Warning: Too many direct light styles on a face(?,?,?)

"Too many direct <B style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: red">light</B> <B style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: red">styles</B> on a face"
There are too many <B style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: red">light</B> entities with different names lighting the same surface, the limit is about 5 differently named lights.
?Remove some <B style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: red">light entities and use textured lighting instead
?Use lights with the same name to <B style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: red">light</B> up the same area</B>

Remember how I toped off the largest log file in history? Well, I did it again, this time, it was 43mb big.

I keep getting that damn error, but the problem is, its nothing like in the quote above. In the whole map, I have 5 lights, and 3 light_environments. 3 of the lights are in the stairwell, the 4th one is in the corridor leading to the stairwell on the top floor. The 5th one, is in the room after the corridor inside a vent on the ceiling. That one it a red light, the rest are white. The four white lights each have a different name, the red one, is nameless.

The light_environment, I have 1 outside in the large outdoor area, the second, in the smaller outdoor area, and the third is at the helicopter area. All 3 light_environment are named the same.

As well, my sky isnt blocking for some reason. I can see the helicopter rotor spinning from the large outdoor area. And I can see at times, brush work from the mountain through the sky. I take it this is because of the error as I dont know why else.

But why am I getting this error?

The culprit is quite possibly linked to the 4 whie lights having their own separate names - sometimes as little as 3 lights can set this off.

Also, do you have any custom appearances on these lights? i.e. flickering/fading/etc, even blinking or manually triggered toggles. This is often another culprit.

Try removing the names on the white lights. Also, if you find the correct problem area, you can try playing with the ZHLT fade value on the lights to make them 'smaller.'

Also, consider trying fewer bounces.

Make sure any names on lights are necessary - never give a light a name unless it is specifically triggered by anything. Naming a static light will not only possibly contribute to problems like this, but leave the light in the map as an entity, where unnamed lights are culled in the compile.

Why are the light_environments named, and do you really need 3 different ones?

(Lep's note from the future- texture lights seem to have caused this, see later, but this is the cause for this error...)

um, light_environments are global (unless you use an old compile parameter to prevent them from not being). so basically... if they are all 3 working, you already have at least THREE light styles on every face that's outside. they might be why your sky is screwy as well...

cut it down to one light_environment, and unname all lights that don't need to be named as kfs said... that should do it I would think.

Yeah. I'm pretty sure it's the light_environments. I think I had the same error once when I accidentally cloned one of them thinking it was a regular light.

Ok, I didnt know the light_environment was a global entity. So then I can remove 2 of them. And take out their name.

As for the white lights, they are named because they can be manual triggered via a func_breakable "fusebox"

They dont have custom appearences though.

I'll remove the light_environments and see what happends. I'm at school at the moment and I have an operation afterwards (tooth pulling time :biggrin: ) So I'll let you guys know tomorow, as I wont be at school. I need 3 days rest, docs orders :biggrin:

3 days of rest = 3 days of mapping :cool:

Wild Card said:
As well, my sky isnt blocking for some reason. I can see the helicopter rotor spinning from the large outdoor area. And I can see at times, brush work from the mountain through the sky. I take it this is because of the error as I dont know why else.

But why am I getting this error?

doesn't the game have problems with large or complex func_brushes showing through sky?

i used to think that all func_brushes did, but that was down to my bad/lazy mapping practices.

fishy said:
doesn't the game have problems with large or complex func_brushes showing through sky?

i used to think that all func_brushes did, but that was down to my bad/lazy mapping practices.

If a solid entity is large enough, then it will be rendered from ALL areas of the map (within a certain distance). This will be visible through the sky.

i was going to point that out as well mike..

just because a func is seen from afar, doesn't in itself signify poor mapping, its an engine defect.

Jinx said:
3 days of rest = 3 days of mapping :cool:

Yer damn right. After I do another reformat that is :biggrin:

here's a picture of what I mean:

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Lep! Your thumbs BB code aint working!

Oh well, just click the link to the larger pic.

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Damnit Its not working

Ok, Im still getting the Warning: Too many direct light styles on a face(?,?,?) error (sorry I C&P the title :biggrin: )

I now have one 1 light_environment without a name and 1 light with a name because it is triggered by a func_breakable.

try reducing the brightness of the light triggered by the func_breakable or take it out all together just to see if this is causing the problem. Also looking over the entity report for a map can reveal things that weren't properly deleted (happens to me at least). Maybe you have a light entity somewhere you don't know about.

Getting ur wisdom teeth pulled? No big its actually quite fun when they put you under. But as for your lighting problem, maybe you acidently cloned a light over on top of another light, do an entity report and see how many you actually have. As for the choper blade, there is one thing you can do, and thats place a barely visable func_illusionary right in front of it, that will block it from being renderd by the engine from far away, or you can lower the max vis distance in your map properties.

Good luck with your operation, I REPEAT DO NOT DRINK SUGAR BEVERAGES UNTIL YOUR HOLES IN YOUR HEAD HAVE CLOSED UP. just a little advice :biggrin:

Uh,, Dont knw hy but the erior it if fix now, I only had the sky lght and 1 triggerrrrred light.

Iii try to radd some lghteing laterl

Wild Card said:
Uh,, Dont knw hy but the erior it if fix now, I only had the sky lght and 1 triggerrrrred light.

Iii try to radd some lghteing laterl

scratches buttocks, resists urge to sniff fingers

uhh, WC, why you typin so funny?

looks for stuff under nails

Maybe he had the operation, you know hydocodene (aka:vicodin) does that to you.

soory avout thsi. oOs is pinfull

Wild Card said:
soory avout thsi. oOs is pinfull

OK, i give, but i suggest you avoid the PC till tomorrow.

Yea, I had my wisdom teeth taken out. But yea, I just got home when I was typing. Had a nice nap since.

remember dont drink soda, it'll feel like someones jabing a knife in your gums.

ps sorry if im sounding like im a control freak, but it does hurt bad

lol I've been starving myself all day and plan to keep it that way until tomorow. But at least I gots T3 for the pain.

Wild Card said:
lol I've been starving myself all day and plan to keep it that way until tomorow. But at least I gots T3 for the pain.

Let the good time roll. :biggrin:

She devil :ar15firing: :rocketwhore: Arnold

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Ok, I fixed the error. I had 4 text lights with names and forgot about them.

But my sky is still letting me see brushes behind it. Like at one point, you go outside, take a look. The brushes behind the skybrush are visible from time to time.

(I dont mean the helicopter rotors)

T3 is nothing. I was in the hospital for half my spring break last week for mono and T3 did nothing, even morphine didn't work. It was just pain, pain, pain.

Gorbachev said:
T3 is nothing. I was in the hospital for half my spring break last week for mono and T3 did nothing, even morphine didn't work. It was just pain, pain, pain.

yeah, but I bet you downloaded a lot of pr0n on that fat pipe didn't ya?

You cannot help the sky showing brushes behind itself. You just have to map around it. If it bothers you that much a redesign may be in order.

yea, but other brushes arent shown. For example, you see the rotor, but you dont see the helicopter. Is it because the brushes showing are closer?

Did you really need all those pictures? IMO one would have been sufficient.

I think I've been able to stop the brushes behind the skybrush being drawn, but I forgot how I did it.

Not that I have any experience with all this pain, but remember, you can go 3 minutes without oxygen, 3 days without water, and 3 weeks without food. So I expect you at least be drinking something.

try placing a block of world water between the two areas..
world water blocks everything else, might work :smile:

In english? you mean add a brush with the water texture? or add a func_water brush?

Those screenshots don't seem to be helping me visualize, mostly due to lack of motion. Regardless, are you doing a -full vis? It is more exact, and possibly pertinent for a problem such as this.

I dont know.. lol. Im oblivious as to the compiling process. I just tell it which file to compile, which tools to use, then WadInclude and click compile. But if I remember correctly, full vis and fast vis are both disabled.

me reads up on Orph's tut

HLCC does not allow for a "full" vis wildcard

to get one of those, you need another frontend, or a batch file..

HLCC defaults to "normal"

HLCC will however make you a great batch file, and since you already know HLCC use it to do so.. just add "-full" to the vis command line in the batch file and save.. (you might need to replace "-normal" or "-fast")

I think I know what you mean...

Me goes and checks... after another reformat. (I did something wrong in the Win XP pro install)

By the way, what was the water brush thing you were talking about?

Wild Card said:
I think I know what you mean...

Me goes and checks... after another reformat. (I did something wrong in the Win XP pro install)

By the way, what was the water brush thing you were talking about?

just a thought, world water blocks vis, i was thinking that it might hide your props.. place some between the two points in your map.

we just had a long debate in another thread on world water WC, i do hope you were paying attention in class :heee:

world = not func_

Right