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Karen O.

Re: Karen O. Posted by Skeletor on Sat Apr 3rd 2004 at 1:00am
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Hey, a while back we had a topic about Jet. Just wondering what you all thought about the YYY's, or if you've even heard of them.
Re: Karen O. Posted by Vash on Sat Apr 3rd 2004 at 3:12am
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I hate all kids bands. This includes Yeah, Yeah, Yeahs, That lizzie maguire s**t, and whatever actresses takes a job up in the music biz.

Although the lead singer of the YYY(s) isnt too bad looking I reckon :biggrin: .
Re: Karen O. Posted by Leperous on Sat Apr 3rd 2004 at 6:38am
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Meh, sounds like more of that thrashing/wailing crap really, but don't know, haven't heard many of their songs...
Re: Karen O. Posted by Skeletor on Sat Apr 3rd 2004 at 6:41am
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How are the YYY's a kid's band?
Re: Karen O. Posted by Vash on Sat Apr 3rd 2004 at 7:38am
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Wait...Who were the Yeah Yeah Yeahs' again? I r forget..I think I was confused with some other band in my previous post
Re: Karen O. Posted by Skeletor on Sat Apr 3rd 2004 at 8:03am
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Google 'em. You can play three or so songs of theirs at their site.

http://yeahyeahyeahs.com/

Karen O. is so crazy but definately makes for an interesting singer.
Re: Karen O. Posted by Vash on Sat Apr 3rd 2004 at 8:04am
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Yeah, I was right :biggrin: . They seem kiddy to me, due to the fact that the main star is on Disney... :biggrin:
Re: Karen O. Posted by Monqui on Sat Apr 3rd 2004 at 8:06am
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Maps, No No No, Y-Control, Pin = winners, Tick, Cold Light = Lose, everything else is just OK...
Re: Karen O. Posted by Skeletor on Sat Apr 3rd 2004 at 9:11am
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I <3 TICK!

How could you say that? Well, I guess it isn't THAT great, I'm just mesmorized by her screaming.

But I'd have to agree with all your other choices, especially Y-control. That song rawks!
Re: Karen O. Posted by Skeletor on Sat Apr 3rd 2004 at 9:16am
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Yeah, I was right :biggrin: . They seem kiddy to me, due to the fact that the main star is on Disney... :biggrin:
Wtf? When was she on Disney?
Re: Karen O. Posted by Myrk- on Sat Apr 3rd 2004 at 1:25pm
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Yeah Yeah Yeahs are crap. Good music seems to be lacking nowadays...
Re: Karen O. Posted by Kage_Prototype on Sat Apr 3rd 2004 at 4:25pm
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I quite liked a couple of the songs they released. I can't remember what they were called, but one was quite energectic (and involved claymation in the video), and the other was quite slow and simple, where she actually singed instead of wailed. Though they released one song before both, which seemed to be high-pitched wailing and guitars just for the hell of it. It didn't even touch those other two, so I'm not toally convinced in getting their album in fear that it'll just be the same thing over and over, with only a few good songs.

And what exactly is a kid band? And she was on DIsney? What have you been smoking Vash? :razz:

To be honest, I got sick of all those underproduced garage rock influenced stuff that's coming out recently a while back. I'm getting into a lot of progressive stuff at the moment. Refused's last album (The Shape Of Punk To Come) is amazing; how they managed to blend elements of punk, hardcore, jazz, blues and folk music so well is beyond me. Metallica's "...And Justice For All", Nine Inch Nails' 'The Fragile", Oceansize's "Effloresce", Pink Floyd's "The Wall" and "Dark Side Of The Moon", have all been staple parts of my musical diet for the past few weeks.
Re: Karen O. Posted by Adam Hawkins on Sat Apr 3rd 2004 at 10:20pm
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Not a big fan of 'em. Problem is it's been done so much better by other bands, and the Yeah Yeah Yeah's seem to be more about the image than the music.
Re: Karen O. Posted by scary_jeff on Sat Apr 3rd 2004 at 10:47pm
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I know what you mean by 'kid band' (I think I do anyway) - I would say sum41 is a kid band. It's like bands that kids say 10-14 can like, that aren't crap pop bands, but at the same time they find it hard to genuinely like 'proper' album bands of the genre, because these bands aren't usually so accessable.

I know that when I was younger, it was more 'cool' to like non-pop, but at the same time, it was hard for me to genuinely like these bands, because I either wasn't able to or couldn't be bothered to appreciate the real alternative music. 'kid bands', for want of a better name, provide a way for younger people to break away from the normal poppy crap (which they may genuinely not like), while staying with something they do actually like.
Re: Karen O. Posted by Kage_Prototype on Sat Apr 3rd 2004 at 10:49pm
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Hmm, I wouldn't apply that term to the yeah yeah yeahs. If they were as accessible as Sum 41, they'd be huge by now...
Re: Karen O. Posted by scary_jeff on Sat Apr 3rd 2004 at 10:50pm
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Well I don't recall ever hearing a song by the yeah yeah yeahs, I was just explaining my idea of what a kid band is - no idea if it actually applies to the band in question :smile:
Re: Karen O. Posted by Skeletor on Sat Apr 3rd 2004 at 10:57pm
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I don't think they are a kiddie-band.
Re: Karen O. Posted by scary_jeff on Sat Apr 3rd 2004 at 10:59pm
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Hah, having a parental advisory label only makes them more attractive to people who think they aren't supposed to be allowed to have the album.

reads post below can't disagree with that since I never heard them :smile:
Re: Karen O. Posted by Skeletor on Sat Apr 3rd 2004 at 11:07pm
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I guess I'd have to agree.

Anyway, I don't think the YYY's would appeal too much to young kids.
Re: Karen O. Posted by Monqui on Sat Apr 3rd 2004 at 11:46pm
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Why did they get the explicit lyric tag? I don't remember anything too terrible in it?
Re: Karen O. Posted by Skeletor on Sat Apr 3rd 2004 at 11:49pm
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Me neither, but then again I can't understand half of what she's saying anyway.

EDIT: Most of the songs aren't too bad, but what about "Cold Light"? http://www.lyrics007.com/Yeah%20Yeah%20Yeahs%20Lyrics/Cold%20Light%20Lyrics.html
Re: Karen O. Posted by Crono on Sun Apr 4th 2004 at 2:17am
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I've never listened to the "YeahYeahYeahs", but skimming quickly on Lyric's Cafe, it seems the worst thing they say is s**t, and it's only once.

check it out
Re: Karen O. Posted by Skeletor on Sun Apr 4th 2004 at 2:21am
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THAT SONG RAWKS!

Anyway, look at the link I posted above, I think that's a little more graphic than s**t, even if it isn't swearing.
THAT WEBSITE said:
Cold Light
Hot night
be my heater be my lover
and we could do it to each other
cold light
hotnight
be my heater be my lover
and we could do it to each other
go go go

Ride daddy ride
ride out the tide
ide rather die
then say goodbye
and watch you go
go go go
Re: Karen O. Posted by Crono on Sun Apr 4th 2004 at 2:22am
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Yeah, I know, but parental advisory means language. Otherwise every pop song EVER would need parental advisory, as they are all about screwing, especially from boy bands ... ew.

But that song's lyrics don't deserve a mandatory parental advisory. Also last time I checked, which was a long time ago, the 'artists' had to say whether it needed parental advisory stickers or not, unless there was a massive amount of swearing then the label made it parental advisory.
Re: Karen O. Posted by Yak_Fighter on Sun Apr 4th 2004 at 2:24am
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If they are a band that is going to be widely popular with little kids then having one or two swear words in it will get the explicit label slapped on them... mainly because kids aren't supposed to listen to cussing according to the labels. I've got death metal and punk albums that have swearing and questionable lyrics with no explicit label because no one's either heard of them or no kids are going to want to listen to them. I have two cds from one of the most vulgar punk bands ever, The Dwarves, and they dont have the explicit label.

PS: Sum41 isn't a kids band :rolleyes: . Next you're going to say Offspring is one too...
Re: Karen O. Posted by Crono on Sun Apr 4th 2004 at 2:26am
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Hey, that reminds me of something, Yak, have you heard Offsprings latest album at all? I haven't heard anything from it, but I was surprised to see a parental advisory sticker, I found out why though, looking through lyrics. There's like one song that has f**k like every other word, rather odd for them, to be honest.
Re: Karen O. Posted by Orpheus on Sun Apr 4th 2004 at 2:27am
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Yak_Fighter said:
PS: Sum41 isn't a kids band :rolleyes: . Next you're going to say Offspring is one too...
nah, but the peanuts are :heee:

/runs
Re: Karen O. Posted by Yak_Fighter on Sun Apr 4th 2004 at 2:33am
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Hey, that reminds me of something, Yak, have you heard Offsprings latest album at all? I haven't heard anything from it, but I was surprised to see a parental advisory sticker, I found out why though, looking through lyrics. There's like one song that has f**k like every other word, rather odd for them, to be honest.
Heh, not really. I have that CD and I haven't actually listened to it very carefully, but one friend of mine who is a diehard Offspring fan says it is a throwback to their earlier albums (Ignition, Smash) and likes it a lot. I know the song you're talking about, Da Hui, and the swearing is not that odd, considering songs like Session, LAPD, Kill the President, Bad Habit, Cool to Hate, Feelings, DUI, Me and My Old Lady...they aren't a kids band :biggrin:
Re: Karen O. Posted by Crono on Sun Apr 4th 2004 at 2:58am
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No no, I'm well aware of their swearing, however it never seemed like just blaintant swearing.

Throw back eh?? That's awesome! I was rather 'disapointed' with their last two albums, I mean, they're alright, but, session and smash are great (I personally like session more). However, I just don't like their first album that much to be honest, like, it's got good songs on it, but the album as a whole doesn't stand close to anything they did on the two albums right after it.

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I'll have to find it somewhere then. I was rather hesitance to purchase it taking that my musical taste has wondered into other areas, but I still hold a place in my heart (and cd book for that matter) for The Offspring.
Re: Karen O. Posted by Leperous on Sun Apr 4th 2004 at 5:01am
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New Offspring album, eh? Is it more of him just shouting loudly and flatly over a bunch of power chords? :runs:
Re: Karen O. Posted by Crono on Sun Apr 4th 2004 at 7:33am
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Hey there are bands who're talented that only play power chords. (To be honest, even though I like most of the Offsprings stuff, they're not really great musicians.)

Tool is a bad who play's mostly nothing but power chords, and in drop D, and they're awesome, so.
Re: Karen O. Posted by Kage_Prototype on Sun Apr 4th 2004 at 11:48am
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Tool and The Offspring may both play mostly power chords, but there's a large difference between them; The Offspring are out to make catchy pop-punk anthems, while Tool are more orchestral and progressive in their musical style. Not to mention Maynard James Keenan is possibly the greatest vocalist this side of Christian Scabbia.
Re: Karen O. Posted by scary_jeff on Sun Apr 4th 2004 at 12:59pm
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Just because it's a kids band, doesn't mean it's only for kids, it means it's for kids as well as for everyone else. A band like tool aren't going to appeal to kids. Sum 41 appeals to kids and everyone else.
Re: Karen O. Posted by Yak_Fighter on Sun Apr 4th 2004 at 5:28pm
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Bah! Offspring is not pop-punk. We aren't talking about Good Charlotte, New Found Glory, All-American Rejects, Simple Plan, or any of that crap... :razz:
Re: Karen O. Posted by Forceflow on Sun Apr 4th 2004 at 6:06pm
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Good Charlotte ... beeeeeh :leper:
Re: Karen O. Posted by Crono on Sun Apr 4th 2004 at 7:07pm
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The Offspring are out to make catchy pop-punk anthems
...That's why they're always on the radio ... oh wait :razz: .

The songs they release off their albums are like the worst songs they've ever made, it's so weird. The other stuff in the albums are usually nothing like the singles they release.

Also, I know The Offspring and Tool are different bands with different styles ... I never said they were the same, or even close, I mentioned that they both play mostly power chords. And yes, I'm well aware that Tool is a much better band then The Offspring :lol:
Re: Karen O. Posted by scary_jeff on Sun Apr 4th 2004 at 7:39pm
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The songs they release off their albums are like the worst songs they've ever made, it's so weird. The other stuff in the albums are usually nothing like the singles they release.
It's not wierd. People who buy the singles aren't the same people who buy the albums. The single releases are more catchy, as single buyers buy catchy songs... If they released the tracks that the albums buyers thought were best as singles, nobody would buy it.
Re: Karen O. Posted by Vash on Sun Apr 4th 2004 at 11:39pm
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Offspring rocks you.
Re: Karen O. Posted by Skeletor on Mon Apr 5th 2004 at 12:12am
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I never buy singles.

NEVAR!!!!!!!
Re: Karen O. Posted by ReNo on Mon Apr 5th 2004 at 12:14am
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Nobody seems to mate, its just young kids that hear and like a song, and can only afford a single with their pocket money..
Re: Karen O. Posted by Orpheus on Mon Apr 5th 2004 at 12:36am
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Vash said:
Offspring rocks you.
hmmm, the process of creating offspring rocks for sure.

/scuttles away
Re: Karen O. Posted by Skeletor on Mon Apr 5th 2004 at 12:51am
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ReNo said:
Nobody seems to mate, its just young kids that hear and like a song, and can only afford a single with their pocket money..
I think singles are outdated now, ESPECIALLY because of mp3's and p2p and crap like that. Why by a single for half the price of the album when you can download it for free? And you should have no trouble finding a single because they are usually popular. The only downside is if you wannt that extra stuff they put on there like remixes and bonuses.
Re: Karen O. Posted by Kage_Prototype on Mon Apr 5th 2004 at 9:38am
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It's not as easy as it used to be to download the new popular songs, because fakes are circulated around the p2p networks. Also, if it's a band that only has a tiny fanbase, you're not really going to get mp3s unless they give them away. It's not always as simple as it used to be. Of course, what's wrong with just getting the album? They don't cost much.
Re: Karen O. Posted by Crono on Mon Apr 5th 2004 at 5:23pm
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Of course, what's wrong with just getting the album? They don't cost much.
...Dude, I don't know where you live, but that's not true everywhere.

Here, CDs cost more then DVDs in some instances and they're usually a dollar off, new that is. However, used the CDs are the same price as used DVDs ... I don't want to pay $18-25 dollars for a CD, when for the same amount of money I could get something closer to being worth it.
Re: Karen O. Posted by Kage_Prototype on Mon Apr 5th 2004 at 6:35pm
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Really, I would never buy a CD that goes over ?12, as that would just be a rip off (unless of course if it is a double-album, in which ?20 is the limit, or unless I really wanted it). http://www.play.com do CDs for ?8-9, with free delivery, which is a great deal compared to what I'm used to. And, they sometimes have the more obscure artists, so it isn't just limited to the chart toppers. I can very easily afford a couple of CDs a month (maybe one or two more if I feel like treating myself) where I live, which is more than enough for me. DVDs tend to cost around ?15-20 over here, so the idea of CDs costing the same as DVDs bewilders me somewhat.
Re: Karen O. Posted by SuperCrazy on Mon Apr 5th 2004 at 7:34pm
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Bah! Offspring is not pop-punk. We aren't talking about Good Charlotte, New Found Glory, All-American Rejects, Simple Plan, or any of that crap... :razz:
You can't just say they're not pop-punk. I would place them in that category along with the other bands you mentioned, but you would not. It's subjective.
Re: Karen O. Posted by Kage_Prototype on Mon Apr 5th 2004 at 7:49pm
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The Offspring (i.e. now, in 2004) are undeniably pop-punk. They're just good pop-punk. Not all pop-punk is crap. :razz:
Re: Karen O. Posted by Finger on Mon Apr 5th 2004 at 10:28pm
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"so the idea of CDs costing the same as DVDs bewilders me somewhat. "

Think of the amount of entertainment you get from a good CD, compared to a good movie. Maybe I am abnormal, but I just can't watch a movie more than a few times, no matter how great it is. Music on the otherhand, I can listen to for decades.
Re: Karen O. Posted by Skeletor on Mon Apr 5th 2004 at 10:39pm
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Do they raelly cost that much in Oregon? That's hard to believe. Down here, they've lowered almost all CD's down to around $10. At Best Buy they have plent for $6 even. I think they bare trying to compete with p2p and maybe even iMusic, or at least generate the same popularity? I dont know.
Re: Karen O. Posted by Orpheus on Mon Apr 5th 2004 at 10:40pm
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Finger said:
Maybe I am abnormal, but I just can't watch a movie more than a few times, no matter how great it is. Music on the otherhand, I can listen to for decades.
i guess, i should not mention, that i watch "Men in Black" almost every week.. i call it men in black sunday around here :smile:

and i have seen "Dinosaur" and "Zeus and Roxanne" about 100 times, thanx to my grandson.. and i might add, i enjoy them each viewing :biggrin:

my music? 70's and 80's two decades that IMO will never be surpassed in quality.