't know when Lep will be around to look into that.

I've been using 1.5 for a while (since the first release candidate), and get the same bug. It also adds a line linking a stylesheet and the closing head tag to the end of the post.

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There needs to be a pop culture tab.

I mean there are so many "Recomeneded [bla]" threads that are extremely
long to look through. If there was a Pop Culture tab, we'd be
able to post individual threads, or thread blocks about several
recomendations or game perceptions.

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How about the ability to paste something into the "message body" box? It's real annoying having to hand-write out a url...

Just a quick thing: I'm using FireFox. Mentioned that just
to make sure this isn't a problem with Firefox in particular -- if it
is, do tell me :smile:

Paste works for me in IE.http://www.snarkpit.net/forums.php?forum=1&topic=1481&findpost=newest#box

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• My yr11 Economics teacher

SnarkPower made this page in 21.017 seconds

Erh .. database optimization anyone ?
The pit website is so damn slow for me these days.

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SnarkPower made this page in 55.729 seconds

Yeah it's chugging a bit for me too.

SnarkPower made this page in 45.92 seconds .. its only with the longer threads , its gotten to the point where i can't really even read most the Recently threads. i just kinda stick to the art section :razz:

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www.arclan.net

I don't know if this is the place to suggest this, but I believe it is. Let me know if it is not.

I enjoy this site over some other hl2 sites because there's less duplication and people are more strongly encouraged to search the forums/tuts before they ask a question.

One thing that would be nice to have is if there was an index page of topics with relevant posts/tutorials. I know keeping that up would be a pain, but if it was possible to enter key words into a field when posting a response, this could be automated somewhat. Of course, it would take a web programmer to set up, but I could see it reducing some of the other posts when people can't find an answer with search.

In otherwords, a person may mention "displacement" when describing his WIP in a post that really isn't relavent in a search where someone is trying to research a displacement issue. But if I or someone was posting an answer that is considered useful, an index field that would link the post to an index on the topic of "displacements".

There could also be another link in the forum section along with "reply" or "quote" called "index" that a member could recommend a persons post for an index link.

I think something like this would be very beneficial.

I'm afraid that the site owner and guy who incorporates any suggestions
that require behind the scenes tinkering is rarely around these days,
so your suggestion isn't likely to be implemented for a while at least,
but I like the idea. I think the system that exists does differentiate
between editing problem related posts and other posts such as WIP maps
as is (I barely ever use the search myself to be honest, so I don't
actually know!), but probably not to the extent you are meaning.
Probably something for Lep to keep in mind for whatever next version of
the snarkpit he may or may not be planning :smile:

I actually have me own suggestion that could or could not require Lep,
depending on how it is implemented. I visit mapcore a lot these days
and they have a thread over there where people can post random
screenshots of WIP maps that they don't quite feel justify having their
own thread. I think it's a great thing to have, and I myself sometimes
post stuff in there and not here at the snarkpit simply because here
requires making a map profile and the like. I sometimes find myself
tinkering in hammer with no intention of ever using what I'm building
in a full map, but that doesn't mean the scene itself isn't something
I'd like feedback on or just like to show off with a bit :wink: I think
such a thread would encourage people to throw up screenshots on a whim,
and possibly get more people showing work at the early stages of a map
which many of us never get past. I would have made it a sticky thread
in the maps forum but I can't do that without associating it with one
of my own levels, which isn't ideal, so the options are either to make
a new forum for it (not such a good idea IMO), or just make it a sticky
in the general banter or art forums.

What do you guys think?

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ReNo said:
What do you guys think?

I smell another highly successful "Recently" thread in the making.

"Recently made"
"Recently Mapped"
"Recently Created"
"Recently Achieved"
Recently ?????"

Whatever title suggest your goal Duncan. :biggrin:

Tis a fair idea. It could encourage would be mappers to new concepts without the need to post a specific thread. I would view it as a sort of prefab section perhaps.

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Well I made a map in my profile and linked a thread to it in the maps
section, so it's ready for use. Just be sure not to think the map in my
profile is a proper map - it is a workaround so we can have a thread in
the right forum that anybody can get posting in.

http://www.snarkpit.net/forums.php?forum=2&topic=6420&0

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Awesome. I should have spoken up earlier. I'm glad you got
it set up. I find the only mapcore thread I visit is the WIP
thread because its so varied and often updated, and I'm glad now we
have one too :smile:

Hey anone got any suggestions on how to fix the invisible words in post thing?<html><head><link rel="stylesheet" href="themes/standard.css" type="text/css"></head><bod

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wtf ^

Spartan said:
Hey anone got any suggestions on how to fix the invisible words in post thing?<html><head><link rel="stylesheet" href="themes/standard.css" type="text/css"></head><bod

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wtf ^

Use IE..??

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Hey anone got any suggestions on how to fix the invisible words
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href="themes/standard.css" type="text/css"></head><bod

omfggin=2>

wtf ^

Someone said you have to disable javascript posting? I don't know
exactly but there IS a solution. Someone want to help me out?

Thats the one - go into your control panel, then preferences, and turn off java features or something. FF1.5 seems to have problems with it for some reason.

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Yeah, I just got home and have the same problem in FF 1.5.

It wasn't originally clear to me but like ReNo said you have to go into the SnarkPit Control Panel, then Preferences, and tick the box to minimalize the amount of Java features. I originally thought I had to change something in my FF settings, but no... just the SnarkPit ones.

Suggestion/Request:

New members should receive a double message before they can replay asking them specifically if they have read all the rules and are familiar with the place enough to post. This message should remain for at least the first 5 or 10 postings.

The message should be just annoying enough to encourage, yet not so annoying to discourage. It should clearly state that they will be stigmatized for at least a month if they dare to post in the wrong place.

The process would be: "New Topic>Warning Message>Warning Message>Submit"

or

"New Reply>Warning Message>Warning message>Submit"

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Personally I think that is too much, and would discourage people. I would agree with you if we were being inundated with wrongly categorised posts, but as it stands the number we get is hardly unacceptable.

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Yeah well. I just woke up from a nap and I am bitchy.

Seriously though, this thread is 1,640+ replies long. When was the last time anyone could expect an adjustment in the bug/suggestions?

I was mostly ranting.

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I don't know if this is futile since Lep isn't around... but I think it
would be great if it listed who you were quoting. As it stands I
have to go back and edit my post to show who I was trying to quote.

Addicted to Morphine said:
I don't know if this is futile since Lep isn't around... but I think it would be great if it listed who you were quoting. As it stands I have to go back and edit my post to show who I was trying to quote.

Probably because you are using an inferior browser. IE does it just fine.

I am betting you are using that other browser that everyone cries about all the time.

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Orpheus said:
Probably because you are using an inferior browser.

Actually I'm using Firefox. :biggrin:

So far -- this quoting problem is the
only one I've had. Besides, all the benefits FF has over IE
outweigh the one bug that hopefully Lep can take care of.

Yeah I'm fairly sure that IE does automatically add the name of the poster to the quote, but in FF you have to do it manually I'm afraid. Well worth putting up with Snarkpit's little FF quirks for the other benefits though :razz:

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I surf very little these days (wonder why?)

anyway, I do not really have an opinion about which browser is best. I do however notice that nobody who uses IE ever complains, yet Firefox is always having issues.

Now, I realize, cause I am not stupid, that its as simple as coding the site for FF, but I have to ask you... If you know that FF has issues, and Lep isn't likely to put the issue on the top of the list of things to fix, why don't you load IE for only Snarkpit and stop fussing?

You guys, in your own way are at least as anal about things as I where it comes to your preferences. I swear that you'd all rather cry about Snarkpits inability to use FF than switch for a few minutes to IE.

I would be almost willing to bet that none of you would, given the chance you're all so hard headed.

As near as I can ascertain from you all, there is no benefit as far as using FF here, so why bother at all.

Next time you, or one of you tells me to get over my image thing, remember FF and I bet... You'll still tell me to get over my thing. :razz:

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Tabbed browsing makes it so much easier for me to browse the forums... I couldn't give it up.

I throw every unread thread into a tab and by the time I'm finished
reading the first thread the rest are all loaded and waiting for me to
get to them.

Oh, I understand there must be perks the way everyone talks about it but, I cannot count how many times someone has bellyached about its incompatibility with Snarkpits code.

Not quite as often as I cry about screens, but anyone can just say "Thats just Orph, for get him"

Its a bit harder to listen to a few dozen people who have it within their power to alter the outcome. I cannot change an image size, but you can load another browser for a few.

Anyway.. I wish Snarkpit was more compliant with FF but its not likely to happen soonish so... Use IE and be unhappy with it but able to post without any problems.

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