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                        Looks okay to me. My JavaScript is turned off and the site works anyways. I like that.
You could work on the code a bit. Try using css. makes a few things much more easy.
And don't be worried about your spelling or grammar. Nobody's perfect.
Although: You need to consider: I'm not a webdesign pro - so my oppinion might not be as appropriate as another one.
                                            
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                        Re: webby i made
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                        Thanks alot for these comment, they are very usefull, i'm reading up on css this very moment, but as i'm not a html guru or anything thise might take some time to learn.
I'm looking for a suitable font for the main content area ( maybe Tahoma ) and i'll defenatly change the white lines to a darker colour.
thanks :smile:
                                            
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                        Re: webby i made
                        Posted by Junkyard God on 
    Sun Sep 4th 2005 at 9:08pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
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                        hmmz i think it would be good to make the text etc. work everywhere, i'll go see if verdana is nice :smile: i'll try to get an updated webby out tomorrow :wink:
                                            
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                        Re: webby i made
                        Posted by Junkyard God on 
    Sun Sep 4th 2005 at 9:26pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
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                        i just updated it , don't know if you caught the updated one or not lol, it's updated now though :smile:
                                            
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                        Re: webby i made
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    Sun Sep 4th 2005 at 9:57pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
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                        aah yes, that's freewebs beeing bleh again, i'll fix it tomorrow, bit tired now hehe
                                            
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                        Re: webby i made
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    Sun Sep 4th 2005 at 10:16pm
                     
                    
                        
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                        Yeah, it looks like the way you have it set up, it would work best by putting the "content" area in an iframe. I suggest an iframe, because it's easier to use and it lays ontop of everything instead of cutting up the page.
Colors are hideous. Sorry.
Try to make it fit on the screen all at once for a certain resolution (something like 1024 x 768) Easy way to do that is to make that banner smaller. Maximize the content area as much as possible ... it's the reason people are at the site.
With fonts, you can define many, many, many fonts. It's good to choose a primary and secondary windows font, then choose a Macintosh and other OS font to put in the list, so everyone can view the page.
Just use google to find lists with pictures of fonts
Define as much as you can in an external CSS file.
Don't use needless javascript.
All in all, it wouldn't take too long to make the site this way. (Less then an hour if you know what you're doing)
                                            
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                        Re: webby i made
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    Sun Sep 4th 2005 at 10:55pm
                     
                    
                        
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                        major change now on colors
i think it's better, i like red and black, suits my own style so i'm keeping these colours i think.
tell me what you think still though :smile:
                                            
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                        Re: webby i made
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                        Use more then 2 colors. The text really should be the only thing that color. Whatever that color may be.
Look at this site, for example, the text is pretty much the only thing that's white. The background is pretty much the only thing that's black. And everything else has a separate designated color. It gives a nice composition and it very pleasing to the eye. Your site, isn't, no offense or anything. You need more variation and seperation. I'm not saying replace the colors that or there, nor did I mean that before, you just need to add to it.
Anyway, keep working on it.
                                            
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                        Re: webby i made
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                        might look into investing in some white text., but i like the dark style so  maybe i'll keep it like this.
Anyone know how to set up 'relative sizes' Crapceeper recommended them to me as that would make it work in more resolutions, that would be pretty neat :smile:
                                            
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                        Re: webby i made
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    Mon Sep 5th 2005 at 9:29am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        That's a style sheet thing (CSS). You can't do it with images, unless you make different images for each resolution, check the viewers resolution and load the proper image (bad idea, it's slow). Other then that, when using div tags or span tags, including many other things like iframes, you can assign classes (look it up) it allows you to define many things about the "object". One of which is width, height, and position. You can use percentages to make it resolution independant, but be warned, IE is a dick when using this aspect, it doesn't deal with it properly in my experiences. Mozilla does a nice job though. In any case, mess around with it!
Text size doesn't matter, it will be sized by the browser unless you give a specific value, but you're using tags like "strong" to make things larger, which is relative to the default size.
                                            
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                        Re: webby i made
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                        hmmmz, i think i might jsut leave it this way then, as it seems like hard work just ofr people who crank up their res extremely high as most people jsut have it on 1024x768 anyways :wink:
                                            
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                        Re: webby i made
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                        changing the home button to point at an html page (not htm) should fix your page not found error.
                                            
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                        Re: webby i made
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                        hmmz, i'll try that, the rest points to htm and does work odly though, but i'll give it a scoot :smile:
i also patched up the banner a bit ,the white glow was out of place so i made it red with black text witch i gave a slight blur to make it looks like the ligth was comming from no where :razz: hope you likey
                                            
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                        Re: webby i made
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                        There's nothing "oddly" about it :smile:
The file extension matters. There's a difference between index.html and index.htm, for example. Choose one extension and stick with it.
Don't change the link ... change the file name!
Those colors still make me want to vomit. :biggrin:
                                            
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                        Re: webby i made
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<DIV class=quotetext>Use more then 2 colors. The text really should be the only thing that color. Whatever that color may be. 
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This I disagree with. I think the text should be kept grey our white or somthing. I hate reading colored text!
                                            
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                        Re: webby i made
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                        um ... I didn't suggest making the text some random flusha color or something. I said keep it unique, that's all.
I think his text shouldn't be red. Yellow, would be easier to read, but white would look better.
As long as there is a good contrast (which isn't present right now), there shouldn't be any "hatred" of the color. Whatever makes it easiest to read, right?
                                            
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                        Re: webby i made
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                        i was thinking of sticking an iFrame on the divs if i needed a longer page, that was i can just make it have a scroll bar.
I've chosen to keep it just for 1024x768 resolution as that's what most people use, i've only come across one person so fat who doesn't use that.
                                            
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                        Re: webby i made
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                        Something to remember about CSS is it allows you to "create" tag names.
Such as, if you defined, in your style area, a class with the name "body" everything within the body tag would have that text's format. Very handy so you don't have to label things more then once.
If you've ever used the < p > tag, this is exactly what you're doing.
Just check the w3 site(s) it'll tell you everything you need to know, what to use, how to use it, and when you should use it.
                                            
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                        Re: webby i made
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                        I'd suggest using tables and split the background image so it loads a bit better. Also set a background colour for the site, and don't use too much red.
                                            
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                        Re: webby i made
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                        Hmm, I didn't look at the background image before ... don't do that!
Just make the background the stripped pattern, in a very small image, it will tile it's self.
The only image on the site other then that should be your logo header bar thing.
Those boxes can be made using the div or span tags ... you can color fill with CSS and add different color borders. Then in each div/span, you can position the text or whatever anyway you like and position the entire div/span anywhere on the page.
Honestly, there's no need to use tables though, there are much better methods.
The colors still need work too.
                                            
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