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to love, and be loved

Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Naklajat on Sat Aug 12th 2006 at 4:19am
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That's my new CSS spray.

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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by FatStrings on Sat Aug 12th 2006 at 4:41am
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asterix_vader said:
it's not fun
it's not healthy
it's not good
it's not awesome
it's not cool
it's just really bad...

to be drunk.
mostly wrong:
it is fun
not to terrible on your body
it's not bad either
awesome is in the eye of the beholder
who cares what's cool or not enjoy life
says society
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by DrGlass on Sat Aug 12th 2006 at 5:26pm
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right and wrong are all very relative.
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Pvt.Scythe on Sat Aug 12th 2006 at 7:32pm
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right and wrong are all very relative.
So is everything else. :razz:
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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by WarloK on Mon Aug 14th 2006 at 12:21am
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This Thread pleases me. Because I LOVE BOOZE!!!

Vodka is the best, specially with coke, it tastes good and gets you pissed.

Buckfast is also amazing, although it is a ned drink

Oh how I love my dearest alcohol, with it's sweet yummy goodness.

I like it when i'm unconsious on the ground with a bottle of Jager next to me.

I aint a drunk XDtype="text/css"></head><body topmargin=2 leftmargin=2>
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Gwil on Mon Aug 14th 2006 at 12:30am
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I ain't a drunk - "javascript errors everywhere" - i'm beginning to
doubt this? :razz: Also, Jagermeister is reserved for sickos only. Alcohol
is either a dependency or a light enjoyance. Where Jager/Goldschlager
fits into that, I am not entirely sure :smile:
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by asterix_vader on Mon Aug 14th 2006 at 12:31am
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FatStrings said:
<DIV class=quote>
<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting asterix_vader</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>it's not fun
it's not healthy
it's not good
it's not awesome
it's not cool
it's just really bad...

to be drunk.
mostly wrong:
it is fun
not to terrible on your body
it's not bad either
awesome is in the eye of the beholder
who cares what's cool or not enjoy life
says society</div></div>

hmm... wood!
rofl good response.........
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Nickelplate on Mon Aug 14th 2006 at 12:36am
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Jager is good.

Fatstrings is a drunk in denial.
I tried sniffing coke, but the ice cubes kept getting stuck in my nose.
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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by parakeet on Mon Aug 14th 2006 at 2:14am
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Drinking in smaller amounts is okay, but getting drunk is very bad for you. While Satchmo, being a good doctor, can tell you all the health reasons, I'm sure Asterix and I are quoting from more of a religious source. However, if you ever think that getting drunk is okay, you need to look at what happened to this girl when some dumb bass decided to have "fun" and be rebellious and go drinking and driving.
Funny Drinking Story (not really...)
I think nickels point is not to prod a soft point @frenchy but more to make you think about it. It can be VERY dangerous both physically , mentally and spiratually. I haven't read the thread.. but i'm sure this has been cleared up.

Drinking should be done in moderation. Not to spoil fun , but to prevent nonfun

as for issue two..
right and wrong are all very relative.
Ahh the ever defining view.... only problem with this is .. just because i believe an apple is a pear.. it still never ceases to be an apple. Just because i believe evil is good , evil never ceases to be evil.

I'm sure a true devoter of evil , would very much disagree with you and it would be insanity to believe that there are no constants. Just because man has trouble viewing the difference between good and evil , doesn't mean the lines are actually blurred.. Just like how a propeller has 2 blades , but it really looks like one circle , if we slow things down and really observe things.. It has 2 blades, but we can only see one.

There is hatred and there is love , humans are not capable of pure indifference. It is always partially one way or another.

Hatred is evil , Love is good.

Hatred of evil things (not people , because nobody is completly evil) is a double negative and thus good
    • , + +
it's math :razz: , i should do an essay on this XP.
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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by DrGlass on Mon Aug 14th 2006 at 3:55am
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Hatred is evil , Love is good.
Life isn't black and white. It isn't math, it isn't something you can boil down and labeled.

Do you really think that drinking is "evil" because it really is THAT bad, or because many of us are predisposed to that idea? Would it be evil if drinking was thought to be next to godliness? Society defines good and bad. Would saturated fat be bad if people under 21 weren't allowed to buy it?

People do "bad" things, not alcohol. It is just an excuse. "oh I was drunk" no sorry, YOU DID WHAT YOU DID, you got too drunk and made bad choices.

What if 9 out of 10 people who drove red cars killed 5 year olds, who do you blame? The red cars?

What if you hate people who hate evil? - - -? what about good people who have to do something evil to get something good done?
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by FatStrings on Mon Aug 14th 2006 at 5:00am
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true good and bad aren't black and white, they are ideas and ideas tent to vary person to person, i am not a drunk in denial (not sure if you know this but firefox tends to react wierd to the coding on the pic and that code tends to end up at the end of every message by one using it gwil)

and your wrong warlok, the best drink would be dos equis or shiners, oh wait, that's an countering it

and nickle *YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW

*read as if yelled at a high rate of spead in irate tones
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by French Toast on Mon Aug 14th 2006 at 5:08am
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You can't say 'this drink is the best'

Example:

Best vodka is Smirnoff Fire, best beer is Sleeman.

There are categories...
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by FatStrings on Mon Aug 14th 2006 at 5:25am
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i dunno sleeman

but no categories are required when your talkin superior drinks like dos equis, they beat them all
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Jimmi on Mon Aug 14th 2006 at 6:49pm
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I love smirnoff spin.
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Bewbies on Tue Aug 15th 2006 at 5:18am
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brandy, orange coroco, and monster energy drink.

needs a name. any suggestions? SOOOOOOOO GOOD
the players tried to take the field
the marching band refused to yield
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Tue Aug 15th 2006 at 6:35pm
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What if you hate people who hate evil? - - -?
To quote NOFX... "I hate hate haters"
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Naklajat on Tue Aug 15th 2006 at 8:58pm
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brandy, orange coroco, and monster energy drink.
needs a name. any suggestions? SOOOOOOOO GOOD
Monstrous Orange Brandy Energy Booze.

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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Bewbies on Tue Aug 15th 2006 at 9:45pm
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<DIV class=quote>
<DIV class=quotetitle>? quote:</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>Monstrous Orange Brandy Energy Booze.</DIV></DIV>

hmm haha

..i was thinking Mako Brandy. the monster and orange coroco gave it a neat blue color. like a mako shark.

2/5 christian brothers brandy
2/5 monster
1/5 blue curacao mixer.
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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Orpheus on Fri Aug 25th 2006 at 9:49pm
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The only two things in this entire thread worthy of quoting.
Cassius said:
<DIV class=quote>
<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting asterix_vader</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>ehmm... wood.
It's what I have right now.</div></div>
"Howdy my Peruvian ally."</A>


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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by ReNo on Fri Aug 25th 2006 at 10:28pm
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Well worth bumping a thread 10 days dead for that, Orph :razz:
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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Bewbies on Fri Aug 25th 2006 at 10:29pm
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it lives!!
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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Orpheus on Fri Aug 25th 2006 at 10:33pm
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Gods, if you only knew how difficult its been to log online.

.... I realize that some of these threads are old to you, but if you scroll backward, you'll notice its my first entry. It took me a very long time just to look through the pages of this thread, let along copy/paste the two bits I liked best.

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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by parakeet on Sat Aug 26th 2006 at 2:38am
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in response to dr.glass' post
Do you really think that drinking is "evil" because it really is THAT bad, or because many of us are predisposed to that idea? Would it be evil if drinking was thought to be next to godliness? Society defines good and bad. Would saturated fat be bad if people under 21 weren't allowed to buy it
Drinking is not bad.. or even evil. Overdrinking is harmful.... thus is bad. The reason why drinking under 21 is "bad" is because it's against the law.. and only because it's against the law.

if 9/10 people who drove cars killed 5 year olds.. i would blame the 9/10 people who killed 5 year olds... :razz:

(i won't use my religious defense here because this is strictly philosophical discussion , which would be thou shall not judge)

if you hate people , that is bad..
what about good people who have to do something evil to get something good done?
Lord of the rings .. :razz: You aren't perfect and will fall to the evil , and the good will not be done. thus.. that's bad.. XP

^__^ , doc i don't want for this to be like .zip .7z .rar wars, just happy philosophical discussion that we can both learn from.
true good and bad aren't black and white, they are ideas and ideas tent to vary person to person, i am not a drunk in denial (not sure if you know this but firefox tends to react wierd to the coding on the pic and that code tends to end up at the end of every message by one using it gwil)

and your wrong warlok, the best drink would be dos equis or shiners, oh wait, that's an countering it

and nickle *YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW

*read as if yelled at a high rate of spead in irate tones
My point is just because gravity is an idea , invented by this guy named newton .. doesn't mean it couldn't have existed before him. Now duely noted his invention might be total hogwash .. but it could be true , and it would be foolishness for me to totally rule out the possiblity of his theory's validity just because he thought of it.

At last , i say i have no problem with drinking! only with drinking problems ;p
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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Naklajat on Sat Aug 26th 2006 at 2:50am
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i don't want for this to be like .zip .7z .rar wars
That would be a pointless discussion because .7z has already won. It has the best compression of those three and does it's job rather speedy-like.

/me dodges out of the thread while nobody is looking...

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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by French Toast on Sat Aug 26th 2006 at 4:10am
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The reason why drinking under 21 is "bad" is because it's against the law..and only because it's against the law.
I disagree wholeheartedly that this be the deciding factor between good and bad.
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Nickelplate on Sat Aug 26th 2006 at 5:41am
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Well, I can tell you that for Christians, it IS the deciding factor in this case. Christians must "follow the laws of the land" unless it goes against God. So for me: I never drank until after I was 21 unless I was in england where the age was 18...

Right now I'm drinking.

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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by French Toast on Sat Aug 26th 2006 at 5:51am
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I disagree wholeheartedly that religion be the deciding factor between good and bad.
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Jimmi on Sat Aug 26th 2006 at 7:46am
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Look like a penis, if you ask me. :rolleyes:

Its okay to get drunk as long as you dont have a one night stand and lose your virginity before marriage.

PS: s**t, my sex education classes haven't worn off yet :rolleyes: :sad:
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by French Toast on Sat Aug 26th 2006 at 3:43pm
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You're against pre-marital sex?
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Jimmi on Sat Aug 26th 2006 at 3:52pm
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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by French Toast on Sat Aug 26th 2006 at 4:08pm
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You're weird.
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Cassius on Sat Aug 26th 2006 at 6:43pm
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I'm an agnostic, and I think that sex should only happen between people with a sincere emotional connection. Marriage is an arbitrary indicator of this, though at times an inaccurate one.
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Gwil on Sat Aug 26th 2006 at 6:52pm
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(not sure if you know this but firefox tends to react wierd to
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I'll stick it on the personal memo, there's quite a lot needs fixing up. Watch this space..
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by fishy on Sat Aug 26th 2006 at 7:08pm
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<DIV class=quote>
<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting Nickelplate</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>Well, I can tell you that for Christians, it IS the deciding factor in this case. Christians must "follow the laws of the land" unless it goes against God. So for me: I never drank until after I was 21 unless I was in england where the age was 18... </DIV></DIV>

christians live by faith and grace, not by the law. this is what seperates them from the jews, which paul explains in the book of romans.

<DIV class=quote>
<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting Cassius</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>I'm an agnostic, and I think that sex should only happen between people with a sincere emotional connection. Marriage is an arbitrary indicator of this, though at times an inaccurate one.</DIV></DIV>

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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Pvt.Scythe on Sat Aug 26th 2006 at 8:38pm
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J?germeister!!!
I scrolled this thing through and that word somehow struck me... Hmm... Perhaps I need to visit the liquir store next week.
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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by French Toast on Sun Aug 27th 2006 at 12:12am
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I'm an agnostic, and I think that sex should only happen between people with a sincere emotional connection. Marriage is an arbitrary indicator of this, though at times an inaccurate one.
I'm Atheist and believe sex should happen whenever people consentually agree to it. Monogomy goes against every single instinct of every single animal on the planet.
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Orpheus on Sun Aug 27th 2006 at 12:19am
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French Toast said:
I'm Atheist and believe sex should happen whenever people consentually agree to it. Monogomy goes against every single instinct of every single animal on the planet.
Are you certain that your heterosexual? I mean, many gays have been using this sorry excuse for decades.

Thats not to say straight people don't say it too, but hardly ever as a defense for their animal nature.

Its animal instinct to stick your pecker into any warm, available hole. Its humanity that tells us that certain holes are off limits.

Personally, I favor the second part.

I know a few pedophiles who'd wish your viewpoint was the norm. They also claim that the kid not only benefits from the encounter, but consented to it.

Besides, what does atheism have to do with sex anyway? I'm a bit hazy on this point.

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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Gwil on Sun Aug 27th 2006 at 12:33am
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Please don't bring in your views on "gays".

Thanks.
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by fishy on Sun Aug 27th 2006 at 1:02am
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French Toast said:
Monogomy goes against every single instinct of every single animal on the planet.
really? every single instinct of every single animal? awesome....
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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Naklajat on Sun Aug 27th 2006 at 1:14am
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There actually are a handful of animals that practice monogomy... I don't remember which ones... but it was an interesting factoid I remember seeing somewhere. I think one of them might have been penguins. I could be completely wrong though.

It's my personal belief that people should do whatever the hell they want as long as it isn't hurting anyone else. Want to smoke meth until your teeth fall out? Go right ahead, just don't try to raise children! Want to climb the corporate ladder and kiss the ass of someone who makes twice as much as you for half the work just so they'll give you a small bonus so you can give your family material happiness? That's your problem. It takes all kinds of people to make the world work.

...what were we talking about again?

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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Orpheus on Sun Aug 27th 2006 at 1:38am
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<DIV class=quote>
<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting Gwil</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>Please don't bring in your views on "gays".

Thanks.
</DIV></DIV>

Must resist... must.

I'm sorry but "Thanks" just won't suffice this time.

Gwil.... that entire post contained a s**tload of other subject matter. Many in fact.

Please do not impose your views upon me as if they somehow supersede them.

The post wasn't "MY" views, just a comment to establish a parameter for which I wanted clarification of.

Monogamy is not the opposite of our animistic nature. Many animals in fact are much more monogamist than we are.

I would very much appreciate not having my comments reduced to such crude views of homosexuality. At least not when they are posted in a serious context.

[edit] Stupid copy paste.. Notepad sucks for that.

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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Gwil on Sun Aug 27th 2006 at 1:49am
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You blatantly made a subtle sideswipe at homosexuals.

Don't, and don't tell me that i'm wrong.

Thanks.
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by French Toast on Sun Aug 27th 2006 at 1:51am
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I'm Atheist and believe sex should happen whenever people consentually agree to it. Monogomy goes against every single instinct of every single animal on the planet.
Are you certain that your heterosexual? I mean, many gays have been using this sorry excuse for decades.
Thats not to say straight people don't say it too, but hardly ever as a defense for their animal nature.
Its animal instinct to stick your pecker into any warm, available hole. Its humanity that tells us that certain holes are off limits.
Personally, I favor the second part.
I know a few pedophiles who'd wish your viewpoint was the norm. They also claim that the kid not only benefits from the encounter, but consented to it.
Besides, what does atheism have to do with sex anyway? I'm a bit hazy on this point.
Mmmkay.

I'm certain I'm heterosexual. You seem to have completely mistook my post. What I'm saying is that we are animals. The point of sex? To reproduce. The goal of any species is to continue its species. Therefore, it only makes sense that we f**k around.

What part of that makes you think I'm gay? What part of that implies homosexuality? What part makes you think I'm a pedophile? Are you out of your mind?
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Cassius on Sun Aug 27th 2006 at 4:57am
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<DIV class=quote>
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<DIV class=quotetext>I'm Atheist and believe sex should happen whenever people consentually agree to it. Monogomy goes against every single instinct of every single animal on the planet.</DIV></DIV>Sex is the paramount sensation the human mind is capable of. The better part of all human activity aspires to achieve or emulate it. I'm curious - if it's recreation to you, and you don't believe in anything divine, then what is meaningful?

<DIV class=quote>
<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting French Toast</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>The goal of any species is to continue its species.</DIV></DIV>Not much, I see. Nihilism is a defeatism.
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by French Toast on Sun Aug 27th 2006 at 5:18am
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Ah, I guess I fumbled my wording a bit. In my mind sex is definitely for pleasure, I was just saying that marriage and monogomy go against our basic instinct to try and push our species through to another generation.

And would you deny that the goal of a species is to have its species see another day?
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Cassius on Sun Aug 27th 2006 at 5:29am
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I wouldn't deny that all a dog need do in his life is propogate his seed. For a man, it's a different story.
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Naklajat on Sun Aug 27th 2006 at 5:33am
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Posted 2006-08-27 5:33am
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I should genetically engineer a species of... terrestrial dolphin... hell bent on destroying humanity with laser eyes and sound beams that can explode human heads. They would be unable to reproduce so their only goal would be to destroy the species that created them, humans. Then I would post in this thread, "the goal of the killer terrestrial dolphins with laser eyes and sonar beams that can explode your head isn't to continue it's species, it's to destroy ours." Then I would win the thread before being destroyed by terrestrial dolphins with laser eyes and sonar beams that can explode your head.

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Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Kampy on Sun Aug 27th 2006 at 6:09am
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Posted 2006-08-27 6:09am
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this is the funniest, coolest smiley Ive seen in a long time.
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Jimmi on Sun Aug 27th 2006 at 6:25am
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Posted 2006-08-27 6:25am
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I like cheese nuggets.
Re: to love, and be loved Posted by Orpheus on Sun Aug 27th 2006 at 11:05am
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Posted 2006-08-27 11:05am
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Gwil said:
You blatantly made a subtle sideswipe at homosexuals.
(Read this post in its entirety.. Feet belong on the ground, not the mouth, and I have already tasted mine and found them unsavory)

Is this what we are reduced to? The meer mention of homosexuality has become an demarcation for "side swiping?"

Yes, My comment was demeaning, but I did not say anything that some homosexuals do not say about themselves. I admit that what I posted was on the downside of complimentary but still, it is one of the examples given by homosexuals, about homosexuality.

The point is, that post was:
"Anti-Pedophile."
"Anti-Animalstic"
"Anti-consensual" (toward kids)
"Anti-instinctualism"
"Anti-homosexual"
"Pro-Selectiveness"
"Pro-Monogamy"

Yet, you only advised my avoidance of gays...

I would like to clarify however, that my paragraph structure was erroneous. I meant to put,
Its animal instinct to stick your pecker into any warm, available hole. Its humanity that tells us that certain holes are off limits.
below the reference to pedophilia, since for obvious reasons, this sentence doesn't refer to gay lesbians and I consider any homosexuality bad.. I am not discriminative against the two kinds. (men/women) I do however consider it in bad taste to molest children, especially, very small ones.

If my inaccurate placement of that particular sentence is what set you off, I appologize... I admit that was... sideswiping. After sleeping, and re-reading my post... I noticed my.... poor handling of the reply.

The rest of my post stands and I meant it as is.

The best things in life, aren't things.